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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297276

Staff Member(s) Name: Darling

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I know Darling is head admin so he will likely comment that this is all wrong and lock the post quickly to stop any discussion, but I think its worth posting...

2 incorrect warn/slays and very poorly handling of the RDM reports.

Firstly, I will explain the 2 rounds which are relevant.
1) I see Broken snipe an inno, he then starts sniping another one. I snuck behind him and killed him. As I expected, he was indeed a T. Broken then reports me for 'joining gunfight' ... even though I had enough evidence without a doubt that he was a T.

2) I went into nether, T-Rex and Broken were in there together, a couple of dead innos around them. T-Rex shot at me, I quickly ran back out of nether and called "KOS T-Rex" in chat. Broken then exited the nether. I went back into nether and managed to kill T-Rex... and after checking his body I discover he is a T, as expected. Since Broken was with T-Rex and didn't shoot him once I called KOS, nor did T-Rex shoot Broken... and also the fact that T-Rex decided to shoot me infront of Broken, there was 0 doubt that Broken was also a T. I then found and killed Broken and found that he was indeed a T. Broken then reported me for RDM.

After both of the rdm reports Broken made on me, I explained my reasoning very clearly and sent back my reply. For some weird reason, Darling did not bother to open the report chat for either of them. Instead he sent some quick messages in general chat. General chat is hard to keep track of and reply to at the best of times, so it was weird that he did this. It was also my T-round next so that made it even harder to keep track of.

Broken then started saying that " I should have KOSed Broken for going in t-room"... which is weird because the T-room had nothing to do with either of the reports... so I don't think he read my reports correctly. So to summarise, I believe both the slays/warns were wrong, and Darling also processed the rdm reports very poorly and did not follow correct procedure.

Who Was In The Channel? - Darling, Broken, T-Rex and others
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297278

Without evidence this will just get shut down
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297279

Lewis_is_java wrote:
Without evidence this will just get shut down
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297280

typical darling
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297283

I don't think evidence will be needed. I hope that Darling will admit that everything I wrote happened and won't lie about the events.
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297284

You don’t have any evidence of this occurring, but both stories are plain RDM. On story 1, did you ask BrokeN why he was shooting at people and possibly killing them? If not, then RDM. If you did ask him and he didnt reply, then it’s not RDM.

Story 2, killing on suspicion. That was indeed RDM. T-Rex started shooting at you which is fine, so you KOSed him. You then killed him and he was a T. Just because BrokeN was there and he wasn’t shooting at him doesn’t not mean that BrokeN is also a Traitor. So both these situations are RDM so I don’t see any need for Darling to be punished.
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297285

Yakob wrote:
I don't think evidence will be needed. I hope that Darling will admit that everything I wrote happened and won't lie about the events.
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297286

Yakob wrote:
I don't think evidence will be needed. I hope that Darling will admit that everything I wrote happened and won't lie about the events.
evidence is crucial.... it’s like saying that someone committed theft, but you don’t have anything to back up the statement.. e.g. the item that was stolen, cctv, or witnesses
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297288

Yakob wrote:
2) I went into nether, T-Rex and Broken were in there together, a couple of dead innos around them. T-Rex shot at me, I quickly ran back out of nether and called "KOS T-Rex" in chat. Broken then exited the nether. I went back into nether and managed to kill T-Rex... and after checking his body I discover he is a T, as expected. Since Broken was with T-Rex and didn't shoot him once I called KOS, nor did T-Rex shoot Broken... and also the fact that T-Rex decided to shoot me infront of Broken, there was 0 doubt that Broken was also a T. I then found and killed Broken and found that he was indeed a T. Broken then reported me for RDM.Darling, Broken, T-Rex and others
I would just like to point out that no matter how obvious it is that someone is a traitor from this you aren't allowed to kill them, yes it is stupid but you just can't do anything until they've done something traitorous of their own accord. If one player is a traitor and another an innocent and they are reluctant to kill one another, the best you can do is report them for breaking rule 1.8 Ghosting/Metagaming.
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297290

Handling. I highly recommend posting some evidence of anything you can get.
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297298

1. If you are so sure that you saw me kill someone and then started killing another person you should’ve mentioned the predator claws i used to jump half way across the map in 2 seconds and even if i did kill a person and started to shoot at another person (who was shooting me at the time) you still didn’t ask why i killed them which is required.

2. That was just KOSing on association.

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I would like to also mention that me and darling explained it to you as to why you were punished plenty of times and not a nly that staffs word is final you insisted on spam complaining in the admin chat.
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Broken then started saying that " I should have KOSed Broken for going in t-room"... which is weird because the T-room had nothing to do with either of the reports... so I don't think he read my reports correctly. So to summarise, I believe both the slays/warns were wrong, and Darling also processed the rdm reports very poorly and did not follow correct procedure.

The T room was never mentioned in all of this.
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[TTT] Darling - poorly handled reports 4 years 1 week ago #1297299

Hi, Yakob.

After speaking to Darling and reviewing your report, I have determined that this staff report is denied.

Darling confirmed both situations you discussed, however, in both cases you did indeed break rule 2.1 - RDM. In neither situations did you have a valid, justifiable reason to kill the victims. Killing an innocent (without asking the murderer about their reasoning) and association (assuming someone is a Traitor because a proven Traitor wasn't shooting them) are not valid KOS reasons. I strongly suggest you read over the Rules to not run into such scenarios.

Darling has also said that you did not give much information to work with in the report window and you didn't respond to the report with a valid explanation, meaning he didn't assume there was a need of opening a chat.

Thanks for making this report, if you have any other questions/concerns, feel free to contact me on Discord @ Festive Ace#3797 (open DMs).

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