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[TeamSpeak3] SyStem's Punishment Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #931541

RealDenis wrote:

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RedPowder wrote:

Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.

I'm a very strong advocate for free speech but I'm also a very strong advocate for people being treated equally and fairly. I personally think the "no tolerance" rule is bullshit and an infringement on free speech but I still have to follow the rules like every other member of the community.

I can 100% guarantee if I went on Teamspeak and called a staff member the n word I would instantly be banned for at least a week, why should he get special treatment simply due to his past work. If anything he should be getting a harsher punishment than a normal user since he is staff, his job is to uphold the rules and set an example for the rest of the community not to break them. If it were up to me he would not be punished at all and the "no tolerance rule" would be removed but the rule is in place whether we like it or not and so he should be expected to follow it and to be punished when not following it.

Tyler Durden wrote:

There are several people that want to keep System demoted that have said things ten times worse, you can’t pick and choose when offensive things are acceptable. I feel as if you being demoted was really harsh and a mistake.

You can actually, as we've seen before with Morgan for example when something offensive is said on ZARP it is unacceptable and when it is said elsewhere it is perfectly acceptable.

LonelyDodo wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

LonelyDodo wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.

People are being ageists and discriminating against someone who is over their age. If SyStem got demoted for racism cant we get all these 15 YO spammers demoted and forum banned because of this thread?

LoL wishful thinking, what’s funny though half of the people thinking it’s wrong have said the same shit while being at Zarp but for some reason they now want to stand up for what’s right.

I wonder what could be the issue here.... Oh right

B I A S

Where is the equal accountability policy when we need it. Important presidences being set here

You are using the word bias but I don't think you know what it means, if you want the equal accountability policy in place then you would actually be a supporter of this punishment as arguing with the punishment means you are suggesting that he should be given a lighter punishment than any other member of the community.

I myself have broken the racism rule multiple times in the past on multiple servers and have been punished for it and waited out my punishments, once again I see no reason why SyStem should be exempt from this.

Had you read my other comments you would also get that demotion is more comperable to permanent ban (which is not given in the case of racism) rather than any other punishment user can get.

And you can twist my words however you want but the thesis of my comment you quoted was that either you dempte everyone who discriminate on a single instance or no one

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[TeamSpeak3] SyStem's Punishment Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #931544

LonelyDodo wrote:

RealDenis wrote:

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RedPowder wrote:

Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.

I'm a very strong advocate for free speech but I'm also a very strong advocate for people being treated equally and fairly. I personally think the "no tolerance" rule is bullshit and an infringement on free speech but I still have to follow the rules like every other member of the community.

I can 100% guarantee if I went on Teamspeak and called a staff member the n word I would instantly be banned for at least a week, why should he get special treatment simply due to his past work. If anything he should be getting a harsher punishment than a normal user since he is staff, his job is to uphold the rules and set an example for the rest of the community not to break them. If it were up to me he would not be punished at all and the "no tolerance rule" would be removed but the rule is in place whether we like it or not and so he should be expected to follow it and to be punished when not following it.

Tyler Durden wrote:

There are several people that want to keep System demoted that have said things ten times worse, you can’t pick and choose when offensive things are acceptable. I feel as if you being demoted was really harsh and a mistake.

You can actually, as we've seen before with Morgan for example when something offensive is said on ZARP it is unacceptable and when it is said elsewhere it is perfectly acceptable.

LonelyDodo wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

LonelyDodo wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.

People are being ageists and discriminating against someone who is over their age. If SyStem got demoted for racism cant we get all these 15 YO spammers demoted and forum banned because of this thread?

LoL wishful thinking, what’s funny though half of the people thinking it’s wrong have said the same shit while being at Zarp but for some reason they now want to stand up for what’s right.

I wonder what could be the issue here.... Oh right

B I A S

Where is the equal accountability policy when we need it. Important presidences being set here

You are using the word bias but I don't think you know what it means, if you want the equal accountability policy in place then you would actually be a supporter of this punishment as arguing with the punishment means you are suggesting that he should be given a lighter punishment than any other member of the community.

I myself have broken the racism rule multiple times in the past on multiple servers and have been punished for it and waited out my punishments, once again I see no reason why SyStem should be exempt from this.

Had you read my other comments you would also get that demotion is more comperable to permanent ban (which is not given in the case of racism) rather than any other punishment user can get.

