TOPIC: Opinions (do not lock)

My man is spitting some facts.

The time of attempting to make the old people return is over.
The issues stated over a year ago have still not been fixed, instead only more OP shit has been added, and has only become cheaper for the people with lots of money.
I will not go in depth again, because we all know the issue, and let's be real, we all know it will not be fixed within a few months.

Oh, and Patrick made the right choice, he made some damn good Star Wars RP maps

Carson wrote: Someone give this man legendary member pls

TheXnator wrote:
One thing that seems to keep coming up is the fact that there's just you and Chute working on the updates. You end up overworking yourselves and in return this slows down your progress. Maybe it's time to consider hiring/promoting some new developers. Now i know that it's not the easiest of things to do, as you'd need to find someone/people you can 100% trust to put in the right amount of work and not abuse their position, but it seems like the right decision from here on out. Maybe then you won't find that you're constantly overworked and making slow progress.

I still have hope for this community, as do many others, but as it stands currently little is being done to solidify its place in the future. Sticking with a maximum of 3 SSRP developers, with it really only being 2 working on the coding front is a huge flaw in my eyes. You won't be able to keep up with the desires/needs of the community, and the cashflow will slow down thus making it harder and harder to fund more updates.

Anyway, it's not my decision to make, nor should it be anyone's besides Chute, EMP and Xnator. It's something I and many others believe should be considered and hopefully acted upon at some point in the nearish future though.

The amount of things that have gone to shit in terms of the way things are handled is just far too many to even begin to list. The main problems are the ones that everyone talks about, that the server is very unfriendly to new players, it's near impossible to join nowadays and get any suit without spending money. I can recall years and years ago when every single building was occupied on the map and had some sort of base in it, whether or not it was on a large or small scale. It's more than fair to say that basing as a whole is dead, and it's been dead for far longer than anyone really says. Basing in my opinion died waaaaay back in Christmas of 2015 with the addition of the handcannon, so far up to that point there weren't any weapons that even came close to the level of prop destruction that the handcannon was capable of (possibly airstrike but it's 1 time use). I remember seeing the amount of bases take a nose dive after that update because a players entire base could be straight up deleted with a single shot of this weapon. People begged and pleaded for the weapon to be nerfed, but it never was, not until years later, but at that point it was far too late. This goes perfectly with my next issue.

The second big problem I have is the amount of suggestions that sat and sat for years without any sort of attention given to them, this has mostly stopped due to CC but there are still so many suggestions from years and years ago that could have really been amazing to add, but were forgotten and haven't even been considered for years. Also the CC really needs to stop giving half assed responses on why they deny certain suggestions, as transparency with between the community and the higher ups has ALWAYS been an issue.


The third suggestion I have is quite possibly the most severe, and that's the staff team. Most of the members of the staff team believe they are incapable of doing any wrong, and will take every opportunity given to punish people either out of spite, or because of grudges that have sat for years. To say the display that some of these people put up is pathetic would be a serious understatement, I'd go as far as to say these people have driven a large amount of new and old players alike off of the server. Sure after a while of doing the same things over and over it does get boring, but these certain people will go out of their ways to make people they dislike have a miserable time on the server. It could be threatening to "get you permd" or making up rules on the spot to make an excuse to punish you, it's above all else, the saddest thing that this server has to offer, and anyone willing to attempt to change my mind on this, there's absolutely no point. Myself as well as others have experienced this firsthand for years, some of these people truly are powertripping, egotistical scumbags, but since nothing has been done about it (and if you try to say something, good luck not getting a perm) it's been deemed acceptable.

My fourth and final issue comes with the repetitive nature of the server, updates used to be unique and would add new features that changed up the way you played. Now it's the typical create a case, put new or old items in it, make it a booster deal, create a match game with laughably low odds (1 in 2 billion chance to get an ultraboard btw) or some other type of gem/money sink reskin, and that's the update. That being said, the other repetitive elements mostly come from the map barely being altered in the past year and a half, most of the map is unfit for any sort of basing or nuking besides elevator or the entirity of warehouse district, the casino prizes never change and are extremely overpriced, the only sort of variety now are the drug runs and casino / armory raids, but even then those aren't even inticing unless there's a good item in any of them.

Bottom line is, there is a ton of work that needs to be put in to turn this server around to be friendly towards it's new players as well as the old ones. I'd like to be able to say that there's a chance for this server to flourish again, but at this time, it might just be too late. I really hope to see my mind changed on this sometime in the future.

