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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57896

Nameful wrote:
@DarthVader Even if he spawned in those weapons he used them strictly on people who didn't mind, it isn't like he ran into a the PD and shot all the cops, he used them simply to help someone, and if we use that prove we're basically demoting him for helping someone, so to avoid being hypocritical we must demote the entire staff force and replace them with minges.

Namefull you dint watched video 1 ?? How cops trying to arrest him and he noclipping away ?? That is already eneugh abuse for demotion.... And than the massive rdm with the milkor or wateva he was using the m202 or something..

And sorry EMP :) 'im addicted to you (zarp)'
And you said about accounts getting banned is that also me :( please not again haha ;)
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57899

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@ nameful, lol he cant just spawn weapons to "help" someone, u just proved to us that he IS abusing his power. u cant go spawning weapons and "helping people", that is called abusing your power.

normal users get banned for just 4-5 warns in a row, so what about angelus?
from the evidence I saw, I think that Angelus must not only be demoted, but also permabanned.

+SUPPORT

EDIT: I had a friend who just prop minged and prop climbed and got banned for 2 weeks, only 2 warns and he was banned...... he was also new and his first game in gmod was in ZARP. that's not nice, and u banned him for 2 weeks, what if he broke the rules 15 times?


This is what im also trying to say.. Players get banned afther breaking 1-2 small rules... Only video 1 would be a perma ban to any other player.. Just rdming with no reason, angelus just rdmed there over 8 players that are trying to arrest him..

Good job hmmshark ya got eye's and big brains :)

And as i was reading a other post ofciurse the players that where involved in here with the abuse are trying to defende angelus (michael bay) is saying #FreeTheAngelus....

Even we all see he is abusing..

'Abusing/Bad players defende theire own kind' thats all i can say :)
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57900

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I was not gonna reply, but I felt the need to do so after reading your definition of Power Abuse, what you meant was spawning any kind of entities that normal players or admins/moderators don't have access to, for fun or not fun, alright then, in addition to the Super Admin with the Davy Crocket, I have seen 3 other Super Admins spawn such entities, for fun., without damaging anyone or hurting anyone, which is also abuse in your definition.

I'll explain what they each did one by one, but, I won't mention any names, I just want them to identify themselves alone if possible.


First Super Admin, my first days of being accepted a moderator, he got himself the secret car, went radio manager, and spawned the car chairs that are not spawnable neither by normal players nor the Furniture Salesman, he placed 3 on each side of the car, and called his car the Party Bus, which means, he spawned entities that are not accessible by normal players, then, he attempted to weld them, which means he used a tool that is not possible for normal players either.

Second Super Admin, this happened not so long ago, same with the first one, spawned us those chairs, and welded them, we were all cops at the time, there was 2 moderators with us in addition to him, we all enjoyed that, and no one was damaged, but, following your definition, that is Admin Abuse according to you.

Third, was spawning those IED Detonators, and was having fun with them, all players near him had a good laugh, it was enjoyable as well, no RDM happened whatsoever though, just doing narrations while using them.

All those were enjoyable moments for me, and was not any kind of admin abuse if you ask me, instead, just trying to have a good time, and I'm only mentioning those to have them to consider the video posted by Johnny Smith if it qualifies as abuse or not, I am not trying to accuse any of those mentioned above of abuse.

As mentioned in my first post, I am not trying to justify the other videos, as I haven't watched them and I wasn't there at the time, I am justifying the ones that I was in, and trying to fix up your PoV's on the videos.

I'm requesting that you rethink about your definition of Admin Abuse Darth, and think about what qualifies as Abuse and what qualifies as just having a good time.

Blocked, I will just say my opinion about your way of thinking. Forget about him spawning those weapons and cars to kill you and explain this, He based without guys as admin on duty and citizen, he had big weapons as citizen and on duty. He suicided then used his power to come back. These are in the same video you watch my friend. Now about him killing you with that double barrel, lets forget that the gun was spawned and that he was a citizen, are you even allowed to kill for fun? I mean a lot get warned when they ask to be killed, so how is this any different?

I'm eager to continue this conversation, i'll talk to you on steam.
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57901

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Nameful wrote:
@DarthVader Even if he spawned in those weapons he used them strictly on people who didn't mind, it isn't like he ran into a the PD and shot all the cops, he used them simply to help someone, and if we use that prove we're basically demoting him for helping someone, so to avoid being hypocritical we must demote the entire staff force and replace them with minges.

