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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680720

Forgot to mention, I will be handling this request. It will take a bit as of time as I'm trying to figure everything out about it.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680763

Jugger wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
ChummyXRay wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
ChummyXRay wrote:
Hamzah wrote:
ChummyXRay wrote:
Hamzah wrote:
ParaMontana wrote:
That moment you are in the middle of
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Combat zone and you complain that you get killed

Lmao ive never seen someonr so bias, if that was a user he wouldve been warned as crossfire is still rdm.

So bias? Are people here incapable of realizing the staff team is not a hive mind? Seems pretty apparent through Para's response that he would not warn someone for this, but others might in accordance with the rules.

Exactly and what is done with the people who fo the same? They get warned. And if they get warned and appeal it will simply be denied.

I'm guessing you don't exactly understand that bias is the incorrect word choice here. Staff can warn at their own discretion. Maybe you warn for crossfire RDM often, but I cannot remember the last time I did. So tired of people complaining staff are lazy and too loose then seeing people claim it's over the top and unfair.

In what way was this crossfire, he simply shot at him after a few seconds (and of course missed a few), also isn't it pretty clear that the staff team (not specifically at the lead team) are now lacking? Honestly look at a few months ago, the staff team was overflowing with applications, whats the point of that if they are too lazy to do anything, I would re-apply but after this message maybe get denied for my "poor attitude" but its not like I want to re-apply for a staff team that doesn't really care anymore imo.

Let me clear something up. My response was not to the video, it was to Hamzah's idea of what is bias and crossfire RDM. I never claimed it was crossfire, I again was talking about our ideas and differences towards the treatment and application of crossfire situations.

Lacking? We had almost 40 moderator applications this week, 11 admin, 7 SA, and 4 HA. We accept around 25% of moderator applications so when we have large exoduses of staff it takes a few weeks to bring the numbers back up. This has and will continue to always be an issue near the end of Summer.

You think you'd be denied for posting a good and constructive thought on the forums? You've been staff, you know that level of pettiness hardly survives when debating candidates. The staff team does care, probably more than it has in a long time. Re-apply and help if you want, I'm sure plenty would be happy to have you back.

Thanks, but you are missing so much rulebreaking and when someone isn't in control of these new staff members than they lose confidence like how I have from the past weeks that have went by, and they start caring less about the server. I do regret resigning and not doing F1s but whats the point when I get no support myself, I get someone to talk to, they either ignore me or take 6 hours to reply. I think I speak for everyone else but... ZARP will never be what it used to be.


When zarp was good you use to go On your brother account silent chicken and minge and break rules backstabb so you can't say zarp was good back then since you didn't take it seriously and you was a minge

Jugger, you can't really chat shit, you were so pay to win and talking shit about everyone back then and still are. A prime example is when you called me a "minge", you were a minge as well??? so.. and lmao I went on his account once to do something and a friend over at my house detonated SLAMs, you were so salty.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680797

AlphaLyle wrote:
Jugger wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
ChummyXRay wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
ChummyXRay wrote:
Hamzah wrote:
ChummyXRay wrote:
Hamzah wrote:
ParaMontana wrote:
That moment you are in the middle of
A
Combat zone and you complain that you get killed

Lmao ive never seen someonr so bias, if that was a user he wouldve been warned as crossfire is still rdm.

So bias? Are people here incapable of realizing the staff team is not a hive mind? Seems pretty apparent through Para's response that he would not warn someone for this, but others might in accordance with the rules.

Exactly and what is done with the people who fo the same? They get warned. And if they get warned and appeal it will simply be denied.

I'm guessing you don't exactly understand that bias is the incorrect word choice here. Staff can warn at their own discretion. Maybe you warn for crossfire RDM often, but I cannot remember the last time I did. So tired of people complaining staff are lazy and too loose then seeing people claim it's over the top and unfair.

In what way was this crossfire, he simply shot at him after a few seconds (and of course missed a few), also isn't it pretty clear that the staff team (not specifically at the lead team) are now lacking? Honestly look at a few months ago, the staff team was overflowing with applications, whats the point of that if they are too lazy to do anything, I would re-apply but after this message maybe get denied for my "poor attitude" but its not like I want to re-apply for a staff team that doesn't really care anymore imo.

Let me clear something up. My response was not to the video, it was to Hamzah's idea of what is bias and crossfire RDM. I never claimed it was crossfire, I again was talking about our ideas and differences towards the treatment and application of crossfire situations.

Lacking? We had almost 40 moderator applications this week, 11 admin, 7 SA, and 4 HA. We accept around 25% of moderator applications so when we have large exoduses of staff it takes a few weeks to bring the numbers back up. This has and will continue to always be an issue near the end of Summer.

