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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662880

Name - Small Spook
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Admins name - Morgan
Reason - Racism
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Story - Some little insignificant kids were getting all butt hurt about my name and crying about how it's 'racist' no ones reported it until the recent week of which lots of 'drama' has been made. I feel as though the ban on the name was an over reaction as my name wasn't being used in any situation to intentionally offend anyone, if it was "I hate Small Spooks" I'd understand but that was not the intention it was a harmless roleplaying name, which is well known and changing it now would confuse many members including staff among the zarp community. Spook wasn't originally a racist term, it's been a more modern racist term, so if Morgan becomes offensive to Asians or Chute is that going to have to change? I clearly did not mean it to be offensive as my avatar for the forums is a ghost which is .......... Spooky. I feel as though you have ruined my roleplaying name.
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Extra information - I believe there should be a vote in the next staff meeting.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662885

I like how you call other users (Who have been in the community much longer than you, keep that in mind) insignificant...
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662886

:support: its like saying baldy is racist
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662888

That's what happens if you give weed to Morgan
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662891

Like I've said before I've told you I thought your name was racist and I even mentioned it to other LT members at one point but no one seemed to care about it and just let it slide. When it comes to names like these if we're going to punish people for loopholing racism in others ways I believe we should also crack down on the names too.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662892

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That's what happens if you give weed to Morgan

He smonked dis for 40$

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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662893

I'll have to say that this "name change" is completely unneeded.
Everyone knows damn well that you had no intention to offend anyone with the name, and looking at it from an "international perspective" is misused here as Morgan was still looking at it from an American standpoint.

International aka across the globe means you have to take every country into account.
For example, within the Netherlands, the word "spook" means ghost, what if he was using it in a Dutch way? Could you really punish him for it because the name means something else in a different place? Of course not.

I find this entire name-change stuff complete and utter bullshit and I think it should be reverted ASAP.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662895

Akemi wrote:
I'll have to say that this "name change" is completely unneeded.
Everyone knows damn well that you had no intention to offend anyone with the name, and looking at it from an "international perspective" is misused here as Morgan was still looking at it from an American standpoint.

International aka across the globe means you have to take every country into account.
For example, within the Netherlands, the word "spook" means ghost, what if he was using it in a Dutch way? Could you really punish him for it because the name means something else in a different place? Of course not.

I find this entire name-change stuff complete and utter bullshit and I think it should be reverted ASAP.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662896

Alright let's get this out of the way, absolutely no offense but I don't really like you, Small Spook - which is your name.

In my completely invalid opinion, the name "Small Spook" is not racist at all. It is completely ridiculous that you've had to change your name, I understand that maybe if this was the 30's or something, whatever - But it isn't.

We need to take this from a logical point of view and understand that we actually need to draw a thick line in the sand about people's sensitivity.

It is the way we speak towards some one that makes something racist. For example, the other day I was called a "-snip-". It's absolutely not racist for me to reference that, but however, it IS racist to purposely call some one such language in order to hurt them.

What I'm saying is, the name "Small Spook" Is not racist on its' own.

Please allow him to change his name back.

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Last Edit: 7 years 3 months ago by Roy Harper. Reason: removed racist word
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662899

Akemi wrote:
I'll have to say that this "name change" is completely unneeded.
Everyone knows damn well that you had no intention to offend anyone with the name, and looking at it from an "international perspective" is misused here as Morgan was still looking at it from an American standpoint.

International aka across the globe means you have to take every country into account.
For example, within the Netherlands, the word "spook" means ghost, what if he was using it in a Dutch way? Could you really punish him for it because the name means something else in a different place? Of course not.

I find this entire name-change stuff complete and utter bullshit and I think it should be reverted ASAP.
its kinda the same in sweden spook/spöke/ghost
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662901

Akemi wrote:
I'll have to say that this "name change" is completely unneeded.
Everyone knows damn well that you had no intention to offend anyone with the name, and looking at it from an "international perspective" is misused here as Morgan was still looking at it from an American standpoint.

International aka across the globe means you have to take every country into account.
For example, within the Netherlands, the word "spook" means ghost, what if he was using it in a Dutch way? Could you really punish him for it because the name means something else in a different place? Of course not.

