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Raeker wrote:
Captin
Raeker I feel harassed by the sentence you just wrote in English, I want that dealt with accordingly, please.
SoraJS wrote:
In the end if System found himself harassed by those words then he's allowed to punish for it. However you're right, the punishments are rather harsh and in the case of a report or an appeal I do believe they should be removed, such as now.
Raeker wrote:
They're valid because he chose to speak to him two lines in a different language (even though what he said wasn't disrespectful)? That's called being inconsiderate not disrespect, shit if you warn for that and call it disrespect let's warn people for having overpriced shops cause that's inconsiderate to players lul.
Fair enough. However the reason why I would consider them valid is because I've always been told by others, such as Captin, that speaking in another language to someone that doesn't speak it themselves is considered disrespect.SoraJS wrote:
But it's a fact that they can technically be classed as disrespect, and those words were actually meant for System despite Klap knowing that System would not be able to understand it. Say what you want about the punishments being too harsh but I'm afraid they're valid.
Raeker wrote:
Wait how are the disrespect warnings valid if that's all he had said? Just because someone types or speaks in a different language doesn't mean they should be warned for disrespect because of it. This may be an English based server but we aren't WW2 Germans my guy.
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Also, this was by far more disrespectful than what was typed (I didn't watch the video, too long didn't watch) I only read what was put in chat.
RhysA wrote:
I did say that they were harsh punishments. Don't misunderstand me, I see no reason to punish anyone that speaks directly to me in another language that is not bothering anyone on the server, and it is clear that System took Klaprefot's words personally despite them not having any actual harmful meaning.The warning is invalid, you were in a threatening situation. The fact that he straight up warns you without properly listening to your side is just wrong.
Regarding the disrespect... speaking in another language to someone that cannot understand it is disrespectful in and of itself, even if the words do not mean any harm.
Overall I believe the warning should be removed and System should be approached about doing sits better, however although the punishments for disrespect are harsh they are in fact valid.
I will not give my opinion on the whole "staff continuously spectating users" issue. I personally dislike that idea, however it's a fact that you have been recently un-cm banned. Say what you want but staff are allowed to spectate users within reason, and considering your past punishments within this community I have to say that System did nothing wrong there, even if you do actually see itas a dick move.
Regarding the disrespect... speaking in another language to someone that cannot understand it is disrespectful in and of itself, even if the words do not mean any harm.
Overall I believe the warning should be removed and System should be approached about doing sits better, however although the punishments for disrespect are harsh they are in fact valid.
I will not give my opinion on the whole "staff continuously spectating users" issue. I personally dislike that idea, however it's a fact that you have been recently un-cm banned. Say what you want but staff are allowed to spectate users within reason, and considering your past punishments within this community I have to say that System did nothing wrong there, even if you do actually see itas a dick move.
Wait how are the disrespect warnings valid if that's all he had said? Just because someone types or speaks in a different language doesn't mean they should be warned for disrespect because of it. This may be an English based server but we aren't WW2 Germans my guy.
EDIT:
Also, this was by far more disrespectful than what was typed (I didn't watch the video, too long didn't watch) I only read what was put in chat.
RhysA wrote:
"you disrespected me in your shitty language" 
good staff
good staff
But it's a fact that they can technically be classed as disrespect, and those words were actually meant for System despite Klap knowing that System would not be able to understand it. Say what you want about the punishments being too harsh but I'm afraid they're valid.
They're valid because he chose to speak to him two lines in a different language (even though what he said wasn't disrespectful)? That's called being inconsiderate not disrespect, shit if you warn for that and call it disrespect let's warn people for having overpriced shops cause that's inconsiderate to players lul.
In the end if System found himself harassed by those words then he's allowed to punish for it. However you're right, the punishments are rather harsh and in the case of a report or an appeal I do believe they should be removed, such as now.
Captin
Raeker I feel harassed by the sentence you just wrote in English, I want that dealt with accordingly, please.
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