TOPIC: [FORUM REPORT] Whoever tf banned me

Staff Member(s) Name: No idea

Staff Member(s) SteamID: N/A

What Did The Staff Member(s) do?: Ban me on the forums for commenting "dumb dumb perp mod +support unban him" this post does not break ToS yet it was wrongfully deleted 3 times.

What Server(s) Was This On?: Forums

Evidence:

dumb dumb forum admin +support unban him

Ezz wrote:
plis

They don't like the "perp" word sorry

unfortunately it's become TOU to mention other communities lol...

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/10-announ...e-22-08-2020#1266779

Piggy backing on this to express my anger over my ban.

1 whole day for saying "Hello Bruce! Welcome to the Zarp community!"

If being nice gets me banned I don't wanna be straight

Nafe wrote:
The TOU actually states you can't "promote" them, so I don't see why you should be punished for (for example) mentioning perp or saying you don't like perp for instance. idk we'll see if my name suddenly turns banned color

Nafe wrote: This is a very weird rule especially when I wouldn't say I was promoting by saying dumb dumb perp mod


Maybe the banning forum staff wants to reply to this thread?

Looking at your ban here it says that it's because you were reposting the same thing constantly after it was deleted - wouldn't it have made more sense if your post was deleted and you were unsure as to why for you to try to contact a forum staff member and ask them why rather than posting the same thing again multiple times?

Nafe wrote:
KNOW your place pipsqueak

TheXnator wrote: I feel like you half ass diagonally read every forum post you comment on

I really wish the rules were so much more relaxed but what can ya do.. and no im not trying to show an attitude, im genuinely serious here it's becoming so strict to the point of where you have to literally think about what you post more in-depthly whereas it would not matter anywhere else.

PZGrens wrote: You are welcome to create a new report as the staff member that banned you is different to the one being reported here. Make sure to post in the correct section and follow the appropriate template!

This all could’ve been avoided too if there was some type of warning system on the forums...

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/server-is...sts?start=20#1271662

Hey man sometime people get muted on forums for no reason i was muted for 10 minutes for posting a SSRP Moderator form. i think it happens by accident or there is a moderator trolling but you should not of been banned it happens to the best of us

TheXnator wrote:
Yes I probably shouldn't have re-posted it, but when a post doesn't break ToS I can't understand why it should be deleted in the first place, hence why I reposted my non tos breaking comment.

Xnator wrote:
Yes, but actually...
Yes, the user could've contacted a staff member but, they should not have to. Because forum moderators are required to EDIT the deleted post and include a reason for deletion. The user had no idea what was being done wrong as the staff member who handled it was not adhering to Zarp Policies. Not to mention, how would he even know who to contact?

Yes, perhaps the user was breaking the Terms of Use, and yes, perhaps he should not have reposted it. But the staff members should read and abide by the policies that were set out, doing so would've given Aidan a good reason as to why his post was removed, and he would've presumably not reposted it and thus have never been banned.

I even dare say that the mistake here lies with the staffmember in question. Had the staff member not broken guidelines and told the user what he did wrong (by editing his original post with the reason and their name), he might've not posted the same post again, thereby avoiding the ban.

Simply Put: Because a staff member decided to break policies and not provide the user with a valid reason, the user ended up getting banned without knowing a real reason for getting banned.

Opinion starts here
I sincerely think that the report should be accepted, but instead of taking full on action the Moderator, Global Moderator, or Administrator should be re-explained the policies. For context, see the underlined text in the quote below:
Source

And I also rightfully believe that forum staff (if you see yourself performing this type of behavior I mean you) should stop taking the easy option (pressing the delete button) and actually do as is expected from them. Give users the reason for their post deletion, and give them your name when you do so so that they may dispute the claim.

We should be acting mature around this subject, rather than forum staff half-assedly removing everything they think "Breaks TOU". give users a proper reason so they are not left in the dark as to why their posts have been removed. And actually state your name so that the user may actually make a report/dispute it if they believe it is unrightful.


^{This post is based purely on the zarp policy outlined above, everything said was intended to restate the facts, and not take my opinion into account. At a certain point my opinion will be mentioned as a part of the ending statement, a bold header will be put in place to alert you from the shift of fact into opinion.}

I just want to point something out here, because I think you've slightly misunderstood the policy - it's more intended for communication between forum staff members, since users can't view their own deleted posts, so in this case whether the post had been edited or not wouldn't make a difference to the user, since they made no attempts to contact forum staff.

TheXnator wrote:
I appreciate you took the time to write a reply, and to your statement: To say that that thought had not yet crossed my mind would be a lie, however, the way it is written it would imply that it is there for both the other staff AND the users. I also bolded the following part of the policy to hopefully avoid that argument, yet, I had expected it happening anyway. Either way. I quote:


This sentence would imply that this policy is supposed to be enacted the way I stated above, not the way one might think. it is part of the reason why I suggested the staff member get a talking to, not a full blown warning or demotion as it is a messy policy that really should be rewritten. if its intention was not to help the user.

And as I had stated above, yes I know they did not make any attempt to contact a staff member but they really should not have to provided the above policy is correct. As a reason should've been provided. The user stated they had reposted it as they were unsure as to why it was deleted. Something which, could've easily been avoided.

In addition, even if the policy was not meant to also support the user, then the Community Team should make haste to rewrite it. We can only go off of things "as written" not "as intended". These aren't just some easily loophole able server rules, these should be proper policies acting as the foundation on which Zarp is built, there is no room for shakiness here.

I'd imagine that the original writer, I assume ChuteUK of them had put the thought into it, and included the sentence on purpose. Most policies are neat and well designed, I don't think this was a slip through the cracks, rather a purposeful addition to help the users in understanding what they did wrong. As the original author he is free to correct me if I am wrong.

It's been more than 2 weeks and this hasn't been resolved, I guess bump so that this can be handled.