TOPIC: [SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings

Anon_Gaming wrote: The only punishment a staff member gets is a slap on the wrist so

Anon_Gaming wrote: Being known to defend the base is valid proof, Chute himself has used this when we've raided together when it comes to them coming back to the raid site. NLR tag for rich or not he was still at the active raid site relaying information while being known to be basing there and defending. On top of it all it was a spur of the moment thing. You can't return to the raid site and not expect to get shot after dying while defending.

AA RFLeX wrote: Only if you know for a fact they were defending the base, and I was apart of the raid and I do know he was part of it because I did make it into the district and saw name tags.

I can tell this will end with a "this will come up in the LT meeting" in short means "slap on wrist, done and dusted".

SoraJS wrote:
He had NLR which means that he has a new life. You cant jail some one and then arrest him again after his sentence because he onece had some some think again at the law.This is an RP Server. You have to ROLE-PLAY everything. He still had to try to arrest him first.

SoraJS wrote:
so what your saying, is having NLR in the district being raided, and being simply near that districts means you can be killed. If so, i will happily go abuse the shit out of that, because i would sure as hell get warned for doing that. Flash made NO attempt in his NEW LIFE(That magical thing called New Life Rule) to kill, or assist the raid in game, he made no attempt to enter the district, nor attempt to shoot any cops, or raiders, therefor, he was no longer part of that defense until his NLR was over, ontop of that ace has clearly stated, you are suppose to arrest before killing, unless the person resists, witch flash did not do, he was simply walking near the district, with no interaction with that raid.

There was no valid reasoning, displayed in that video, to fulfill a purpose to kill flash.

Furthermore, flash died while defending, which his NLR came in to play, meaning he was in a new life, with no knowledge, nor existence to prior defense, so technically the "Known Defending" should not have been used, based of NLR.

Anon_Gaming wrote: If I am remembering correctly I may be wrong but flash was in the gang of the people defending and he did return to the active raid site. Para has said you can kill gang members next to the raid site/building if they are in the same gang, in this case he was extremely close to it.

EDIT: Are you going to charge in and try to arrest people first before shooting during a cop raid? He probably could've arrested him but then again it was an active raid.

SoraJS wrote: Since you like the use of lines N L R Yes

So what if he is in the same gang as them? Does not mean he is nuking with them.

Roy Harper wrote: Talk to Para about it, I proved you wrong once on a similar report related to the gang thing.

SoraJS wrote: So why did i get warned for killing a cop who was obviously trying to raid our nuke,just because he hadn't made a move yet?
If so then i think it's bullshit a gang member can get KOSed just because he's in the same gang as the ones nuking.

Spooky Picnic wrote: If he hadn't made a move how was he obviously trying to raid? Gangs and cops are two different things.

AceInsidious wrote:
Unlike you some staff members tend to look into something a bit longer than you, and ensure that they don't make hasty decisions on something they barely looked in to.

Cough #raifster


sorry i had to roast boss

ParaMontana wrote:
omg so miuch roasted omg omg omg omg omg resign already how can you be so rude para you're like an actual cyberbully wow roasted like a chicken wing omg so much pro at roasting lskills

ParaMontana wrote: 0mGzZ! U g0T r0aSt3D!!!!1!11!

Clarky wrote:
ITS SO EPIC DUDE LIKE GOLDEN AGE OF TROLLIN IN ZARPGAMING.COM !!

ParaMontana wrote:

SoraJS wrote: What else would a cop be doing 3m away from a nuke ? If gang members can be KOSed just because they're in the same gang as the nuker then that clearly gives an advantage to the cops,because cops can KOS you but you can't KOS them.
Cops are pretty much a gang as they're all working togheter.

AceInsidious wrote:
lol nice meme

Once I'm back from class I'll post my decision. To those that feel this has been unfair or biased, I hope you realize that this report, accepted or not, has no relevance till the LTM. There is no need for me to rush judgement, especially against a SA. I would much rather wait and take time before I make a serious mistake.

While others may feel this is cut and dry, I hope you can understand that when fellow coworkers are expressing such strongly defended opinions it makes you stop and reevaluate your decision. When I decide this report, it is going to draw a line that many may or may not agree with.

One last thing to those assuming it'll only be a slap on the wrist. What do you want? A single RDM, if that is the case, is demote worthy for someone that has poured hours into the server helping? We handed out over 20 official punishments this last meeting. Mayn experienced more than just a "slap". Please stop assuming we do the least. We may not be the most transparent, but would it hurt to not always assume we do the bare minimum? I am not judge, jury, and executioner. The petty vengeance some of you seek for mistakes is awful to read.