TOPIC: [SSRP] Job Abuse Rule Change/Addition

Server Name: SSRP

Suggestion Title: Job Abuse Rule Change/Addition

How would it benefit the server: I have been told multiple times and have seen Joshua(please don't start drama over him) tell people that you should stay on mutant for a specified amount of time (I believe he said a minute and a half) for it to to not be job abuse. As it turns out, this is not specified in the rules. So why dont we add it to the rules so people aren't getting punished for a rule they've never heard of before. Or at the very least just add more to the Mutant section of the job rules.

I'll quote Coda for a good reason to add this change:
freedahomies wrote:
This rule change/addition would clear up confusion, and make in game sits, and staff reports much easier to deal with.

Potential Issues/Exploits: n/a

Additional notes: thank you coda

IM DUMB SOMEONE MOVE TO SUGGESTIONS AAAAA

Swaping to mutant to kill hobo's then swaping back to another job within 2-3mins i would / other staff would see as job abuse.

with regards to hits / nukes there 99% last longer then 5mins so it would not be counted as job abuse.

freedahomies wrote:
99% - always that 1% chance it could.

joshuaharry wrote: Did you not just say that 99% of the hits take longer than 5 minutes?

joshuaharry wrote: This issue is that is not in the rules

We use the job hitman for claim an hit when it's placed btw when u doing something when ur job it's in the action and switch back to something for arrest someone at cops when u are wanted , during an drug run or escape an arrest it's job abuse but i can't say about mutant cuz it's hard

exemple if u want go mutant for a goal like kill people or have fun iit's not job abuse btw if u want use the job for target something like kill hobo and ruin their farming and switch instantly to FBI for raid a nuke or casino or zc or bank or pd it's job abuse

we need to add a timer in rule about 3=5 minutes for no trouble and mistake about people job abuse i think it's fair like
-mutant ( kill hobo )
-FBI ( kill drug run )
and maybe hitman for target an hit ( 10m or 100m ) who are not considering personaly a job abuse cuz the goal of his job it's claim hit so idk

there is some time exeption about this like the alt account who alt account cannot go /security or doing Raid or daily or drug run but can mine

bump

TBH dont this this is needed i just think people need to use common sense when reading the rules and stop looking for ways around the rules to try and irritate others

All the way, specify it in the rules before you start taking into account your personal opinion on what job abuse actually is when warning someone for it.

Quoting sinz a bit here but there are a few exceptions, aka the ones that are obviously far-fetched.

ArdiEmma wrote:
Not how rules work.

this was never, ever a problem until one moderator decided it was a problem. The issue is either with this staff member's enforcement of the rule or every other staff member on the server. I have done this countless times in front of many, many people because I am simply a hobo killer at heart, never once been punished for it. This shouldn't be a rule, this does not quantify as job abuse in any significant way. If someone wants to kill the hobos, they will just wait an extra minute, but that extra minute doesn't mean anything. This is a stupid suggestion but it's only being made because of a stupid attitude toward a rule. Just keep things the way that they have been since the rule was made in the first place and stop complaining that a digital homeless man covered in dirt was murdered when it's a feature of the server for them to be victims.

Final bump before lt meeting

if the whole problem is Mutants killing Hobos, making them wait an extra minute means nothing. They will just wait an extra minute. Most Hobos are AFK so it's not like they'll make a run for it within that minute. Making this rule more strict in this regard is pointless and silly, it should be solidified that a Mutant doing this is NOT job abuse.

Justice wrote: absolutely

We discussed this in the meeting and have decide to add a clarification to the rules about this. This would definitely be concerned job abuse under the current rules, as any time you switch a job to gain a specific advantage or bypass a rule (RDM) that would be job abuse. The way I see it you shouldn't see a hobo and swap to mutant for the singular purpose of killing them and then swapping back to another job. Its not an excuse to get away with easy RDM. Its intended to allow larger groups of people a chance to RP and fight. As always its up to an admin to determine if your abusing and if you don't agree with them please feel free to contact a member of the lead team to discus it.