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TOPIC: [SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings

[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #681203

Spooky Picnic wrote:

SoraJS wrote:

Spooky Picnic wrote:

SoraJS wrote:

Anon_Gaming wrote:

SoraJS wrote:

Anon_Gaming wrote:

SoraJS wrote:

AceInsidious wrote:

No idea Why this is not accepted yet lol. Also where is the attempt to arrest first if he had a gun equiped?

Talk about jumping the gun without looking into it whatsoever. I'm just gonna reply with what I said earlier because I still believe people need to read it.

As for the video, the flash you were known to be defending in the raid and so was your gang I believe. Do you expect people to not shoot someone who has ties to the base right next to them whether it's through gang relation or you defending previously? Not to mention when you were right on the raid site and only ran slightly back.

Being known to be defending the base, is not hard proof, Flash clearly had NLR, and onion clearly did not see flash once attempt to defend that base, and also onion would have also been able to see the NLR tag over flash, meaning flash would not be allowed to even defend the base untill his NLR was over.

NO excuse for it, if users get punished for this, staff should too, flash made no interaction with the districts, raid or any of the people, which if you noticed, NO other cop attempted to harm flash. You don't kill someone based on suspicion.

Being known to defend the base is valid proof, Chute himself has used this when we've raided together when it comes to them coming back to the raid site. NLR tag for rich or not he was still at the active raid site relaying information while being known to be basing there and defending. On top of it all it was a spur of the moment thing. You can't return to the raid site and not expect to get shot after dying while defending.

so what your saying, is having NLR in the district being raided, and being simply near that districts means you can be killed. If so, i will happily go abuse the shit out of that, because i would sure as hell get warned for doing that. Flash made NO attempt in his NEW LIFE(That magical thing called New Life Rule) to kill, or assist the raid in game, he made no attempt to enter the district, nor attempt to shoot any cops, or raiders, therefor, he was no longer part of that defense until his NLR was over, ontop of that ace has clearly stated, you are suppose to arrest before killing, unless the person resists, witch flash did not do, he was simply walking near the district, with no interaction with that raid.

There was no valid reasoning, displayed in that video, to fulfill a purpose to kill flash.

Furthermore, flash died while defending, which his NLR came in to play, meaning he was in a new life, with no knowledge, nor existence to prior defense, so technically the "Known Defending" should not have been used, based of NLR.

If I am remembering correctly I may be wrong but flash was in the gang of the people defending and he did return to the active raid site. Para has said you can kill gang members next to the raid site/building if they are in the same gang, in this case he was extremely close to it.

EDIT: Are you going to charge in and try to arrest people first before shooting during a cop raid? He probably could've arrested him but then again it was an active raid.

So why did i get warned for killing a cop who was obviously trying to raid our nuke,just because he hadn't made a move yet?
If so then i think it's bullshit a gang member can get KOSed just because he's in the same gang as the ones nuking.

If he hadn't made a move how was he obviously trying to raid? Gangs and cops are two different things.

What else would a cop be doing 3m away from a nuke ? If gang members can be KOSed just because they're in the same gang as the nuker then that clearly gives an advantage to the cops,because cops can KOS you but you can't KOS them.
Cops are pretty much a gang as they're all working togheter.

Walking by and didn't aknowledge it or was running to the nuke and raiding are different. If we're going by your logic we can KOS any gangster then.

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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #681209

After that moment thats just drama, can someone accept this?	The Flash Offline Senior Boarder Resigned SSRP Admin Posts: 584 Thanks received: 163 Karma: 35
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #681210

TheFlash wrote: After that moment thats just drama, can someone accept this? I am handling this. I am posting my verdict after class. People will wait.	ChummyXRay Offline Legendary Member Posts: 610 Thanks received: 650 Karma: 19
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #681211

TheFlash wrote: After that moment thats just drama, can someone accept this? Deny this*	Sora- Offline Legendary Member Capsule Corp. Posts: 756 Thanks received: 626 Karma: 12
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #681212

SoraJS wrote: TheFlash wrote: After that moment thats just drama, can someone accept this? Deny this* Thats why you cant get HA.	The Flash Offline Senior Boarder Resigned SSRP Admin Posts: 584 Thanks received: 163 Karma: 35
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[SSRP]Demote/Warn Request On OnionRings 7 years 4 months ago #681213

Jugger wrote:

ParaMontana wrote:

That moment you are in the middle of
A
Combat zone and you complain that you get killed

Can't use crossfire as an excuse anymore

We added the crossfire rule to stop abusive individuals from using it as an excuse to Mass RDM, not to protect people like you from running around in an active raid and not getting murdered. I mean for fucks sake its an active raid clearly if you stick around inside one your gonna have a bad time. Also seeing as it was the Flashes base and he had already died once considering he was under NLR in that district. Now he might not have done something right at that moment how ever NLR ends affter 3 minutes and at that point he would have been free to do what ever he wanted and you can be damn sure his first response would have been to gun down any cop he could see from behind. So why on earth would you let someone like that live? Being the smart individual that Onion was he was not going to let you just chill around while hes gonna raid your base. I mean come on thats just common sense. Because I saw someone mention it this same principle could have been applied to the cops who were running in, any player whos base that was once the raid had began could have killed any cop running into the district until such time as the raid ended as long as they didn't have NLR. If they have not started activitly raid and lets say are just checking around the district you would be on a much less valid reason to kill them until they made actual atempts on your base. Basically the rules are not here for you to scrutinize and look for every little loophole to abuse to get someone in trouble they are to protect the server from people like you.