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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #792979

Raeker wrote:

The warning is invalid, you were in a threatening situation. The fact that he straight up warns you without properly listening to your side is just wrong.

Regarding the disrespect... speaking in another language to someone that cannot understand it is disrespectful in and of itself, even if the words do not mean any harm.

Overall I believe the warning should be removed and System should be approached about doing sits better, however although the punishments for disrespect are harsh they are in fact valid.

I will not give my opinion on the whole "staff continuously spectating users" issue. I personally dislike that idea, however it's a fact that you have been recently un-cm banned. Say what you want but staff are allowed to spectate users within reason, and considering your past punishments within this community I have to say that System did nothing wrong there, even if you do actually see itas a dick move.

so if i talk to a staff member in another language he can mute me for 10 mins

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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #792993

Robbin wrote:

Raeker wrote:

The warning is invalid, you were in a threatening situation. The fact that he straight up warns you without properly listening to your side is just wrong.

Regarding the disrespect... speaking in another language to someone that cannot understand it is disrespectful in and of itself, even if the words do not mean any harm.

Overall I believe the warning should be removed and System should be approached about doing sits better, however although the punishments for disrespect are harsh they are in fact valid.

I will not give my opinion on the whole "staff continuously spectating users" issue. I personally dislike that idea, however it's a fact that you have been recently un-cm banned. Say what you want but staff are allowed to spectate users within reason, and considering your past punishments within this community I have to say that System did nothing wrong there, even if you do actually see itas a dick move.

so if i talk to a staff member in another language he can mute me for 10 mins

No but, if a user says that a sertain admins takes drugs, ALL the drugs possible because he is not right in the head. Im pretty sure that mute-able.

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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #792994

SyStem wrote:

Robbin wrote:

Raeker wrote:

The warning is invalid, you were in a threatening situation. The fact that he straight up warns you without properly listening to your side is just wrong.

Regarding the disrespect... speaking in another language to someone that cannot understand it is disrespectful in and of itself, even if the words do not mean any harm.

Overall I believe the warning should be removed and System should be approached about doing sits better, however although the punishments for disrespect are harsh they are in fact valid.

I will not give my opinion on the whole "staff continuously spectating users" issue. I personally dislike that idea, however it's a fact that you have been recently un-cm banned. Say what you want but staff are allowed to spectate users within reason, and considering your past punishments within this community I have to say that System did nothing wrong there, even if you do actually see itas a dick move.

so if i talk to a staff member in another language he can mute me for 10 mins

No but, if a user says that a sertain admins takes drugs, ALL the drugs possible because he is not right in the head. Im pretty sure that mute-able.

You didn't even know thats what it meant until 10 minutes ago so you can shut the fuck up with that shit

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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #792996

Lewis_is_java wrote:

SyStem wrote:

Robbin wrote:

Raeker wrote:

The warning is invalid, you were in a threatening situation. The fact that he straight up warns you without properly listening to your side is just wrong.

Regarding the disrespect... speaking in another language to someone that cannot understand it is disrespectful in and of itself, even if the words do not mean any harm.

Overall I believe the warning should be removed and System should be approached about doing sits better, however although the punishments for disrespect are harsh they are in fact valid.

I will not give my opinion on the whole "staff continuously spectating users" issue. I personally dislike that idea, however it's a fact that you have been recently un-cm banned. Say what you want but staff are allowed to spectate users within reason, and considering your past punishments within this community I have to say that System did nothing wrong there, even if you do actually see itas a dick move.

so if i talk to a staff member in another language he can mute me for 10 mins

No but, if a user says that a sertain admins takes drugs, ALL the drugs possible because he is not right in the head. Im pretty sure that mute-able.

You didn't even know thats what it meant until 10 minutes ago so you can shut the fuck up with that shit

Thats not what it means you dumbies, that cyber guy is from a whole other part of Norway than me, 2 different types of norwegian.

What it said in google translate is what I meant, hence why I fucking typed it in the first place lol.

Also the handling super admin can contact me for a full video.

And +1 lewisisjava

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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #793004

Also Cyber guy, our Norwegian is extremely different, if I talked in my mic u wouldnt be able to understand me. I would sound like a foreigner to you. Stoff = Fabrics, fargestoffer, etc, Klok = wise Klokkk = cool	111111 Offline Diamond Boarder Posts: 4367 Thanks received: 2024 Karma: 43
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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #793006

SyStem wrote:

Raeker wrote:

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Sada wrote:

System is known for holding grudges, he still holds one against me and I rarely play, he has been talked to before about this and yet still carries on, please demote this old fart

Wow! You're the one who constantly talks shit about me with you're mates, while i just do my job. YOou literally cannot say that?? Holy cow..

No offense but I haven't seen Sada in-game in ages. How can he talk shit about you when he doesn't even play?

Whenever he is there, eventually he would do something to put up a fight between me and him. But, lets just leave that. It's not the case right now.
I just feel like, the rdm warn is valid since we dont know what happend between klap and the slam guy BEFORE he started recording the whole thing?
And also, when someone points a gun to your face, you wouldnt feel threatened?? It's considered RDM if you kill someone for pointing a gun to his head, so how is this not rdm?
Also, if someone drives really fast towards you in a car, wouldnt you feel threatene?? Well, if you kill for that, its considered RDM. So i dont really get what you guys are saying, that it's invalid warn

What do you mean "we don't know what happened before", you were spectating him the whole time.
You may as well stop trying to create alternate scenarios to put Klap in the wrong, he got a SLAM thrown at him; regardless if he "threatened" the guy by pointing a gun or not he still had every right to kill him.
If someone chooses to shoot at someone because they feel threatened then the person being shot at can shoot the person back, instead of with you where you think the one getting shot at has to die and if he manages to kill him then he gets warned for RDM

You are just showing yourself to be a persistent liar and quite frankly a staff who doesn't know the rules.

