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TOPIC: Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM

Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300853

I don't understand your complaints. If it's not against the rules you can do it. If it is against the rules you get punished, simply how it goes. I am in no way against you, I completely understand your frustration and I do think such behavior should not be allowed by the rules, along with a few others. However, it is nowhere stated that you can't do it, therefore they did not break anything, and since they didn't break anything, you did by killing your T buddy.

You are not staff. You can't take the rules into your hands and punish them your way. Luckily so if you ask me.
By revenge-rdming you just further escalate and get yourself another warning which's incredibly stupid, sorry.

Your last rule 1.8 quote is irrelevant since both of them were communicating through in-game chat and both were alive.

Again, I am not against you, but your wording and actions are pretty toxic. I'd suggest refraining from acting like this in future reports as it only plays against you.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300895

I actually don't know if this is an appeal but you're going to want to use the template if you want this taken seriously.

[b]Name -[/b] What is your in-game name?
[b]STEAM-ID -[/b] What is your STEAM-ID?
[b]Staff Members Name -[/b] Who warned you?
[b]Punishment Reason -[/b] What was the reason of the punishment(s)?
[b]Server -[/b] Which server did this occur on?
[b]Story/Situation -[/b] What happened?
[b]Extra Information -[/b] Anything you would find relevant to your punishments(s)?

and if it is meant to be a punishment request, I still can't tell but again the template.

[b]Name[/b] - (What is the accused person's name?)
[b]Steam-ID[/b] - (What is the accused person's Steam-ID?)
[b]Evidence Of Steam-ID[/b] - (Screenshot or video of the accused players Steam-ID)
[b]Server[/b] - (What server was this on?)
[b]Time And Date (CET)[/b] - (When did it happen?)
[b]Other Comments[/b] - (Anything else you want to add?)
[b]Reason[/b] - (What rules did the person break?)
[b]Story[/b] - (What happened?)
[b]Proof[/b] - (Any proof (video or screenshot) that clearly shows what happened.)

The templates are here to help you and the handling staff and if you choose not to use them you're just wasting your own time and it will get denied.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300897

I probably should’ve spoken to suh about teaming, but before all this happened, I didn’t know he was a traitor. But since you decided to kill your own T buddy, is that not RDM? And you seriously need to buck up with your attitude. You aren’t going to get what you want by throwing the nastiest things you can say towards other people.

I think that’s what’s been said by everyone else is all there really is to it. Imo I don’t think weasel and I should be punished. After all, it’s staff decision anyway. But I get your frustration.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300900

Metagaming is against the rules, but under no circumstance are you allowed to kill your T buddy, unless its an accident or you retaliating because they shot you first. If you were KOS'd and he gave out your location, that is against the rules as he was your T buddy. However you response to kill him made you guilty, I would've punished you every day of the week. If he continues doing this, gather some evidence and report him, because this will get you nothing.

Biosenic and weasel did nothing wrong, you didn't even report suh in game, which is one big factor that could've gotten him punished, and don't forget as Nay mentioned above. You aren't a vigilante, staff exist to enforce rules.

And one big thing, staff don't get punished in game so don't ask for a slay or a in game warning on a staff member in the future.

Also, what is this? an Appeal or a Punishment Request?

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300912

Okay, so using Traitor signs that are visible trough the entire map to let your T-buddies die is not an offense. good to know this server has even more shitty weird rules that exist to be abused for injustice.

But fine, I'll take your feedback and get every single staff member reviving an inno but not killing the man a demote request since you all seem okay with violating your own rules and enforcing them in a way that seems completely random to me.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300913

Quimoth wrote:

Okay, so using Traitor signs that are visible trough the entire map to let your T-buddies die is not an offense. good to know this server has even more shitty weird rules that exist to be abused for injustice.

But fine, I'll take your feedback and get every single staff member reviving an inno but not killing the man a demote request since you all seem okay with violating your own rules and enforcing them in a way that seems completely random to me.

Or you're delusional and we just told you three times tell a staff member and don't break a rule to counter other rule breaking.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300914

Then what is killing an RDMer or propabuser that didn't hurt you (YET)?

I never seen anyone get warned or slain for that.

Are you guys delusional hypocrits or can you start using some common sense. Him giving my location trough the use of my traitor sign and reviving a D is breaking rule 1.8 twice... It is fucking obvious that it is self-defense when I kill him because I can't hide or sneak or do anything as long as he is alive and griefing.