Thanks Namefu for telling us that he was "helping" peoplr by abusing his powers(oh wait, how is he helping them?? Don't you mean amusing them). And if what you are saying is true, then the whole staff team should be replaced with people like Angelus,that's if you mean that what he is doing isn't minging and what we are doing is wrong :)

You're just mad. I've never seen him abusing his powers and if he was messing around, people agreed with it and nobody got harmed. You remind me of a certain member that resigned, he also used to report people even if they didn't care about what happened.

From what I've seen in the first and other videos he doesn't really go around asking darth if he "could noclip out of his arrest", or if he could "tp to him and kill him with a spawned m202"
Clearly he (and others) did have a problem with it, hence why there is a forum report against him.

+support.. As i said before my mouth fell open when i saw that ... Its same as people do /kill in console.. But than in noclipping out... Come on namefull you are trying to protect something that is impossible.. People get warned for doing /kill in console and angelus gets nothing for noclipping out and massive rdming ??? And blocked.. on video 1 i think nobidy of them cops was having fun... Only angelus was laughing loudly...

Sorry if i post alot im trying to help discuss :) the more disscuss the better we get a vieuw of this problem
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57904

This is a demotion request on Angelus, not other Super Admins. If you think that they also break rules or abuse you can always gather proof and start a report abuse thread... If they did it and there's no proof, nothing can be done. Since there is proof of Angelus, and no proof for them, that doesn't justify his actions... Anyways, please don't stray off topic guys and post anything that is irrelevant to this specific thread, such as the other admins abusing (As I stated above, you can always report them if you have proof). Anyways, thank you for giving us your opinion Blocked.
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57905

@blocked
Noo noo its okay i aint offended or anything..
I know what you are trying to say but some things that angelus done where just for having fun but testing out on people that are roleplaying aint fun anymore than its abuse..

Like you said the party car or bus. I would not call it admin abuse because he is roleplaying with it and making people happy but what angelus did in video 1 was like :o <--- you get me ?? Admit it.. If that was me, i would be permabanned and probably not unbanned again for ever.. Like 100 other people..
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57909

Evilstewie wrote:
I have only ever seen him once in my game time (apart from one time he Davey crocketed server 2 no proof)
but all of these vids and pics show that he needs to be demoted ASAP!!!!!
but as he is a member of staff he will probably get the next chance to improve (hopefully he wont)
THEN we may get a new superadmin :O

From what I recall this was in the admin only area and thus killed nobody. Be more clear when you want to get your point across.
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57913

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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57914

Angelus wrote:
This thread was too tl;dr for my liking.

Also, about damn time.
Dunno why but i bursted into laughter when read this! Well dcx you wanted to see what he had to say about this well there you go! xD
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57915

JohnnySmith wrote:
Angelus wrote:
This thread was too tl;dr for my liking.

Also, about damn time.
Dunno why but i bursted into laughter when read this!

I did aswell :L
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57916

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This thread was too tl;dr for my liking.

Also, about damn time.
You are very nice funny guy but you are also minge. You should get demoted or get a ban like many. You also want to get demoted because you say this: Also, about damn time.

+Support, good luck!!!!!!
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57920

Super Admins should be the ones that set the example for everybody on the server; staff and users alike. If Angelus is breaking this many rules and setting this sort of an example for everybody I would say he's undeserving of the position.

I know from Friendly Players that demoting a Super Admin is a very big deal though; especially if it's a total demotion to user. I understand the Lead Team has a final say however I would suggest a demotion to Moderator (or maybe even a more limited custom rank, similar to a trial) and make him work back up to Administrator proving that he is still capable of staff.
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57922

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Super Admins should be the ones that set the example for <em>everybody</em> on the server; staff and users alike. If Angelus is breaking this many rules and setting this sort of an example for everybody I would say he's undeserving of the position.

I know from Friendly Players that demoting a Super Admin is a very big deal though; especially if it's a total demotion to user. I understand the Lead Team has a final say however I would suggest a demotion to Moderator (or maybe even a more limited custom rank, similar to a trial) and make him work back up to Administrator proving that he is still capable of staff.

Do you think a guy like that should even be a staff? Check what he replied about this thread then edit your comment :P
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57924

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This thread was too tl;dr for my liking.

Also, about damn time.
You also want to get demoted because you say this: Also, about damn time.
That doesn't mean he wants to be demoted, it mean he is surprised that he has only just been reported.
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57925

JohnnySmith wrote:
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Super Admins should be the ones that set the example for <em>everybody</em> on the server; staff and users alike. If Angelus is breaking this many rules and setting this sort of an example for everybody I would say he's undeserving of the position.