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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #793007

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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #793044

SyStem wrote:

Raeker wrote:

SyStem wrote:

Sada wrote:

System is known for holding grudges, he still holds one against me and I rarely play, he has been talked to before about this and yet still carries on, please demote this old fart

Wow! You're the one who constantly talks shit about me with you're mates, while i just do my job. YOou literally cannot say that?? Holy cow..

No offense but I haven't seen Sada in-game in ages. How can he talk shit about you when he doesn't even play?

Whenever he is there, eventually he would do something to put up a fight between me and him. But, lets just leave that. It's not the case right now.
I just feel like, the rdm warn is valid since we dont know what happend between klap and the slam guy BEFORE he started recording the whole thing?

What the fuck are you on about? You were the one spectating him, you're supposed to know what happened. Don't bring up fucking shit about "Maybe this happened" when you just admitted that nothing happened before this or at the very least nothing that warranted this warning. Sorry System I've got nothing against you but you're seriously just making up shit to try and make Klap's story seem like bullshit, when you know full well that this is how it happened or at least that this was the reason you warned him for.

Owe up to your mistakes rather than trying to defend an argument that you know you've lost. That is the respectable thing to do, at least.

And also, when someone points a gun to your face, you wouldnt feel threatened?? It's considered RDM if you kill someone for pointing a gun to his head, so how is this not rdm?

What? Have you been warning people that were in a situation where someone pointed a gun at someone? I mean it would go under breaking FearRP if you'd kill them for it but it most definitely wouldn't be RDM.

Also, if someone drives really fast towards you in a car, wouldnt you feel threatene?? Well, if you kill for that, its considered RDM. So i dont really get what you guys are saying, that it's invalid warn

You're bringing up rules that have nothing to do with the situation at hand. In case you're nearly run over by a car you can't kill them because there's another rule that tells you what you have to do in case a car harms you. Have you ever even read the rules lol?

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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #793051

Raeker wrote:

SoraJS wrote:

Raeker wrote:

SoraJS wrote:

Raeker wrote:

The warning is invalid, you were in a threatening situation. The fact that he straight up warns you without properly listening to your side is just wrong.

Regarding the disrespect... speaking in another language to someone that cannot understand it is disrespectful in and of itself, even if the words do not mean any harm.

Overall I believe the warning should be removed and System should be approached about doing sits better, however although the punishments for disrespect are harsh they are in fact valid.

I will not give my opinion on the whole "staff continuously spectating users" issue. I personally dislike that idea, however it's a fact that you have been recently un-cm banned. Say what you want but staff are allowed to spectate users within reason, and considering your past punishments within this community I have to say that System did nothing wrong there, even if you do actually see itas a dick move.

Wait how are the disrespect warnings valid if that's all he had said? Just because someone types or speaks in a different language doesn't mean they should be warned for disrespect because of it. This may be an English based server but we aren't WW2 Germans my guy.

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Also, this was by far more disrespectful than what was typed (I didn't watch the video, too long didn't watch) I only read what was put in chat.
RhysA wrote:

"you disrespected me in your shitty language"

good staff

I did say that they were harsh punishments. Don't misunderstand me, I see no reason to punish anyone that speaks directly to me in another language that is not bothering anyone on the server, and it is clear that System took Klaprefot's words personally despite them not having any actual harmful meaning.

But it's a fact that they can technically be classed as disrespect, and those words were actually meant for System despite Klap knowing that System would not be able to understand it. Say what you want about the punishments being too harsh but I'm afraid they're valid.

They're valid because he chose to speak to him two lines in a different language (even though what he said wasn't disrespectful)? That's called being inconsiderate not disrespect, shit if you warn for that and call it disrespect let's warn people for having overpriced shops cause that's inconsiderate to players lul.

Fair enough. However the reason why I would consider them valid is because I've always been told by others, such as Captin, that speaking in another language to someone that doesn't speak it themselves is considered disrespect.

In the end if System found himself harassed by those words then he's allowed to punish for it. However you're right, the punishments are rather harsh and in the case of a report or an appeal I do believe they should be removed, such as now.

Captin

Raeker I feel harassed by the sentence you just wrote in English, I want that dealt with accordingly, please.

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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #793052

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[SSRP] Report Abuse System 7 years 3 months ago #793055

System has been talked to by myself and we have cleared up the RDM rule to ensure this doesn't happen in the future. He has also been reminded to keep his cool since him saying "Your shitty language" is defiantly not appropriate and not the right way to talk to someone.

The warning that was handed out for 'rdm' will be removed since the rules states

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

There is a difference between someone aiming a gun at you and someone throwing a slam at you. The difference is that in this case the person is actually using the weapon rather than just having it in their hand.

However for the multiple mutes that System handed out, the chat mute seems valid since

System ka slags stoff har du tekjen inni systemet ditt no, virke heillt vekk lol

System, what kind of drug have you taken into your system, you seem gone lol.

Tydligvis heile pakkjo, du e kje så klokkki høvvet

Apparantly all of them, you arent that clear in your head

Imo saying that someone is taking drugs in a way to say they are delusional is disrespect and it seems valid. However since I dont speak this language and I'm using whatever resources I can, I would be willing to give the punishment another look if supplied with further evidence of them not being disrespect.

However he also gave you a Gag which doesnt at all seem valid since you only talked to him once in the sit and didn't even mention him once, so im not too sure on why you were gagged. So I will be removing that as well.

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