I'm going to read over everything later, and maybe I'll address some things that people have mentioned on stream later today, simply because there's not much point repeating myself over text too many times, but I would like to reiterate one very key point:

In order for us to do something about staffing issues, you must REPORT these issues in the appropriate manner. The closest things I have seen to reports being made before people coming on threads like these and saying the server is dead/dying because of the staff team is people moaning that they got banned and trying to meme it. This is not a report. Immaturity, lashing out and showing an awful attitude is not a report. Spam joining the server on alts and being massively racist is not a report.

If you feel like a report will be handled in a biased manner, make it via a contact request and it will be handled in the Community Team meeting, or alternatively approach myself, Chute, EMP or Jim_Jam on Teamspeak, Steam or Discord and we will handle it ourselves. If you think that we will handle it in a biased manner, then I'm not sure what else you expect from us, as at that point there is no way for us to handle it which would please you. Just because you don't get the outcomes you want does not make it biased. There are people who have worked hard and put a shit load of effort into the community, and we're not going to straight up demote those people over one or two small mistakes when they've worked their asses off getting to where they are, and we're ABSOLUTELY not going to cave to abusive users who want to come on the server and troll/break rules/be toxic just because there's a large number of them.

I'd like to see some reports made from the people on these threads making these claims with appropriate evidence and examples to back up them up in the coming days. Thank you.

spicydoggo wrote: smile like the sunny

TheXnator wrote: If anyone needs an appreciation thread it's you bossman, been here for time working hard on the server and providing quality help and updates, as well as great streams

TheXnator wrote: don't want to sound as a dick but if you are busy when i say You i mean any member for the community team they should have someone in backup so im just saying if you got issues and i respect that just make a thread asking for assistance or make a new role like the community Council but a bit more important with more tasks to do i wish you do good in your exams .

Kato_ wrote: More money is only going to make suits and items more expensive. The addition of extra money in the economy would only raise prices making it still quite difficult for newer players to get the items necessary to actually have fun on the server. What we need is more items and easier ways to get these items on the server (ASCA comes to mind!), not more money.

Reset cash amounts and not items

Hi Carson,

Whilst I appreciate that we can always do better and listen more to what the community wants, the fact of the matter is that we have been listening now and listening for a long time. We created the Community Council over ten months ago and have since tweaked hundreds of minor features and values and implemented dozens of bigger and major features too.

The truth is Carson that threads just like this have been made for years and will continue to be made, there’s even a thread calling the community “shit” and dying within weeks of it holding the #1 rank for months on Gametracker in Summer 2015. Why? Because you cannot and never will please everyone. I’m not saying that person was completely wrong either, just because a server is popular doesn’t mean it can’t improve; in that person’s opinion the server wasn’t good enough. And the same goes for when we have less players on too, it doesn’t have anything to do with what you have listed here unfortunately.

We’ve had countless attempts by people who thought the community was shit and that all they need to do is remove this item or add this map, tweak these values and they’ll instantly be more popular than ZARP. Again I’m not holding that against them (except for the people who directly stole our code and content) I once wanted to make my own Community too. However, they quickly found out that just because a handful of people said ZARP would be 10x more popular if they just did XYZ didn’t mean it was true.

Go back to a year or two ago, there were multiple complaints that we worked on updates too big and not often enough. Now you are complaining that updates are being steamrolled out in your own words. And again I must stress that I’m not disagreeing with you or shutting you down. In your opinion updates could be done in a much better way. But again you notice a pattern, you cannot please everyone.

As for the staff team, it is the same exact issue I’m afraid. Go back to last year, 2018, in fact pick any year and you’ll find a thread calling the staff team shit, biased and corrupt. Again, in your opinion they are biased, corrupt and too harsh. Hopefully by now you know we are different than other communities when it comes to staffing. There is no better or fairer way to pick staff, but yet we still have complaints. You cannot please everyone.

The only thing I can offer you is for you yourself to join the Community Council, of course you would first need to think of a few ideas and suggestions; as you have identified a number of issues in your own opinion but we’d also need to hear of your best ideas for solving them. I am going to lock this here as we have answered you the best we can. I’ll also be available on Teamspeak/Discord if you want to discuss this further.

If you do decide to join and help us out then I look forward to hearing your ideas.

Thank you.