I know from Friendly Players that demoting a Super Admin is a very big deal though; especially if it's a total demotion to user. I understand the Lead Team has a final say however I would suggest a demotion to Moderator (or maybe even a more limited custom rank, similar to a trial) and make him work back up to Administrator proving that he is still capable of staff.

Do you think a guy like that should even be a staff? Check what he replied about this thread then edit your comment :P
Well, doesn't seem like he thinks he should be a staff member. After seeing the comment I'd say to fully demote him, and to question how someone who has no concern over a large demotion of a Super Admin and expected to get demoted even got the position.
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57926

TheVikingGhost wrote:
Super Admins should be the ones that set the example for <em>everybody</em> on the server; staff and users alike. If Angelus is breaking this many rules and setting this sort of an example for everybody I would say he's undeserving of the position.

I know from Friendly Players that demoting a Super Admin is a very big deal though; especially if it's a total demotion to user. I understand the Lead Team has a final say however I would suggest a demotion to Moderator (or maybe even a more limited custom rank, similar to a trial) and make him work back up to Administrator proving that he is still capable of staff.

If he is tooo lazy to read his own demotion request,I personally think that he should be demoted to user. If you notice his last sentence: Also, about damn time.
I think that he knows that he was going to get demoted someday, aka he knows that he was breaking rules and abusing his powers all along.
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57928

Angelus do you want to be staff ?

Thats my question.
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57931

DarthVader wrote:
TheVikingGhost wrote:
Super Admins should be the ones that set the example for <em>everybody</em> on the server; staff and users alike. If Angelus is breaking this many rules and setting this sort of an example for everybody I would say he's undeserving of the position.

I know from Friendly Players that demoting a Super Admin is a very big deal though; especially if it's a total demotion to user. I understand the Lead Team has a final say however I would suggest a demotion to Moderator (or maybe even a more limited custom rank, similar to a trial) and make him work back up to Administrator proving that he is still capable of staff.

If he is tooo lazy to read his own demotion request,I personally think that he should be demoted to user. If you notice his last sentence: Also, about damn time.
I think that he knows that he was going to get demoted someday, aka he knows that he was breaking rules and abusing his powers all along.
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JohnnySmith wrote:
TheVikingGhost wrote:
Super Admins should be the ones that set the example for <em>everybody</em> on the server; staff and users alike. If Angelus is breaking this many rules and setting this sort of an example for everybody I would say he's undeserving of the position.

I know from Friendly Players that demoting a Super Admin is a very big deal though; especially if it's a total demotion to user. I understand the Lead Team has a final say however I would suggest a demotion to Moderator (or maybe even a more limited custom rank, similar to a trial) and make him work back up to Administrator proving that he is still capable of staff.

Do you think a guy like that should even be a staff? Check what he replied about this thread then edit your comment :P
Well, doesn't seem like he thinks he should be a staff member. After seeing the comment I'd say to fully demote him, and to question how someone who has no concern over a large demotion of a <em>Super Admin</em> and expected to get demoted even got the position.

I agree, and it's pretty sad that he handles himself this way when he's been entrusted with such an important position.
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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57932

Evilstewie wrote:
to staff or not to staff hummmm

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[Demotion request] Angelus 10 years 4 months ago #57933

Well, it seems like I should make a proper response to this thread. Ignore my last post, it is just frustration.

Yes, I admit to all of the proof that is shown, and admit I have been truly abusive with the powers I have been given. I am also aware I have been taking it too far recently and have been letting my anger and frustration take over me, such as the incident with a player who thought it would be wise to call me 'kid', and Darth randomly coming up to me and killing me while I was messing around as a Citizen with a few people.

I agree with all the proof posted towards me, and I'm alright with the anger that is well deserved to hit me as well. I understand the frustration you all feel from the brunt of my own, and for that, I sincerely apologize.

I am not going to go into detail on why I've been feeling frustrated or angry, otherwise I'll just turn this into a post on where you're supposed to feel sorry for me. I don't want this post to be like that.

This post is to tell you all I accept all of the consequences and punishments I may endure over all of this, and I am very sorry. Please, disregard my last post. I've really not been feeling with it, as of lately.

Which is why you might not see me for a few days to a couple of weeks. I need time to catch up on my Job, and to clear my head from the recent events.

Thank you.

Edit: I will still be on Teamspeak however, so if any of you need a word, or want to vent some anger out at me back, feel free. It's the least that I owe you.
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