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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663112

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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663113

Lewis_is_java wrote:
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In Dutch "Spook" means ghost, so if I start talking in Dutch and casually mention a ghost movie I'm suddenly racist????

Also, "Spook" is sometimes also an actual name people have. Are they suddenly racist for having parents that gave them their name?
Keep in mind that this is not a Dutch speaking community and that its an English one.

And keep in mind, the original english language, the original place of the english language, has NOT ever had that word as a Racial slur.
the word "Spook" in the english language, is todo with a ghost/scare. and that dates to a very long time ago, which is still it's definition today, AND even in the English dictionary is listed with that, NOT a definition, that simulated from america.
If we're taking that argument wouldn't that make a vast majority of very common racial slurs allowed then?
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The N word was never in the original english language and had a racially offensive definition formed over a time I believe.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663114

SoraJS wrote:
Lewis_is_java wrote:
SoraJS wrote:
Anon_Gaming wrote:
AA RFLeX wrote:
Raeker wrote:
In Dutch "Spook" means ghost, so if I start talking in Dutch and casually mention a ghost movie I'm suddenly racist????

Also, "Spook" is sometimes also an actual name people have. Are they suddenly racist for having parents that gave them their name?
Keep in mind that this is not a Dutch speaking community and that its an English one.

And keep in mind, the original english language, the original place of the english language, has NOT ever had that word as a Racial slur.
the word "Spook" in the english language, is todo with a ghost/scare. and that dates to a very long time ago, which is still it's definition today, AND even in the English dictionary is listed with that, NOT a definition, that simulated from america.
If we're taking that argument wouldn't that make a vast majority of very common racial slurs allowed then?
Name one
The N word was never in the original English language and had a racially offensive definition formed over a time.
Thanks to *insert-reason-here* this word is globally considered racist. (at least in the majority of countries)
therefore this won't be allowed. And because there's no way not to use this word in a racial way.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663115

SoraJS wrote:
Lewis_is_java wrote:
SoraJS wrote:
Anon_Gaming wrote:
AA RFLeX wrote:
Raeker wrote:
In Dutch "Spook" means ghost, so if I start talking in Dutch and casually mention a ghost movie I'm suddenly racist????

Also, "Spook" is sometimes also an actual name people have. Are they suddenly racist for having parents that gave them their name?
Keep in mind that this is not a Dutch speaking community and that its an English one.

And keep in mind, the original english language, the original place of the english language, has NOT ever had that word as a Racial slur.
the word "Spook" in the english language, is todo with a ghost/scare. and that dates to a very long time ago, which is still it's definition today, AND even in the English dictionary is listed with that, NOT a definition, that simulated from america.
If we're taking that argument wouldn't that make a vast majority of very common racial slurs allowed then?
Name one
The N word was never in the original english language and had a racially offensive definition formed over a time I believe.

Hey fren, come here, lean in real close, I'll tell you something that you may not know

hello there was never one definitive English language, new words were introduced a lot. the difference is that the n-word is specifically racist but spook has a less recent, more widely known definition
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663116

SoraJS wrote:
Lewis_is_java wrote:
SoraJS wrote:
Anon_Gaming wrote:
AA RFLeX wrote:
Raeker wrote:
In Dutch "Spook" means ghost, so if I start talking in Dutch and casually mention a ghost movie I'm suddenly racist????

Also, "Spook" is sometimes also an actual name people have. Are they suddenly racist for having parents that gave them their name?
Keep in mind that this is not a Dutch speaking community and that its an English one.

And keep in mind, the original english language, the original place of the english language, has NOT ever had that word as a Racial slur.
the word "Spook" in the english language, is todo with a ghost/scare. and that dates to a very long time ago, which is still it's definition today, AND even in the English dictionary is listed with that, NOT a definition, that simulated from america.
If we're taking that argument wouldn't that make a vast majority of very common racial slurs allowed then?
Name one
The N word was never in the original english language and had a racially offensive definition formed over a time I believe.
You "believe"
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663118

Just to clear up any confusion, the user is not currently banned. He is appealing his name change not his ban because it does not exist.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663119

SoraJS wrote:
Lewis_is_java wrote:
SoraJS wrote:
Anon_Gaming wrote:
AA RFLeX wrote:
Raeker wrote:
In Dutch "Spook" means ghost, so if I start talking in Dutch and casually mention a ghost movie I'm suddenly racist????

