TOPIC: [TeamSpeak]Anna & Akemi's demotion appeal

As I’ve said before, you haven’t had an official on Teamspeak for 3 months, a demotion was not needed, another official would have sufficed.

lol

TheXnator wrote: We can't keep handing out officials like they're candy. It is expected that you improve after an official and apparently the staff team believed that they had not improved.

To be fair, I have looked at when you've last done anything regarding appeals, and found very few - I'm unsure whether I searched correctly or not, but it did feel like you had hardly done anything regarding your duties on the Teamspeak. I did find an abuse report, but you would be perfectly capable of handling that without being a Teamspeak Head Administrator.

Also, please inform me if I'm wrong, but I believe the TS HA rank was introduced to relief the pressure of handling Teamspeak appeals from the CM team. And she hadn't handled any for quite some time, as far as I could tell.

Raeker wrote:
May I recommend reading the text I write? I explained why exactly it happened, and I may not have improved much to what it seems, but if you did read my text you'd know this is due to work mainly, which is something which won't stay forever either, not gonna spark an argument but if you'd want to, I'd like you to contact me on WhatsApp whenever you have the time so we can talk this out, as I don't think you fully understand the point I'm trying to make.

Relevant textAkemi and Anna wrote:

Give her the peace she deserves, she works hard outside of work and deserves rest lol...

Akemi and Anna wrote: I am afraid I am a bit tired and will read your appeal properly some other time - as you might have noticed, I have not in-depthly responded to either of your appeals and whether I support them or not. I'd like to do that when I have properly taken a look at all evidence provided, rather than going by whichever biased or none-biased feelings I might possess.

Raeker wrote: Understandable, thank you for the reply. Like I said, I'd love to talk to you whenever you want to get a more detailed explanation of the story and so that I can answer your questions directly if you have any, not trying to get you to be biased to one side, but sometimes letting someone explain their part of the story might give you a more fair insight, that's why the things I wrote on both appeals are so long, because I'm trying to put the way I see stuff into the appeal, VS the points/visions of others.

Generally speaking, most people don't even know I work, neither did I try to tell them. Yet it is ultimately the only reason why I've even been demoted/warned, I wasn't able to explain the reasons due to nobody contacting me beforehand with like "hey, you're doing this wrong could you improve it?" since work started. And the ones that did know, didn't seem to bring it up.

The purpose of these appeals is to show you my side of the story and to try to explain why exactly stuff didn't go so well, which are factors that will decide upon what your vote will be. Most won't even ask questions and stick with one side but I'd rather be able to answer all questions asked and try to see if people could gather the understanding for the situation I'm in.

I hope the Lead Team doesn't let this rude action be active any further. She seems worthy ones more.

Onion was kind enough to supply me with some "reasons" which I wasn't told about my demotion, let's see how much ground they have if I have the ability to explain these.
Akemi wrote:

Raifter wrote: I'll keep it short, it's way too late for long text. I would not exactly be getting a slap on the wrist, As I said my reduced "effectiveness" is due to a simple reason "work" if you'd read my appeal you know this to be true. I'd also recommend reading the above, as some points are just wrong. I did speak to others. This isn't often sure but It's not like I'm in that one spacer and isolate myself from the rest of the TS. If that would be the case I'd use discord instead.

I'd happily be talking to you over WhatsApp or any other way to explain my side of the story in full and turn that neutral into a positive vote, at least for either side.

Akemi and Anna wrote:
CM Team havn't been training them, thats been us TS HA's doing so, nor is it just by HA's on that specific server.

Don't take this reply as a form of dig or what ever, as it may come across as it.

After reading through your post + replies, there is 1 factor constantly popping up that is "Work", which is stated as, YES but i have work.

If you have no time to forfill a role then that spot should be opened up to possibly someone who could be active and assisting more.
You've stated you've still go over a month of your work left, meaning yet another month of little to nothing from you, WHICH by standards within zarp is WAY to long.

In my opinion, you should focus more on finishing them final things for school, to then come back to everything again once you have more time to dedicate(For the role of TS-HA that is).

This is not a dig, but just stating a point on that one part

The only problem I see with this is 2 of the reasons.

1 "Lack of HA duties"
2 "Sits in the same spacer all day"
3 "No interaction with other teamspeak staff"
4 "No training for accepted LT members"


I find it pretty retarded to even bring those two up as a reasoning for demotion. Just because you're in that position of power it shouldn't have to dictate who you talk to or prefer to talk to all the time. I would understand the no interaction with staff if the point was made that when it came to staff duty decisions etc that there was a hard lack of communication in that area then yeah sure that's a valid argument. But bringing up those 2 reasons without that argument is just straight digging for anything, your position doesn't control who you can and can't talk to all the time and shouldn't have to force you to talk to people you don't want to outside of your staffing duties.

Anon_Gaming wrote: I dont take your reply in any negative way, i understand your point.
However I have work each day from 8:30 AM to 5:30PM does not make me incapable of doing my duties, rather its unfortunate that no appeals or reports that ive seen popped up during my time at home. Except for Coutinroys appeal which i wanted to do but wasnt able to due to tyler not responding and that one report that i did help with. Its not as much me not having the time,rather its thats theres nothing to do when i do have time.
Which i shouldve stated somewhere else too but idk

Can the ts lead team look in the comments during the meeting and see how much support this person is getting, that means they've seen most of the good things she's done that you may have not seen, you shouldn't solely go based of your opinions but think about others opinions to but hey, I guess this isn't really a community that gets along with eachother is it.
Good luck.

Total BS demotion they just wanted to kick someone out because they could.

Same with the forums appeal onion all he does is shit post and I don’t normally seeing him doing stuff and when I come onto ts he’s just sat in a spacer not doing anything literally every ts staff does that so he has no room to comment on those also not denote worthy you are busy understandable and many ts staff does this you just seem like a target of some sort which is not ok

Good staff no need for this

Before I state what I see issues with I want to say that I voted for a warning and not a demotion,
But I do understand where the team is coming from.

Whenever you log in you join one channel and you sit there all day long and don't move around.
While I see other staff members randomly joining public channels to make sure that everything is going alright.
Of course I can understand if you are playing a game you are not gonna join random channels.

You state you don't have time to do your job due to work.
when I had work I came online every day to do my job for around 3 hours and then go to bed, I would sit on ssrp and Teamspeak and the forums trying to do as much as possible.
If you set your priorities to something else after you come home from work is fine but then don't blame it on I had work. Because everything is based on priorities yours just lie elsewhere.
And i sure hope your priorities lie with Real life and getting your studies going.

Like you stated yourself you don't have time for the job or the role due to work. Considering you accept this and do nothing for the teamspeak HA rank I am really not sure why your spending your time to appeal this.