TOPIC: [SSRP] Punishment Appeal

Name - What is your in-game name?
lWl Super Golden Sinz
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID?
STEAM_0:0:3818233
Staff Members Name - Who warned you?
Duke
Punishment Reason - What was the reason of the punishment(s)?
RDA
Server - Which server did this occur on?
s1
Story/Situation - What happened?
so bignice was raiding the pd and when he got arrested helldawg as cop trying to free him without passing by the bail system and sometimes the player when unjailed have a chance to stay in pd wich mean he can have "again" the chance to keept doing his raid wich me I anticiped that and arrest him again since he would be a threat again and then duke classified that as " a past crime" when in reality it's more logic to arrest back since he was still in the pd then at spawn
Extra Information - Anything you would find relevant to your punishments(s)?
especially since I didn't even have a recent for a long time and especially for "rda" and at least there was nothing serious about leaving me on a warning while bignice just wanted to act like that because he was warned before by duke himself since he was racist recently so I don't find it logical to warn me for this situation especially since it is logical and also a moment of survival and unlucky
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This is not a decision on the appeal sinz, just extra info i think you should have regarding the rules
They may only arrest wanted/people who break city law. You cannot arrest people for past crimes if they are no longer wanted. (e.g. /crimes)
That rule specifically the “You cannot arrest people for past crimes” was the reason i warned you, you gave davie no time to leave the PD after being unarrested, and he wasnt wanted for any reason, if he had pulled a gun out or refused to leave the PD after you asking him to leave that would be an acceptable reason to arrest him, but you gave him no time to react and did mot confer with the other police officer who unarrested him, Helldawg. Just thought id drop my reasoning for any Admins who are gonna take this to lend a helping hand

Dukee wrote: and as I stated in the appeal as you did not listen to what I said in the extra which is always good to remember is that since it is "rare" this situation was turned into bad luck and your explanation stated for you and as if it happens all the time so your reasoning based on an event that happens in 20 does not justify the action that you acted thus as I had also stated and the context that I gave

Moreover he was always "actively" in the pd as I said previously and especially when he was in a "pd raid" context and how helldawg acts in the situation he does not have the right to release a person with regard to the baton but rather from the bail system which makes the situation even more twisted than it already is for ultimately nothing

So to conclude this has nothing to do with the "past crime" but the context and that I know perfectly the rules on the "rda" since if you were able to have the knowledge of the staff ethos you should know that we base ourselves on the last recent ones and my recent "rda" was in 2020 so I think you reacted badly following that from my point of view, a little reminder does not hurt
"When punishing users, you can use their previous punishments to help you decide on your punishment. However, we advise you to only take into account the last two weeks of punishment, otherwise it would be unfair to users who have tried to improve and change their attitude."
while bignice was released after 15 seconds of this or less, so you're making a big deal out of it even when I have the right to still arrest him EVEN if he didn't pulled out a gun or waiting cuz he would act instantly and have the right to rip me since he is still raiding the pd so that don't make sence at all and also like I said helldawg had no right to unarrest via the baton "aka corruption" cuz ofc unarrest someone as cops without paying the bail tax that considering "corrupt" when in the rules it clearly said "no corrupt" so he used an illegal way to avoid tax bail and free a criminal for free

The pd raid is over once he is arrested. I don't think you can simply say that just because he got unarrested and not teleported to spawn that he is still a threat. And also Helldawg does not need your permission to unarrest anyone. If anything, it is you who jumped the gun in this scenario because you gave Davie 0 time to react to the unarrest and if anything you just extended his arrest for 0 reason.

The difference between the two is that, dead he has a new life so cannot come back to the place ( PD ) while "arrest" means that he can come back and especially with the bail system if there are people who can help him so no in this context the raid was not over

As I said before helldawg had no right to act in unarresting a criminal with his stick which is considered corruption instead of using the "bail" because it is also because of him that the luck factor made him return to pd, and in the following context as I said before he is still considered dangerous especially when he was released inside the pd which always contains a threat so I reacted quickly, it is not a question of letting it act while he was still in the places of our zone, I had every right to arrest him and his timer was not extended because as said before he was released 10 seconds later so that does not change anything at all to what I said and rather reinforces my opinion

Duke and ded gave you perfectly elaborate and valid reasoning as to why the warn was warranted.