You think you'd be denied for posting a good and constructive thought on the forums? You've been staff, you know that level of pettiness hardly survives when debating candidates. The staff team does care, probably more than it has in a long time. Re-apply and help if you want, I'm sure plenty would be happy to have you back.

Thanks, but you are missing so much rulebreaking and when someone isn't in control of these new staff members than they lose confidence like how I have from the past weeks that have went by, and they start caring less about the server. I do regret resigning and not doing F1s but whats the point when I get no support myself, I get someone to talk to, they either ignore me or take 6 hours to reply. I think I speak for everyone else but... ZARP will never be what it used to be.


When zarp was good you use to go On your brother account silent chicken and minge and break rules backstabb so you can't say zarp was good back then since you didn't take it seriously and you was a minge

Jugger, you can't really chat shit, you were so pay to win and talking shit about everyone back then and still are. A prime example is when you called me a "minge", you were a minge as well??? so.. and lmao I went on his account once to do something and a friend over at my house detonated SLAMs, you were so salty.

nah i never payed to win i bought 34 booster packs and i was not a minge i played legit and i played well i might be am inge now because its gone down hill soo much and i like chatting shit soo much fun
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680803

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What he said when you got killed is "You're part of the raid", which seems somewhat of a valid excuse, no? You're a gangster near a Nuke raid, and he's a cop - although I'm unsure what exactly the requirements are for things to count as a raid.

you need to learn rules bro
you cant protect your friend like this
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680809

RealDenis wrote:
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Rules should apply equally to both staff and players and unfortunately some staff members haven't got that message, let's say we take OnionRings' name out of the report and replace it with Rhys for example and I give this report 10 hours before it's accepted and a warn is given so I don't see why it should be any different just because OnionRings is Super Admin and Chummy I love you but that is bias unfortunately. Reluctancy to punish an individual due to their position in the staff team while being more than happy to punish players for the same thing is a bias towards the staff team, I'm sure there are reasons for this since giving a warning to a staff member has a much greater impact than it does on a player but regardless rules are rules and the bias should not exist.


All in all I have nothing against anyone in this thread (including Onion) but unfortunately a rule was broken and the rules are there to be upheld regardless of some staff being more lenient or not.

I like you too, Denis, but let me clear something up. Reluctant to punish? I do not have to handle every report that comes through. I am allowed to comment without being expected to the handler of the report. I do not rush my judgement and am not going to just because people expect some swift action. Bias? I'm biased because I'm not rushing a judgement and going to other SAs and HAs for some help? I have been talking to Para and others about this and there is not a solid consensus. This report can help set precedence for future reports meaning I'm going to go through all I can. Please, don't accuse me of being biased when I have not even issued a verdict. Bias due to him being SA would be instant denial.

Edit: I'm actually a little insulted you'd think so little of that I wouldn't offer this same style of patience to someone else. I have always been careful about reports concerning raids/nukes. If anything, your assumption of what my actions would be is a bias. You condemn me without even talking to me about it and assume the worst.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680818

I must say the people calling bias right now are being pretty thick, not to cause drama or anything...
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680823

No idea Why this is not accepted yet lol. Also where is the attempt to arrest first if he had a gun equiped?
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680825

AceInsidious wrote:
No idea Why this is not accepted yet lol. Also where is the attempt to arrest first?

They fighting to protect their precious Onion o.<
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680826

AlphaLyle wrote:
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No idea Why this is not accepted yet lol. Also where is the attempt to arrest first?

They fighting to protect their precious Onion o.<

If so then that would be corrupt asf. User get warned for this as Well so not on my watch that that is happening. Flash did not resist at all and had NLR.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680831

Inb4 physgunning into a base it's considered being part of it or raid
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680837

AceInsidious wrote:
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No idea Why this is not accepted yet lol. Also where is the attempt to arrest first?

They fighting to protect their precious Onion o.<

If so then that would be corrupt asf. User get warned for this as Well so not on my watch that that is happening. Flash did not resist at all and had NLR.

this man knows the rules

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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680902

I want to add something about that, someday I was 1v1ing with my friends at armor npc around, When I was shooting someone blocked me and I killed him, It was only misstake but I got warned for this. Guess who warned me ? It was Onion.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680938

ChummyXRay wrote:
RealDenis wrote:
:support:

Rules should apply equally to both staff and players and unfortunately some staff members haven't got that message, let's say we take OnionRings' name out of the report and replace it with Rhys for example and I give this report 10 hours before it's accepted and a warn is given so I don't see why it should be any different just because OnionRings is Super Admin and Chummy I love you but that is bias unfortunately. Reluctancy to punish an individual due to their position in the staff team while being more than happy to punish players for the same thing is a bias towards the staff team, I'm sure there are reasons for this since giving a warning to a staff member has a much greater impact than it does on a player but regardless rules are rules and the bias should not exist.


