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[SSRP] Anna's Demote Appeal.. 7 years 3 months ago #666097

Part VII Activity over the week

Should be updated daily

Part VI For those who attent the meeting this week
I don't know whether or not the entire inactivity reason did come along 100% correct. Someone seemed to believe that I was inactive thanks to personal issues for the entirety of my Inactivity [8 or 10 weeks] But this wasn't the case.
I was inactive for the first [5 - 7] weeks due to myself not wanting to play at the time, after which I did get a week of activity like normal.

After I had that last week of good activity, that is when the personal issue arrived. The personal issue caused me to go inactive and then I started playing games instead of SSRP. Why did I play games? because I didn't want to be an emotional wreck the moment she was about to leave us. So that I was able to get my activity back and I was able to help my dad with the things my mom used to help him with.

The issues have now been solved, and I did improve my activity a bit from nothing last week. I know it wasn't much but it was an improvement at the very least. I know I've had many chances in the past, but I had 0 after the issue was finally resolved, I know it's still my own fault, but I'd rather have one more chance now that everything is sorted out.

I'm sure I won't dissapoint you guys again, because if I was planning to stay inactive I wouldn't have bothered to write this appeal.

If you want to talk to me through steam feel free to do so, I'd rather explain my side in private where you can ask questions back.



Name - What is your in-game name?
|Z| Anna & |Z| Akemi

STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID?
STEAM_0:0:197988528
STEAM_0:1:37789165

Staff Members Name - Who demoted you?
SSRP Lead Team

Warning Reason - What was the reason for the demotion?
The reason was Inactivity

Server - Which server did this occur on?
SSRP [S1,S2,S3]

Story/Situation - What happened?
Well what happened... haha that's quite a story. I'll spread it into parts to make it more readable.

Part I before personal issues.
This part of the story is what happened before the entire personal issue thing.
It was during this weeks I was indeed inactive for quite a while, I didn't really feel like joining SSRP too much and I got caught up in other games. This was entirely my fault and if I was demoted during this period I'd fully understand it and I'd accept it and start all over. Why was I inactive during this time? I had no reason, and this was the period that gave me the many warnings which caused my demotion last week.

Yeah, I had no reason to be inactive at the time, I was inactive for no real reason and I got warnings for it. How I solved it? I improved, I played on the server once more, getting decent to good activity whilst playing actively on the server and that seemed to solve the issue. Then I decided, "this is easy, I can simply keep this up and no more issues will come... I'll keep my rank and be allowed to keep helping the people like I used to."

Only then the personal issues started coming...

Part II during personal issues.
So yeah, I might as well tell everyone what they were about. The issue was that a family member who has cared for me my entire life, someone who raised me from a small little baby into the girl I am today. This person was threatening to leave us both (me and my dad) behind. You can guess who it was now, can't you? yep, it was my mom.

She and my dad had fought for quite some time, and this issue was the reason I went inactive and stayed away from Zarp.
I did not want to put myself through too much stress, so I could keep myself calm and I could support my dad once she left instead of being a total emotional wreck.

I did play other games during this time. Why? So I could keep my mind off the entire issue, I knew she was going to leave one day, and I didn't know when. I was insecure of the situation during this time.

Luckily I told the community team about it, they knew about this issue and they knew what it was so being inactive during that time was at least excused.

Paramontana came to me, asking me when I was about to be back, in the final week of these issues. However, the morning after I told him that, she left. I explained to para what happened, I told him she left us behind. And I asked him for a little bit more time to recover from this, so I could be there for my dad, after which I would return to SSRP.

Later the next day, she had a choice. Either, come back, or stay away forever. She decided to come back and to stay with us. So after that, I started playing again. Even though it was just a little bit.

I heard that I had one more week, and I guess I took this the wrong way, I thought that I had one more week to remain inactive after which I had to start playing again, but obviously, this wasn't the case. Either way, I did do some stuff, I did remove the warnings once requested by Admins such as EiPUS and I did deal with some other stuff which was mainly questions.

Part III after personal issues.
Now. Last week, This was the first week which I had a "normal" week again. This time I, in fact, DID play on the server, and I did, in fact, do my duty. Such as, keeping my eye on staff, Removing warnings upon request, Telling staff to do F1's, and answer questions for users either over TS or within the game.

Yes, my activity wasn't much last week, I agree on that. But It was still an improvement of what It used to be, and I was in fact actively playing/doing my job during the moments I was online. Instead of staying AFK for 5 hours straight, only doing something when asked to on steam. Because if that's the way to get activity on SSRP then everyone can do it without a problem.

