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RealDenis wrote:

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RedPowder wrote:

Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.

I'm a very strong advocate for free speech but I'm also a very strong advocate for people being treated equally and fairly. I personally think the "no tolerance" rule is bullshit and an infringement on free speech but I still have to follow the rules like every other member of the community.

I can 100% guarantee if I went on Teamspeak and called a staff member the n word I would instantly be banned for at least a week, why should he get special treatment simply due to his past work. If anything he should be getting a harsher punishment than a normal user since he is staff, his job is to uphold the rules and set an example for the rest of the community not to break them. If it were up to me he would not be punished at all and the "no tolerance rule" would be removed but the rule is in place whether we like it or not and so he should be expected to follow it and to be punished when not following it.

Tyler Durden wrote:

There are several people that want to keep System demoted that have said things ten times worse, you can’t pick and choose when offensive things are acceptable. I feel as if you being demoted was really harsh and a mistake.

You can actually, as we've seen before with Morgan for example when something offensive is said on ZARP it is unacceptable and when it is said elsewhere it is perfectly acceptable.

LonelyDodo wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

LonelyDodo wrote:

RedPowder wrote:

Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.

People are being ageists and discriminating against someone who is over their age. If SyStem got demoted for racism cant we get all these 15 YO spammers demoted and forum banned because of this thread?

LoL wishful thinking, what’s funny though half of the people thinking it’s wrong have said the same shit while being at Zarp but for some reason they now want to stand up for what’s right.

I wonder what could be the issue here.... Oh right

B I A S

Where is the equal accountability policy when we need it. Important presidences being set here

You are using the word bias but I don't think you know what it means, if you want the equal accountability policy in place then you would actually be a supporter of this punishment as arguing with the punishment means you are suggesting that he should be given a lighter punishment than any other member of the community.

I myself have broken the racism rule multiple times in the past on multiple servers and have been punished for it and waited out my punishments, once again I see no reason why SyStem should be exempt from this.

Had you read my other comments you would also get that demotion is more comperable to permanent ban (which is not given in the case of racism) rather than any other punishment user can get.

And you can twist my words however you want but the thesis of my comment you quoted was that either you dempte everyone who discriminate on a single instance or no one

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[quote="RealDenis" post=931531][spoiler] [quote="RedPowder" post=931215]Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.[/quote]
I'm a very strong advocate for free speech but I'm also a very strong advocate for people being treated equally and fairly. I personally think the "no tolerance" rule is bullshit and an infringement on free speech but I still have to follow the rules like every other member of the community.

I can 100% guarantee if I went on Teamspeak and called a staff member the n word I would instantly be banned for at least a week, why should he get special treatment simply due to his past work. If anything he should be getting a harsher punishment than a normal user since he is staff, his job is to uphold the rules and set an example for the rest of the community not to break them. If it were up to me he would not be punished at all and the "no tolerance rule" would be removed but the rule is in place whether we like it or not and so he should be expected to follow it and to be punished when not following it.

[quote="Tyler Durden" post=931246]There are several people that want to keep System demoted that have said things ten times worse, you can’t pick and choose when offensive things are acceptable. I feel as if you being demoted was really harsh and a mistake.[/quote]
You can actually, as we've seen before with Morgan for example when something offensive is said on ZARP it is unacceptable and when it is said elsewhere it is perfectly acceptable.

[quote="LonelyDodo" post=931223][quote="RedPowder" post=931222][quote="LonelyDodo" post=931220][quote="RedPowder" post=931215]Where’s all the “free speech” advocates at? He fuckdd up and got banned let him back. Oh and for the ones saying well he said it to a “15 year old” so fucking what if that kid is grown enough to bring his ass on here then he’s grown enough to hear it. What’s next oh he’s only 15 he don’t know no better. Sad fucks.[/quote]
People are being ageists and discriminating against someone who is over their age. If SyStem got demoted for racism cant we get all these 15 YO spammers demoted and forum banned because of this thread?[/quote]

LoL wishful thinking, what’s funny though half of the people thinking it’s wrong have said the same shit while being at Zarp but for some reason they now want to stand up for what’s right.[/quote]
I wonder what could be the issue here.... Oh right

[Size=5][b] B I A S[/b] [/Size]

Where is the equal accountability policy when we need it. Important presidences being set here[/quote][/spoiler] 
You are using the word bias but I don't think you know what it means, if you want the equal accountability policy in place then you would actually be a supporter of this punishment as arguing with the punishment means you are suggesting that he should be given a lighter punishment than any other member of the community.

I myself have broken the racism rule multiple times in the past on multiple servers and have been punished for it and waited out my punishments, once again I see no reason why SyStem should be exempt from this.[/quote]

Had you read my other comments you would also get that demotion is more comperable to permanent ban (which is not given in the case of racism) rather than any other punishment user can get.

And you can twist my words however you want but the thesis of my comment you quoted was that either you dempte everyone who discriminate on a single instance or no one

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