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TOPIC: [TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture?

[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279129

Server Name: TTT 24/7 Minecraft

Suggestion Title: suggestion to fix 'NODRAW' texture under the buttom of the tester buidling

How would it benefit the server: this would stop people from being able to see through a wall those on the inside can not see through. Which means that players would no longer be able to gather information that they 'should not' have gathered to begin with.

Potential Issues/Exploits:
> Map decompile/compile errors.

Additional notes:
I did some digging myself:
i found that i did not have the materials (minecraft textures) to compile the map myself, so could not see if fix fixed texture.
I hope others will share their opinion on the subject. (and on the quality of the post :) )
as far as i remember the map has always had this 'missing' texture.

Is it actually a bug?
A) not really.
Are you sure it isn't actually just something you desire to be changed?
A) i do desire it to be changed.
Are you certain the feature isn't there intentionally?
A) I guess it was probably overlooked by the creator of the map.

What it looks like in-game:
https://imgur.com/gbhOFah

What it looks like in the map editor:
https://imgur.com/skJFcwC

Current texture is 'NODRAW' rather than "MINECRAFT/PLANKS"
https://imgur.com/GTqwIk1

How i think it can be fixed:
https://imgur.com/HmkZAXM

(Video) How i think it can be fixed:
link to video (me doing fix)

TEXTURE FIX SPEED RUN :) :
link to video
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279130

Thanks for providing the way to fix it, but it is a map change, meaning that it is no longer ttt_minecraft_b5. Map changes are something that don't usually happen.

Besides, it's really not that big of a deal at all and there's most definitely very few instances in which this bug/glitch affects the gameplay.
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279134

Any slight change to the map would mean people have to download it and right now the reason server 1 is way more popular than server 2 is because of the map as it is loved by many, I doubt any change will happen to it.
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279137


Too much trouble and work for something so relatively small.
Feel free to disregard this post. :)
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279140

Kanna1 wrote:

Too much trouble and work for something so relatively small.
Feel free to disregard this post. :)

If the map is changed then the map name will have to be changed. A lot of people find our server by filtering their searches to only play minecraft_b5 map, making changes to the map would mean changing the map name. Even though some changes would be good for the server, overall they wouldn't help the server because we would get less new players.
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279143

Kanna1 wrote:

Too much trouble and work for something so relatively small.
Feel free to disregard this post. :)

The problem ain't that they wouldn't want to do it. The problem is that without this map the server would lose players and not gain the number of new players. Any slight change to the map itself will cause it to be a different map. They would love to fix multiple things but not at the cost of risking the player base.
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279145

What if the changes are made and the map remains with the same name? Or will it just tell people that their map differs from the server instead of re-downloading it?
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279148

Ok.
I understand that i have not been clear enough on my position.
So i am writing this to hopefully make it clear.
I understand that this change would cause the map to change; whether that is the map changes name to a different version say. ttt_minecraft_b6 and that this would drive new players away; because they are familiar with the map name ttt_minecraft_b5.
Or in the way of a completely new map file, that would cause other problems. (assuming no map name change)

I am not for going through with this suggestion, if this would negativly affect the server.
As someone who practically doesn't know anything about updating maps on a behind the scenes server-administration level. I just assumed that you could 'save' the change, without actually changing the name of the map.

Although, here i go again.
Again, as someone who doesn't know alot. And the following is anecdotal:
The only 'real' change is:

side
{
"id" "0"
"plane" "(X Y Z) (X Y Z) (X Y Z)"
"smoothing_groups" "0"
"material" "tools/toolsnodraw" -> "material" "MINECRAFT/PLANKS"
"uaxis" "[0 0 0 0] 0"
"vaxis" "[0 0 0 0] 0"
"lightmapscale" "0"
}

And as mellow said:
What if the changes are made and the map remains with the same name?
Do we really need to tell the players?
:)

(intentionally leaving out:
Or will it just tell people that their map differs from the server instead of re-downloading it?
)
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279159

Kanna1 wrote:
Ok.
I understand that i have not been clear enough on my position.
So i am writing this to hopefully make it clear.
I understand that this change would cause the map to change; whether that is the map changes name to a different version say. ttt_minecraft_b6 and that this would drive new players away; because they are familiar with the map name ttt_minecraft_b5.
Or in the way of a completely new map file, that would cause other problems. (assuming no map name change)

I am not for going through with this suggestion, if this would negativly affect the server.
As someone who knows practically doesn't know anything about updating maps on a behind the scenes server-administration level. I just assumed that you could 'save' the change, without actually changing the name of the map.

Although, here i go again.
Again, as someone who doesn't know alot. And the following is anecdotal:
The only 'real' change is:

side
{
"id" "0"
"plane" "(X Y Z) (X Y Z) (X Y Z)"
"smoothing_groups" "0"
"material" "tools/toolsnodraw" -> "material" "MINECRAFT/PLANKS"
"uaxis" "[0 0 0 0] 0"
"vaxis" "[0 0 0 0] 0"
"lightmapscale" "0"
}

And as mellow said:
What if the changes are made and the map remains with the same name?
Do we really need to tell the players?
:)

(intentionally leaving out:
Or will it just tell people that their map differs from the server instead of re-downloading it?
)

it won't be called B5.. People search for the exact map name. With it being edited it will be called something else. Unfortunately it cant be changed without the map name being changed (afaik)
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 6 months ago #1279169

Surely this has been suggested before, Nobody really uses this to exploit it. It's been like this for years and no problem. If it does ever become an issue they might fix the map. No point atm they can't be bothered to make another :lol:
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[TTT Bug report/Suggestion] fix missing texture? 3 years 5 months ago #1284408

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