Also, "Spook" is sometimes also an actual name people have. Are they suddenly racist for having parents that gave them their name?
Keep in mind that this is not a Dutch speaking community and that its an English one.

And keep in mind, the original english language, the original place of the english language, has NOT ever had that word as a Racial slur.
the word "Spook" in the english language, is todo with a ghost/scare. and that dates to a very long time ago, which is still it's definition today, AND even in the English dictionary is listed with that, NOT a definition, that simulated from america.
If we're taking that argument wouldn't that make a vast majority of very common racial slurs allowed then?
Name one
The N word was never in the original english language and had a racially offensive definition formed over a time I believe.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663120

Roy Harper wrote:
Just to clear up any confusion, the user is not currently banned. He is appealing his name change not his ban because it does not exist.
everyone was aware I'm pretty sure... Thanks anyway.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663123

You obviously don't mean the name in it's racial context so why should it be changed? This is really stupid and the arguments against it are just pathetic. Hope it gets resolved soon.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663125

Morgan also denied my refund request of my signatures even though technically it was a server sided issue seen as the senior staff did not tell me to change my name until a few months after.

Also decided to join our gang channel and banned To Be Continued and myself.
<20:54:12> You were banned for 1 day from the server by "Morgan" (Disrespect)
<20:08:38> "`To Be Continued" was banned for 1 day from the server by "Morgan" (Disrespect)

You've pissed a lot of people off, including myself.
Also wouldn't remove the ban after I did something for out of kindness right after you banned me and then you were ignorant and ignored my steam message.(then saw you in the event 40mins later).

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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663128

Akemi wrote:
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Just to clear up any confusion, the user is not currently banned. He is appealing his name change not his ban because it does not exist.
everyone was aware I'm pretty sure... Thanks anyway.

Wrong - there are people, including me, who thought he was banned for it.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663129

Clarky wrote:
You obviously don't mean the name in it's racial context so why should it be changed? This is really stupid and the arguments against it are just pathetic. Hope it gets resolved soon.

If we make that argument here, a community wide statement needs to be made because clearly we cant have things two ways. Suddenly the n-word being used in popular songs and music videos is racist, but then those same people saying that make the argument you're using right now. It just seems to be a major double standard and something that needs to be clarified.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663131

SoraJS wrote:
Lewis_is_java wrote:
SoraJS wrote:
Anon_Gaming wrote:
AA RFLeX wrote:
Raeker wrote:
In Dutch "Spook" means ghost, so if I start talking in Dutch and casually mention a ghost movie I'm suddenly racist????

Also, "Spook" is sometimes also an actual name people have. Are they suddenly racist for having parents that gave them their name?
Keep in mind that this is not a Dutch speaking community and that its an English one.

And keep in mind, the original english language, the original place of the english language, has NOT ever had that word as a Racial slur.
the word "Spook" in the english language, is todo with a ghost/scare. and that dates to a very long time ago, which is still it's definition today, AND even in the English dictionary is listed with that, NOT a definition, that simulated from america.
If we're taking that argument wouldn't that make a vast majority of very common racial slurs allowed then?
Name one
The N word was never in the original english language and had a racially offensive definition formed over a time I believe.

The N words definition, has ALWAYS been the same, from the time it was first used.
The term Picnicis a racial slur, So we can no longer use it, or we will get in trouble, same is "Cracker, Redneck, Casper, calling a white person a Ghost".
term 8Mile, also a racial slur.
"Ace Of Spaded".

And also in the american side, the word "Coconut" is also racial.

So, from the statements provided and used in this post, currently states that we can no longer use so many words, such as coconut
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663132

There are no double standards for me, at least.

If the word "-snip-" is said in a song, literally who cares - it's a song.

If you're calling some one the same word, then yes it is racism.