All in all I have nothing against anyone in this thread (including Onion) but unfortunately a rule was broken and the rules are there to be upheld regardless of some staff being more lenient or not.

I like you too, Denis, but let me clear something up. Reluctant to punish? I do not have to handle every report that comes through. I am allowed to comment without being expected to the handler of the report. I do not rush my judgement and am not going to just because people expect some swift action. Bias? I'm biased because I'm not rushing a judgement and going to other SAs and HAs for some help? I have been talking to Para and others about this and there is not a solid consensus. This report can help set precedence for future reports meaning I'm going to go through all I can. Please, don't accuse me of being biased when I have not even issued a verdict. Bias due to him being SA would be instant denial.

Edit: I'm actually a little insulted you'd think so little of that I wouldn't offer this same style of patience to someone else. I have always been careful about reports concerning raids/nukes. If anything, your assumption of what my actions would be is a bias. You condemn me without even talking to me about it and assume the worst.
Actually I was referring to Para when I stated there was bias, I don't think your being biased at all.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680939

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What he said when you got killed is "You're part of the raid", which seems somewhat of a valid excuse, no? You're a gangster near a Nuke raid, and he's a cop - although I'm unsure what exactly the requirements are for things to count as a raid.

you need to learn rules bro
you cant protect your friend like this
I'm not protecting any friends, I'm simply stating what I believe to be the truth. I'm not SSRP staff so I can't say much about this report. However, I did mention that I'm unsure what the requirements are for a raid and whether the user was actually raiding. I personally believed they were raiding judging by the video as they, as a raidable job, were near the raid - however if this isn't the case then obviously Onion was in the wrong.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680950

It sounded like Flash was giving info of how many cops there was and he also shot his physgun to Acsenda to identify himself, who was in rich district which means he interacted with the zone he had nlr in.

However it's not a valid excuse for Onionrings to RDM like that, i got a warning by Bazaraxe for doing this 3 days ago.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680988

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It sounded like Flash was giving info of how many cops there was and he also shot his physgun to Acsenda to identify himself, who was in rich district which means he interacted with the zone he had nlr in.

However it's not a valid excuse for Onionrings to RDM like that, i got a warning by Bazaraxe for doing this 3 days ago.

Physgunning counts as interacting with the zone he had nlr in?
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #680991

HENK JAN wrote:
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It sounded like Flash was giving info of how many cops there was and he also shot his physgun to Acsenda to identify himself, who was in rich district which means he interacted with the zone he had nlr in.

However it's not a valid excuse for Onionrings to RDM like that, i got a warning by Bazaraxe for doing this 3 days ago.

Physgunning counts as interacting with the zone he had nlr in?

Even looking at the district counts as interecting b0ss
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #681040

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No idea Why this is not accepted yet lol. Also where is the attempt to arrest first if he had a gun equiped?
Talk about jumping the gun without looking into it whatsoever. I'm just gonna reply with what I said earlier because I still believe people need to read it.


As for the video, the flash you were known to be defending in the raid and so was your gang I believe. Do you expect people to not shoot someone who has ties to the base right next to them whether it's through gang relation or you defending previously? Not to mention when you were right on the raid site and only ran slightly back.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #681085

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AceInsidious wrote:
No idea Why this is not accepted yet lol. Also where is the attempt to arrest first if he had a gun equiped?
Talk about jumping the gun without looking into it whatsoever. I'm just gonna reply with what I said earlier because I still believe people need to read it.


As for the video, the flash you were known to be defending in the raid and so was your gang I believe. Do you expect people to not shoot someone who has ties to the base right next to them whether it's through gang relation or you defending previously? Not to mention when you were right on the raid site and only ran slightly back.

Being known to be defending the base, is not hard proof, Flash clearly had NLR, and onion clearly did not see flash once attempt to defend that base, and also onion would have also been able to see the NLR tag over flash, meaning flash would not be allowed to even defend the base untill his NLR was over.

NO excuse for it, if users get punished for this, staff should too, flash made no interaction with the districts, raid or any of the people, which if you noticed, NO other cop attempted to harm flash. You don't kill someone based on suspicion.
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #681091

SoraJS wrote:
AceInsidious wrote:
No idea Why this is not accepted yet lol. Also where is the attempt to arrest first if he had a gun equiped?
Talk about jumping the gun without looking into it whatsoever. I'm just gonna reply with what I said earlier because I still believe people need to read it.


As for the video, the flash you were known to be defending in the raid and so was your gang I believe. Do you expect people to not shoot someone who has ties to the base right next to them whether it's through gang relation or you defending previously? Not to mention when you were right on the raid site and only ran slightly back.
if you were a cop would you shoot and kill everyone that you think has ties with a base? Not to mention you must first try and arrest some one first and if they resist you may shoot them.
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