I find this entire name-change stuff complete and utter bullshit and I think it should be reverted ASAP.
The word isn't restricted to just the US. Also if you put it in your way you'd be disregarding what it's commonly used for in America as well (323.1 million in population). Also if you're going to say "Oh I meant it as this in this language" you could take that as loopholing as well. I don't see people who say their incorrect swastika is a buddism symbol getting their racism warning taken away or removed which is pretty similar in this sense then.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662902

spook
spo͞ok/Submit
informal
noun
1.
a ghost.
2.
NORTH AMERICAN
a spy.
"a CIA spook"

verb
1.
frighten; unnerve.
"they spooked a couple of grizzly bears"


He just wanted to spook a couple of grizzly bears. But not too much so it was a small spook.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662904

The word has deep racial meaning in America, I never punished you because that would be unfair. All I asked is that it was changed, a lot of players have been wondering why this was even allowed in the Community until recently when Tyler brought it to my attention. Also to those who are confused, saying you got spooked means you got scared - that's using it as a verb, you're going to scare someone, etc. However, this was not what was his name was. The word was used as a noun, and in a lot of places in the world it's known as a racist term up there with the same meaning as the n-word.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662906

SoraJS wrote:
Akemi wrote:
I'll have to say that this "name change" is completely unneeded.
Everyone knows damn well that you had no intention to offend anyone with the name, and looking at it from an "international perspective" is misused here as Morgan was still looking at it from an American standpoint.

International aka across the globe means you have to take every country into account.
For example, within the Netherlands, the word "spook" means ghost, what if he was using it in a Dutch way? Could you really punish him for it because the name means something else in a different place? Of course not.

I find this entire name-change stuff complete and utter bullshit and I think it should be reverted ASAP.
The word isn't restricted to just the US. Also if you put it in your way you'd be disregarding what it's commonly used for in America as well (323.1 million in population).
If we were to add up every country where it's popularised and have a war against them, spook is harmless, your point > in the bin.
You said this morning it was fine? What changed don't let Morgan peer pressure you man :c you're better than this Sora.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662914

I never knew this was a "racial slur" and i'm betting nobody else did here until that stupid report, the name is fine and no punishment should be necessary.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662916

I like ripping suits wrote:
I never knew this was a "racial slur" and i'm betting nobody else did here until that stupid report, the name is fine and no punishment should be necessary.
It's just some NA people thinking they're on top of the world
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662919

Morgan wrote:
The word has deep racial meaning in America, I never punished you because that would be unfair. All I asked is that it was changed, a lot of players have been wondering why this was even allowed in the Community until recently when Tyler brought it to my attention. Also to those who are confused, saying you got spooked means you got scared - that's using it as a verb, you're going to scare someone, etc. However, this was not what was his name was. The word was used as a noun, and in a lot of places in the world, it's known as a racist term up there with the same meaning as the n-word.
I appreciate the fact that you've stated your opinion here, where it's clear and visible. However you must keep in mind, even if it's a term for the N-word in some places, it's clear the person is using it in a harmless fashion, you can clearly see by for example his profile picture alone he's using it to refer to "ghost", not to anything else...

Everyone knows how this term is used in this situation and the only reason why it's being changed right now is that someone got butthurt over something so harmless...

I honestly don't even see the problem with a name like this, especially if it's used to refer to ghost.
You see if It was used in a racial fashion, of course, I'd be on your side, but right now I just can't agree with your point.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662920

Dramn wrote:
Alright let's get this out of the way, absolutely no offense but I don't really like you, Small Spook - which is your name.

In my completely invalid opinion, the name "Small Spook" is not racist at all. It is completely ridiculous that you've had to change your name, I understand that maybe if this was the 30's or something, whatever - But it isn't.

We need to take this from a logical point of view and understand that we actually need to draw a thick line in the sand about people's sensitivity.

It is the way we speak towards some one that makes something racist. For example, the other day I was called a "-snip-". It's absolutely not racist for me to reference that, but however, it IS racist to purposely call some one such language in order to hurt them.

What I'm saying is, the name "Small Spook" Is not racist on its' own.

Please allow him to change his name back.

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That's completely fine, thankyou <3.
Base with me or something so you know me better, might change your mind ;) c:
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662922

I'm sure there are plenty of names which have racist or offensive meanings in smaller countries like Zimbabwe or Luxembourg but regardless NA is not only one of the highest population countries in the world but it holds a large amount of ZARP's playerbase, as a result if enough people have a problem with the name's meaning then I'd say it's only fair to ask him to change it, not because of its meaning in any particular country but because of the amount of players who have a problem with it and have a real reason for it.
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NAME CHANGE?! 7 years 3 months ago #662924

hug my name is spooky baldy
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