And as far as I know, people know I am someone who improves in steps, I don't scale a mountain at once, I do it in steps. I will be active this week, just as I would've been if I still had my rank, only this week I am unable to help people. Not even being able to help people out with the F1's.

Part IV Why am I appealing?
I'm appealing because I do kinda still like SSRP, I don't think I'm ready to let go of it just now.
People have contacted me during the week, (I won't name names) they were both sad about me being demoted because I was still a good staff member. And because they DID in, fact, know that I did still remove warnings and alike.The only reason why you guys don't know about me doing so is that the server doesn't log punishment removals.

Yes, my activity was low, and yes I agree with it. But I don't think you should instantly demote me (not all the way at least) because I showed only a small amount of improvement because the week after it would only have been better. Every tiny bit of improvement is at least still some improvement, and because I am someone who improves stuff slowly this wasn't really completely my fault.

Yes, I could've gotten more activity and I should've gotten more, and I've played other games sure, but at least I've still done my job in that week, even though you guys didn't see all of it. I'll play as much as I normally would during the week this week, and then the choice is left to everyone within the lead team, to either...

Accept the appeal and allow me to do my job once more actively.
Or.. deny the appeal and they'll have to take over the share of work I used to do.

Part V Ending words.
I've gotten many official warnings, and I know this to be true. I did get many of them due to my own fault and I have been punished for it by official warnings, only the thing that troubles me most about it is that the personal issues I've been having are the cause of my demotion, I know and I get it from your guys perspective, but I'd like to just ask you guys to allow me to at least help out the server like I used to, if I am going to be inactive again after appealing this I wouldn't have bothered making this appeal in the first place. So I'll ask for that at least.

I'm not appealing for the badge, not for myself, I'm appealing because I want to help the server.
Because I want to help the staff members by doing stuff only HeadAdmins can do.

Extra Information - Anything you would find relevant to your demotion?
I would like to inform the lead team of the things I did do during last week, as suggested by Tyler
★ I did remove warnings during the week.
★ I did remove warnings during my inactivity week.
★ I did answer questions from users over the forums, in game and TeamSpeak.
★ I DID deal with reports on the forums, either during my inactivity week or the week, this stuff should've been solved.
★ I did deal with an issue together with Coutinroy where a community manager gave a demoted admin the admin rank instead of the moderator rank they should've gotten after making a joke. We did put his rank back to moderator which it should've been.
★ If I instead was demoted to Admin or Moderator I'd still have done some F1's which at the moment I still can't even do. I'll instead try to report rule breakers, answer questions from users and help admins in their F1's.

To make stuff easier to check, I'll play with just Akemi's account for this week.
Akemi-Server 1 (It did not track my 1½hrs today :c I'll play some more.)
Akemi-Server 2
Akemi-Server 3

Long-Story-Short sentences
★ "If I wanted to stay inactive, I would not have bothered writing this appeal."
★ "If logs were rechecked, you could see me interacting with users, and joining and leaving sometimes for like a few minutes, in which I was removing a warn or punishment on request."
★ "People clearly seem to think I was doing a great job... because otherwise, they would not have been so upset with me getting demoted, nor asked me to appeal it."
★ "All I want is to help the people of SSRP, otherwise why would I write this appeal?"

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[SSRP] Anna's Demote Appeal.. 7 years 3 months ago #666098

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[SSRP] Anna's Demote Appeal.. 7 years 3 months ago #666099

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[SSRP] Anna's Demote Appeal.. 7 years 3 months ago #666101

I have read this in advance as you allowed me to proof read it,
I think they should give you at the very least 1 week to show the improvement that you can give and decide afterwards, if they still think its not enough then at the very least you should be given the admin rank instead of user as you did do your job and like helping out as a staff member.
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[SSRP] Anna's Demote Appeal.. 7 years 3 months ago #666103

I believe that at the very most, it should have only been a demotion to Admin or Super Admin, in order to make you start to realise that it was becoming an issue, and, if it were to Admin, then they would be able to see that you are still doing a lot through doing F1s.

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That Lenny face proves you are trolling....

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A joke or naa?
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That Lenny face proves you are trolling....

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A joke or naa?

They'll discuss it in the Lead Team meeting on Saturday, so yeah, he's joking.
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[SSRP] Anna's Demote Appeal.. 7 years 3 months ago #666119

Anna wrote:
Well what happened... haha that's quite a story.


It really wasn't that funny, but let's see.

Anna wrote:
I didn't really feel like joining SSRP too much and I got caught up in other games.