Same thing with "spook".
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663133

Lewis_is_java wrote:
SoraJS wrote:
Lewis_is_java wrote:
SoraJS wrote:
Anon_Gaming wrote:
AA RFLeX wrote:
Raeker wrote:
In Dutch "Spook" means ghost, so if I start talking in Dutch and casually mention a ghost movie I'm suddenly racist????

Also, "Spook" is sometimes also an actual name people have. Are they suddenly racist for having parents that gave them their name?
Keep in mind that this is not a Dutch speaking community and that its an English one.

And keep in mind, the original english language, the original place of the english language, has NOT ever had that word as a Racial slur.
the word "Spook" in the english language, is todo with a ghost/scare. and that dates to a very long time ago, which is still it's definition today, AND even in the English dictionary is listed with that, NOT a definition, that simulated from america.
If we're taking that argument wouldn't that make a vast majority of very common racial slurs allowed then?
Name one
The N word was never in the original english language and had a racially offensive definition formed over a time I believe.
You "believe"
Am I wrong though? No sense quoting me on that part unless I was wrong. Also, I'll say it again for the other replies I got, the word is pretty much only used here as a racially offensive word. I don't recall ever hearing the word used in the sense you're trying to say it is where I'm from ever in my life actually. I'll also say again I didn't even know it meant ghost until just recently just as you didn't know the racially offensive definition of it until recently.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663134

Morgan wrote:
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You obviously don't mean the name in it's racial context so why should it be changed? This is really stupid and the arguments against it are just pathetic. Hope it gets resolved soon.

If we make that argument here, a community wide statement needs to be made because clearly we cant have things two ways. Suddenly the n-word being used in popular songs and music videos is racist, but then those same people saying that make the argument you're using right now. It just seems to be a major double standard and something that needs to be clarified.
Well very rarely will a popular song include the n word with its hard pronounced ending ("-snip-"), normally it includes the word "-snip-" which in itself is not actually racist but is a term of endearment used between African Americans. In the case where the word "-snip-" is used it is racist.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663135

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There are no double standards for me, at least.

If the word "-snip-" is said in a song, literally who cares - it's a song.

If you're calling some one the same word, then yes it is racism.

Same thing with "spook".
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663136

Morgan wrote:
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You obviously don't mean the name in it's racial context so why should it be changed? This is really stupid and the arguments against it are just pathetic. Hope it gets resolved soon.

If we make that argument here, a community wide statement needs to be made because clearly we cant have things two ways. Suddenly the n-word being used in popular songs and music videos is racist, but then those same people saying that make the argument you're using right now. It just seems to be a major double standard and something that needs to be clarified.
Then n-word is straightup harmful from it's popular known definition, meanwhile "Small Spook" isn't in most areas and he doesn't intend on having the name in it's offensive term you may see it as, so there is literally no need in forcing him to change his name. I and many many other people didn't even know the name was racist (Americans on the otherhand do find it offensive in a racial term), this entire time it's been no harm to anyone whatsoever.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663137

Dramn wrote:
There are no double standards for me, at least.

If the word "-snip-" is said in a song, literally who cares - it's a song.

If you're calling some one the same word, then yes it is racism.

Same thing with "spook".
Also most songs say "-snip-" which is the greeting of one fellow black american to another with a rhythm and well known melodic tune to it.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #663138

Morgan wrote:
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You obviously don't mean the name in it's racial context so why should it be changed? This is really stupid and the arguments against it are just pathetic. Hope it gets resolved soon.

If we make that argument here, a community wide statement needs to be made because clearly we cant have things two ways. Suddenly the n-word being used in popular songs and music videos is racist, but then those same people saying that make the argument you're using right now. It just seems to be a major double standard and something that needs to be clarified.
Who's gonna clear this up? Us? the SSRP lead team? Because that would be an absolute stupid thing for us to do. This is something which impacts this guy everywhere, SSRP, Forums, TS, and wherever he plays.
If anything this should either be something the community as a whole should decide upon, or the Community Team alone.
But I'd rather have the community as a whole decide upon this since everyone here clearly seems to be wanting to give their word & Vote in the matter.
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