TOPIC: [TeamSpeak3] SyStem's Punishment Appeal

Hamzah wrote:
Users face 1 day ban on first offense. After this one day ban they are free to walk. This is more comperable to a permanent ban which you eventually will have to appeal (or in this case reapply) in hopes to receive the privilege back and thus I do not believe a full demotion was needed in this case even after hearing all the arguments for it

Blocked wrote:
This whole statement is a joke. You discredit all of someone's work on the server over one racist context/joke when everyone in ZARP has said something equally bad or worse alone with their friends. The mistake SyStem made was speaking freely without restraint on a ZARP server. If he said that with his friends outside of the ZARP community servers there would be no problem as seen in the past by a past head admin ("Yeah you are a stupid...") on CSGO with nothing happening to them. Don't discredit someone's work and loyalty to SSRP or ZARP over spouting some shit with a friend trying to make them laugh or saying the dumbest shit in a confined environment with a friend. Anyone who agrees with you on this tunnel vision; questioning and discrediting someone's ethic and loyalty over this is a fucking moron. On top of all of that, just about everyone who is staff in this community has talked shit about another staff member at one point.

Tbh this would have been better off with someone taking SyStem in a channel and settling any problems he has with said staff member there and left with an official and put on thin ice. (I haven't watched the clip of what he said but by what others are saying that's how I take it.)

Jalu wrote:
come on now, let's not over exaggerate. And let's certainly not pretend you're "oh so holy. " he made a mistake, a big one. But all his work and accomplishments shouldn't be discredited because of this. Everyone has bad days and this is certainly one of them.

And truely jalu, its a bit disappointing comming from you to go 'all hate' towards system because it suits you for this very moment. Grow up be more mature.

Blocked wrote:
Don't say you wouldn't trust him with SSRP staff if that's your view on it too. You saying that comment meant discrediting him of everything over his mistake of talking like that in the wrong setting. People here need to take a good hard look in the mirror.

Blocked wrote:
When ssrp staffing time began for me > 1 year 7 months ago. All ruined from 1 mistake, never been warned for anything like it what so ever.

yeah yeah we all know what you all scream when you get one shotted in fortnite by a sniper from across the map so stop pretending like this is a big deal

Tbh what a fucking joke, Onion literally BEGGED me for the video and then asked chute for special permission to use a TEAMSPEAK recording as evidence, and if I may add recording TS is ALLEGEDLY against the rules.

What I want to fucking know is why some ts recordings are allowed to be used as evidence, but were told you get banned if you record ts because “it’s illegal”.

I’d like to see this punishment revoked because recording TS is not allowed therefore the video should not be used as evidence, and becuase it was made quite clear to me that Onion just doesn’t like you, not only because of the events that led up to your demotion, but especially since a day or ago he told me to go for HA on surf so that you didn’t get it, and then since I didn’t make an application he asked corgi to tell me to apply for it.

Also fuck all of you for saying “System is a grown man, he should know better” literally half of you act like MASSIVE cunts on the servers becuase it’s fun, but then try to take the moral high ground and act like you act any better.

Yeah he said something racist, but honestly is it THAT big of a deal he had to be demoted for it? I was literally called the Nword by numerous staff members while playing fortnite, so it is quite apparent no one really “cares” about racism, they just like using it as a vehicle to hand out punishments.

I said the n-word 7 times in a spacer with Para when i trusted everyone in there. After para told me to stop i Kept going and he brought it up with a recording as proof. Got a official LUL

PUBG is a very intense game especially with 40 fps!

AceInsidious wrote:
That's how it's supposed to be

Context should matter on this bullshit no tolerance to racism rule. Also, he's a very trusted member of ZARP and it's his first mistake as far as I know
Big up system

Never expected this i have no words for whats happening..... i give no sp for this

You held a consistently deceitful nature towards me and my friends after we started getting false TS complaints from you and your friends so we would get banned, even after evidence being provided. We showed you the logs and you still lied to our faces, trying to justify your actions instead of accepting any sort of blame. This was done with no level of provocation involved, shown by the fact that we never even contacted you on Teamspeak up to that point.

Once again, we have more immoral actions with you being disrespectful to the highest degree, and further proving your inherent dishonesty and your tendency to self-consciously conceal the truth through the bullshitting in your appeal.

Why should anyone with that sort of character be trusted with any staff ranks at all, never mind Teamspeak?

SSRP headadmin btw

LonelyDodo wrote: You do realise that if a player has said something like this on a server, they would be instantly banned correct? Staff members should not get special treatments. Also System I know you're a great guy but this is the 2nd time you have said a racist word within the community. 1 in OOC on SSRP and the 2nd on teamspeak.

System has received an official before this, however on SSRP. The reason he's been demoted on Teamspeak is because he has already had his warning about racism on the server, even though it is 0 tolerance and he knows this. (So technically he already had his chance. He needs to learn a proper lesson on how to speak to people on the server and treat his fellow staff members)

Keep in mind a man your age should not be calling a 15 year old child a "dipshit n-word asshole" and that he should "die in hell"...

I respect you System and what you have done for the server, but c'mon. Are you serious? Over a surf meeting?

Also, why should you be given powers to remove someone from the server because they're breaking rules when you can't even follow them?

An official would be enough, a full demotion is stupid though especially because it was in a spacer as well, i've found that System is actually a decent staff member and shouldn't be shafted because of one mistake.

Jack. wrote: all fair and good until you realise we have a 0 tolerance policy and this is his second time doing it as a staff member

Xeronise wrote:
It is unfair to count this as supposed racism from SyStems part not to mention this was before the 0 tolerance policy and we dont punish retroactively

This displays your bias when you count 4 months old incident that wasnt even racism from him but rather a mistake in copy + pasting something to admin chat.