This was a big frustration for us, you seemed to blow off SSRP and then at the same time had almost a hundred hours on other games in the past two weeks that could have been spent on SSRP, but you chose not to.

Anna wrote:
This was the first week which I had a "normal" week again. This time I, in fact, DID play on the server, and I did, in fact, do my duty.


We looked through all of the logs and seemingly didn't find any trace of you really doing your job of what is expected with this role.

Anna wrote:
Yes, my activity wasn't much last week, I agree on that. But It was still an improvement of what It used to be.
Anna wrote:
And as far as I know, people know I am someone who improves in steps, I don't scale a mountain at once, I do it in steps.

It was still little to no work on your part, the head admin roll unfortunately isn't that easily comparable to a staircase like you're trying to make it seem with the whole "Taking 1 step at a time to improve". We gave you multiple official warnings, but you still had done little to none with the position you were promoted to even during this week you were back to a certain extent.

Anna wrote:
I'm appealing because I do kinda still like SSRP,


You only "kinda still like" the server? From the way you're wording it, it sounds like your interest is hanging on by a thread for the server, and your activity honestly reflects that.

Anna wrote:
Yes, my activity was low, and yes I agree with it. But I don't think you should instantly demote me


After the multiple official warnings, weeks of inactivity proceeding each one, this definitely was not an instant demotion. Your activity was low, the work you put in reflected it, what would the point of demoting you to Moderator or Administrator be if this sort of behavior had been continuous?

Anna wrote:
because I am someone who improves stuff slowly this wasn't really completely my fault.

We gave you so many chances, 10 to 11 weeks at the most, we are there to help you to an extent, but this was just completely crossing the line and at the end of the day we had to take action.

At the end of the day, you were given multiple official warnings, countless weeks to work with the issues and hopefully come out on top of them with improved activity and getting back to helping out the servers - but we saw little to nothing from you at the end of the day. You were a great staff member Akemi, but during these past 10 weeks it's felt you've only drifted away from the team, lost interest playing other steam games, and at the end of the day we had to take action. This demote appeal is not fair to any of us and only selfish.
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But she was the only staff member you could reach out to to get on the server. Every time i messaged other leadteam i was just straight ignored even after several times.
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But she was the only staff member you could reach out to to get on the server. Every time i messaged other leadteam i was just straight ignored even after several times.

Very important and good point.
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I was almost in shock when I saw her online today without her rank.
However if she was inactive it would have been better for her to make an inactivity post.
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But she was the only staff member you could reach out to to get on the server. Every time i messaged other leadteam i was just straight ignored even after several times.

they always responded when needed, something which most lead-team members lack, especially you morgan, this is a big flaw in you and yet all you do is point out the flaws of others, don't call others imperfect if you yourself aren't perfect
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You can hardly call someone "selfish" for appealing a demotion. It is perfectly fair for her to appeal the demotion if she believes it to be invalid, and it is more than fair for her to state her own opinions on it (and for you to state your opinions too of course). She is appealing the demotion because she wants just this one last chance to show that she can improve and do something to help.
Some of the points you have raised do seem to be a little bit like they are nitpicking in certain areas.
She has stated that she was starting to improve when she was demoted, I don't know what goes on all the time within the Lead Team, but if she had been starting to improve and do what is expected of her again, then you could at least try to see it from her perspective that, even in a tough situation in her life, she was trying to do something and do her job still as a Head Admin, which does show a lot more dedication on her part.

All in all, I feel you are focusing on the negatives too much, and the one being unfair here is you. Akemi & Anna have done a lot for the server in what I have seen, and for her to have even been trying to keep on top of things with what was going on shows a lot of dedication, even if there is less turnout in terms of the work done.

Many times during her period of inactivity I attempted to contact Lead Team members multiple times about various issues on the server. You replied once (although I tend to contact you less than others, due to timezones), Tyler replied once. Whenever I have messaged Akemi / Anna about something, I have always received a response.
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Morgan wrote:
Anna wrote:
Well what happened... haha that's quite a story.


It really wasn't that funny, but let's see.

Have you heard of "Making light of a situation", something we do, when we don't have the strength to cope with something.

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I did have many moments of where i sent Anna stuff for forums and nothing got done, however she atleast did not lie to me involving ssrp, like i recently had with a SSRP HA.

And as of a state of Doing their job, idk if anna was or not, however what i can say, is so far everytime i played on S2, when leadteam was on, NO staff member done their job, with my own F1 being in the mix for upto 3 hours, while the staff online only dealt with something WHEN it effected them selfs.

Also i would not say making an APPEAL on something they believe is wrong, or something that could have been different, Selfish.
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