And you can twist my words however you want but the thesis of my comment you quoted was that either you dempte everyone who discriminate on a single instance or no one

Do you make everyone cringe as hard as you make me while reading your comments on this post?

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[TeamSpeak3] SyStem's Punishment Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #931545

Getzco wrote:

LonelyDodo wrote:

RealDenis wrote:

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RedPowder wrote:

Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.

I'm a very strong advocate for free speech but I'm also a very strong advocate for people being treated equally and fairly. I personally think the "no tolerance" rule is bullshit and an infringement on free speech but I still have to follow the rules like every other member of the community.

I can 100% guarantee if I went on Teamspeak and called a staff member the n word I would instantly be banned for at least a week, why should he get special treatment simply due to his past work. If anything he should be getting a harsher punishment than a normal user since he is staff, his job is to uphold the rules and set an example for the rest of the community not to break them. If it were up to me he would not be punished at all and the "no tolerance rule" would be removed but the rule is in place whether we like it or not and so he should be expected to follow it and to be punished when not following it.

Tyler Durden wrote:

There are several people that want to keep System demoted that have said things ten times worse, you can’t pick and choose when offensive things are acceptable. I feel as if you being demoted was really harsh and a mistake.

You can actually, as we've seen before with Morgan for example when something offensive is said on ZARP it is unacceptable and when it is said elsewhere it is perfectly acceptable.

LonelyDodo wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

LonelyDodo wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.

People are being ageists and discriminating against someone who is over their age. If SyStem got demoted for racism cant we get all these 15 YO spammers demoted and forum banned because of this thread?

LoL wishful thinking, what’s funny though half of the people thinking it’s wrong have said the same shit while being at Zarp but for some reason they now want to stand up for what’s right.

I wonder what could be the issue here.... Oh right

B I A S

Where is the equal accountability policy when we need it. Important presidences being set here

You are using the word bias but I don't think you know what it means, if you want the equal accountability policy in place then you would actually be a supporter of this punishment as arguing with the punishment means you are suggesting that he should be given a lighter punishment than any other member of the community.

I myself have broken the racism rule multiple times in the past on multiple servers and have been punished for it and waited out my punishments, once again I see no reason why SyStem should be exempt from this.

Had you read my other comments you would also get that demotion is more comperable to permanent ban (which is not given in the case of racism) rather than any other punishment user can get.

And you can twist my words however you want but the thesis of my comment you quoted was that either you dempte everyone who discriminate on a single instance or no one

Do you make everyone cringe as hard as you make me while reading your comments on this post?

Not sure what was cringy, but sorry for making you feel that way regardless

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[TeamSpeak3] SyStem's Punishment Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #931572

LOL WHAT i did not expect that rip system my dude, at least take the demotion with pride man it makes sense somewhat, unlike mine lol	Roy Harper Offline Adept Boarder someone stole my legendary member Posts: 6857 Thanks received: 1950 Karma: 15
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[TeamSpeak3] SyStem's Punishment Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #931579

Nick0GR wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.

I remember when onion sent a CM a video of a 12-year-old fucking a dead bird (I don't have proof of it because he didn't send me that video I was only delighted with hearing the CM's discomfort from watching the video) first of all that could get said CM (I won't say who in-case he doesn't want to talk about it) in trouble as the video counted as child pornography onion didn't even get a talking to for it (at least within my knowledge). If he is mature enough to send someone a video of a 12-year-old fucking a dead bird he can definitely tolerate someone calling him the N-word. I'm not saying what System did is okay but demoting him because of onion's age is extreme.

If i was you i wouldnt start throwing damaging stories around if you dont have proof

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[TeamSpeak3] SyStem's Punishment Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #931607

Okay, I think more than enough has been said on this thread. We will review this appeal in the next Teamspeak meeting at the end of the month. SyStem, if you have anything else to say, don't feel afraid to make a final statement or open this thread again for further discussion. We will be sure to take everything said into account during the vote.	Raeker Offline Former Community Manager It hurts the best of us Posts: 9175 Thanks received: 6577 Karma: 213
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[TeamSpeak3] SyStem's Punishment Appeal 6 years 5 months ago #931613

Thank you, Raeker. I believe everything has been said.. We have heard allot of stories here and there, and it's probably best we keep this locked until it gets handled by you guys - I do however feel like i need to talk to you or someone else about this, let me know when you guys have the time for it.	SyStem Offline Legendary Member The Specialist Posts: 3564 Thanks received: 982 Karma: 53
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