If you have a double standard, I will point it out to you.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300915

Quimoth wrote:

Then what is killing an RDMer or propabuser that didn't hurt you (YET)?

I never seen anyone get warned or slain for that.

Are you guys delusional hypocrits or can you start using some common sense. Him giving my location trough the use of my traitor sign and reviving a D is breaking rule 1.8 twice... It is fucking obvious that it is self-defense when I kill him because I can't hide or sneak or do anything as long as he is alive and griefing.

Ever consider the possibility they were not reported?

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300916

Quimoth wrote:

Then what is killing an RDMer or propabuser that didn't hurt you (YET)?

I never seen anyone get warned or slain for that.

Are you guys delusional hypocrits or can you start using some common sense. Him giving my location trough the use of my traitor sign and reviving a D is breaking rule 1.8 twice... It is fucking obvious that it is self-defense when I kill him because I can't hide or sneak or do anything as long as he is alive and griefing.

If you have a double standard, I will point it out to you.

right uhm, if someone is blatantly going around killing and giving no valid purpose whatsoever i.e. an rdmer, I'd kill them it's evidently a traitorous act. however, if it's in a following round that the rdmer gets killed because of the RDM, well that is punished it's called revenge RDM (generally just punished as RDM).

In your case you were a traitor, they were a traitor you killed them for saying where you were, instead you could have killed the detective/innocents whom were going to find you, Maybe if you think before you act you won't receive punishments for such things then you could have followed up by reporting the traitor whom was giving away all the info and getting them punished instead of getting yourself punished, also if the rules are so shitty and weird why don't you just go find another community? No one is forcing you too stay.

Also, as has been stated previously if you want this appeal to be taken seriously you best put it into the template.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300917

I've seen cases where they were and not punished. But fine, lets go all double standard, not like I'm expecting anything else.

Self-defense isn't sufficient to kill your T-buddy for if he violates rule 1.8 twice and you dont want to wait for him to keep telling the innocents where you are.

But just scrap rule 1.8 if you're violating it yourselves all the time and use that as an argument to keep saying i was wrong to kill the griefer.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300920

Quimoth wrote:

I've seen cases where they were and not punished. But fine, lets go all double standard, not like I'm expecting anything else.

Self-defense isn't sufficient to kill your T-buddy for if he violates rule 1.8 twice and you dont want to wait for him to keep telling the innocents where you are.

But just scrap rule 1.8 if you're violating it yourselves all the time and use that as an argument to keep saying i was wrong to kill the griefer.

You are only making this more difficult. Punishments are at staff's discretion that is likely why you see a double standard. Had you appealed this and said yeah I broke a rule but it was in self defense he defibbed a innocent and was calling us out etc etc. A staff member would have one hundred percent accepted this. Instead someone made a post you did not like and decided to go around calling us hypocrites and idiots. Half of this stuff you are complaining about is not even control of the people you are trash talking. We told you four times what he did was a rule break and you could have reported him by now and got him punished AND got your warning removed. Instead you insist on trying to argue with staff. A rule break is a rule break. Rule breaking does not beget a rule breaking response. That is the way it is like it or not.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300921

Quimoth wrote:

I've seen cases where they were and not punished. But fine, lets go all double standard, not like I'm expecting anything else.

Self-defense isn't sufficient to kill your T-buddy for if he violates rule 1.8 twice and you dont want to wait for him to keep telling the innocents where you are.

But just scrap rule 1.8 if you're violating it yourselves all the time and use that as an argument to keep saying i was wrong to kill the griefer.

"were and were not punished" Ok, Maybe they got a verbal, maybe they got forgiven or maybe the person just didn't care enough to report it, It has nothing to do with staff suddenly deciding they favourited that person and didn't want to punish them.

as for "Self-defence" self defence would be if he attacked you, Giving your location is not a valid reason to kill them as stated you could have dropped a little message to the staff online explaining the situation and got the other traitor muted, the issue being you didn't and that you killed them.

now for the point where you're stating staff violating rule 1.8 themselves, Gather some evidence and report it, Cause damn this is the first I've heard about it.

and just going to say this again If you want this report/appeal taken seriously please add the template, otherwise it will get closed and declined.

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Betraying T-buddies and reporting for RDM 3 years 10 months ago #1300927

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