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I would like the Policy Changed.	45	83.3%
I would like the Policy as it is.	9	16.7%
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TOPIC: [ALL] Hacking Policy Change

[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561721

Server Name:
All ZARP servers

Suggestion Title:
Changing the punishment that are given to people who are caught hacking.

How would it benefit the server:
Cheaters are commonly found in ZARP and massively disrupt game play to those who play the game legit. As a cheater gets caught by a super administrator+, we have to approach them giving the evidence of them using cheats (often caught by the anticheat feature) and let them admit to their wrong doings which then means they know how they exactly got caught and will be able to know how they could get away with it next time. Alot of players also exploit this policy by hacking for months, gaining massive advantage over others and making loads of money knowing that if they get caught they are given another chance or have the ability to appeal their ban and get it accepted in 1-2 months. If this is changed so once a cheater gets caught, there is no chances to be given in-game unless they appeal their ban after the ban is placed without a chance given in-game and apologize for their actions and disruptive behavior they have caused.

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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561723

Please change this	Clarky Offline Former Community Manager I love Henny Posts: 16798 Thanks received: 9579 Karma: 983
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561724

Yes!!!	Wolfi Offline Legendary Member Future Owner and Manager of Murder Posts: 8738 Thanks received: 2707 Karma: 52
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561726

This would be a great addition to the policy, considering people hack for a LONG time and only get a KICK? WHAT? EDIT : Your poll is broken	MichaeI Offline Mythical Boarder CBR500R Posts: 5164 Thanks received: 1060 Karma: -7
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561727

Poll is now fixed!	RFlex Offline Legendary Member whats up Posts: 5684 Thanks received: 996 Karma: -60
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561729

Morgan brought this up once and we discussed this and I approached Tyler with it. He said he would bring it up in the CM Team Meeting but he might've forgotten. The main reason behind my support is that, as Morgan said, there is no reason to give them a chance in-game once caught, as there is an appeal system placed for a reason. I do believe however that the approach is good as it is.	Roy Harper Offline Adept Boarder someone stole my legendary member Posts: 6857 Thanks received: 1950 Karma: 15
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561731

The policy is fine people make mistakes it doesn't define them as a person. Many great people in this community have been caught hacking in the past including both the community managers. They may never have been CM in this case.	_Max Offline Former Community Manager Sup Posts: 2666 Thanks received: 1002 Karma: 15
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561732

_Max wrote: The policy is fine people make mistakes it doesn't define them as a person. Many great people in this community have been caught hacking in the past including both the community managers. People make mistakes and thats why they are given the right to appeal.	RFlex Offline Legendary Member whats up Posts: 5684 Thanks received: 996 Karma: -60
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561733

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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561735

_Max wrote:

The policy is fine people make mistakes it doesn't define them as a person. Many great people in this community have been caught hacking in the past including both the community managers. They may never have been CM in this case.

But if there's an appeal system in place why do they receive a chance in game? They're being given more than a chance, which is not fair for the rest of the players. If they get kicked they are more likely to join back later on with their hacks.

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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561736

_Max wrote: The policy is fine people make mistakes it doesn't define them as a person. Many great people in this community have been caught hacking in the past including both the community managers. They may never have been CM in this case. Wait so if I go and download some hacks right now and go on ZARP, intentionally I am making a mistake? NICE LAD!	Nafe Offline Former Community Manager Posts: 18649 Thanks received: 8606 Karma: -377
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561737

The hacking policy as is ensures that people get punished if they are hacking they don't get let off. They get 1 chance and they only get said chance if they openly admit to hacking. The percentage of hackers on the server is low and not as many as most of you guys think.	_Max Offline Former Community Manager Sup Posts: 2666 Thanks received: 1002 Karma: 15
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561739

_Max wrote:

The hacking policy as is ensures that people get punished if they are hacking they don't get let off. They get 1 chance and they only get said chance if they openly admit to hacking. The percentage of hackers on the server is low and not as many as most of you guys think.

How can someone admit to cheating when they are caught red handed? Not only that but we also have to present the evidence of THEM cheating so they can see exacly how we caught them.

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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561742

AA RFLeX wrote: _Max wrote: The hacking policy as is ensures that people get punished if they are hacking they don't get let off. They get 1 chance and they only get said chance if they openly admit to hacking. The percentage of hackers on the server is low and not as many as most of you guys think. They're kinda forced to admit to it if they're caught with proof aren't they though?	Nafe Offline Former Community Manager Posts: 18649 Thanks received: 8606 Karma: -377
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561743

Would like to see a change in the hacking policy	Nate Offline Diamond Boarder Bigwhal Gaming Posts: 3810 Thanks received: 500 Karma: -15
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561747

Can I ask you guys a question. Are you aware of what the hacking policy actually states? (If you are lead team please don't answer)	_Max Offline Former Community Manager Sup Posts: 2666 Thanks received: 1002 Karma: 15
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561748

_Max wrote:

The hacking policy as is ensures that people get punished if they are hacking they don't get let off. They get 1 chance and they only get said chance if they openly admit to hacking. The percentage of hackers on the server is low and not as many as most of you guys think.

For how low these percentages are, once you start hacking you know you have the ability to face a permanent ban. (Almost) all games do this, take the VAC ban for example.
Cheating in games is never and should never be allowed. Even installing them alone should be bannable not to mention using them.

And as mentioned before, us having to SHOW the proof to the people has saved so many hackers from actually being banned. Like sure, they still get kicked for it but they've done something that any other system would just permban. And not give them the chance to appeal for it. The fact that we let people appeal these bans already shows how forgiving we are in this IMO worst possible offence in multiplayer games..

Once you start using hacks on any server in any game and you get caught, you deserve a permban. Nothing else.
Note : Except for the right to appeal the ban

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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561749

_Max wrote: Can I ask you guys a question. Are you aware of what the hacking policy actually states? (If you are lead team please don't answer) Even if they are not fully aware of it they still know that you are given 1 more chance if caught.	RFlex Offline Legendary Member whats up Posts: 5684 Thanks received: 996 Karma: -60
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561750

_Max wrote: Can I ask you guys a question. Are you aware of what the hacking policy actually states? (If you are lead team please don't answer) Isn't it something like if you admit to hacking and openly admit to changing you have one more chance to turn off the hacks and play without them, but if caught again you get permanently banned?	MichaeI Offline Mythical Boarder CBR500R Posts: 5164 Thanks received: 1060 Karma: -7
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[ALL] Hacking Policy Change 7 years 4 months ago #561753

Anna wrote: Creating Cheating*	RFlex Offline Legendary Member whats up Posts: 5684 Thanks received: 996 Karma: -60
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