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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875747

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875748

:minusupport: Nothing Personal i just think thats stupid af and also that would be considerd rdm to me	Salted Wine Offline Expert Boarder Posts: 1178 Thanks received: 224 Karma: -25
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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875749

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875750

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

he was wanted with an m202 out

He wasn't even facing you. If simply existing is considered threatening now then fuck my life I guess I'll never get a girlfriend.

even if he was not it still has splash damage

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875752

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I don't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actions. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight. It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875754

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I dom't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight! It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

I'm pretty sure he was trying to cut down on the recents, I havent been as active but I dont see him rulebreak at all when I am there, and I know he doesn't want to get banned. Your also calling him a cunt when you don't even know him?

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875755

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I don't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight. It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

why are you assuming my attitude when even you said you don't know me and you are basing it off of 1 video

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875762

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I dom't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight! It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

I'm pretty sure he was trying to cut down on the recents, I havent been as active but I dont see him rulebreak at all when I am there, and I know he doesn't want to get banned. Your also calling him a cunt when you don't even know him?

I said he acted like a cunt, I never called him one. Like I said, I'm sure he's a good guy and a great friend, but don't act all high and mighty as you laugh when you rip someone's suit and get banned because it was a blatantly dickish move that can almost definitely be called RDM.

Sorry, I'm sure he's a great guy and all that, but if you don't want it that peoplr call you out for acting like a cunt then simply don't act like one.

I do have to say that it is commenable for him to try to cut out the recents, it definitely shows some sort of respect, but I'd still like to see a massive attitude change from him, because this kinda stuff is just a dick move.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875766

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I dom't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight! It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

I'm pretty sure he was trying to cut down on the recents, I havent been as active but I dont see him rulebreak at all when I am there, and I know he doesn't want to get banned. Your also calling him a cunt when you don't even know him?

I said he acted like a cunt, I never called him one. Like I said, I'm sure he's a good guy and a great friend, but don't act all high and mighty as you laugh when you rip someone's suit and get banned because it was a blatantly dickish move that can almost definitely be called RDM.

Sorry, I'm sure he's a great guy and all that, but if you don't want it that peoplr call you out for acting like a cunt then simply don't act like one.

I do have to say that it is commenable for him to try to cut out the recents, it definitely shows some sort of respect, but I'd still like to see a massive attitude change from him, because this kinda stuff is just a dick move.

It may be a dick move but karma is a bitch man.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875772

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I dom't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight! It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

I'm pretty sure he was trying to cut down on the recents, I havent been as active but I dont see him rulebreak at all when I am there, and I know he doesn't want to get banned. Your also calling him a cunt when you don't even know him?

I said he acted like a cunt, I never called him one. Like I said, I'm sure he's a good guy and a great friend, but don't act all high and mighty as you laugh when you rip someone's suit and get banned because it was a blatantly dickish move that can almost definitely be called RDM.

Sorry, I'm sure he's a great guy and all that, but if you don't want it that peoplr call you out for acting like a cunt then simply don't act like one.

I do have to say that it is commenable for him to try to cut out the recents, it definitely shows some sort of respect, but I'd still like to see a massive attitude change from him, because this kinda stuff is just a dick move.

more than half of my recents are false but I don't bother to report them because I don't feel like wasting my time because an admin is being corrupt or does not know the rules

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875774

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I dom't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight! It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

I'm pretty sure he was trying to cut down on the recents, I havent been as active but I dont see him rulebreak at all when I am there, and I know he doesn't want to get banned. Your also calling him a cunt when you don't even know him?

I said he acted like a cunt, I never called him one. Like I said, I'm sure he's a good guy and a great friend, but don't act all high and mighty as you laugh when you rip someone's suit and get banned because it was a blatantly dickish move that can almost definitely be called RDM.

Sorry, I'm sure he's a great guy and all that, but if you don't want it that peoplr call you out for acting like a cunt then simply don't act like one.

I do have to say that it is commenable for him to try to cut out the recents, it definitely shows some sort of respect, but I'd still like to see a massive attitude change from him, because this kinda stuff is just a dick move.

It may be a dick move but karma is a bitch man.

All too true, I'm sure. Regardless I would just like to emphasise that I don't think John is a cunt, I simply stated he acted like one concerning this specific scenario. I don't know the guy but I'm sure there's nothing wrong with him.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875775

John is pleb wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I dom't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight! It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

I'm pretty sure he was trying to cut down on the recents, I havent been as active but I dont see him rulebreak at all when I am there, and I know he doesn't want to get banned. Your also calling him a cunt when you don't even know him?

I said he acted like a cunt, I never called him one. Like I said, I'm sure he's a good guy and a great friend, but don't act all high and mighty as you laugh when you rip someone's suit and get banned because it was a blatantly dickish move that can almost definitely be called RDM.

Sorry, I'm sure he's a great guy and all that, but if you don't want it that peoplr call you out for acting like a cunt then simply don't act like one.

I do have to say that it is commenable for him to try to cut out the recents, it definitely shows some sort of respect, but I'd still like to see a massive attitude change from him, because this kinda stuff is just a dick move.

more than half of my recents are false but I don't bother to report them because I don't feel like wasting my time because an admin is being corrupt or does not know the rules

Then don't blame the system for banning you if you don't care enough to actually make sure that system is used fairly until it comes back to bite you.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875776

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I dom't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight! It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

I'm pretty sure he was trying to cut down on the recents, I havent been as active but I dont see him rulebreak at all when I am there, and I know he doesn't want to get banned. Your also calling him a cunt when you don't even know him?

I said he acted like a cunt, I never called him one. Like I said, I'm sure he's a good guy and a great friend, but don't act all high and mighty as you laugh when you rip someone's suit and get banned because it was a blatantly dickish move that can almost definitely be called RDM.

Sorry, I'm sure he's a great guy and all that, but if you don't want it that peoplr call you out for acting like a cunt then simply don't act like one.

I do have to say that it is commenable for him to try to cut out the recents, it definitely shows some sort of respect, but I'd still like to see a massive attitude change from him, because this kinda stuff is just a dick move.

It may be a dick move but karma is a bitch man.

All too true, I'm sure. Regardless I would just like to emphasise that I don't think John is a cunt, I simply stated he acted like one concerning this specific scenario. I don't know the guy but I'm sure there's nothing wrong with him.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875780

John is pleb wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I dom't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight! It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

I'm pretty sure he was trying to cut down on the recents, I havent been as active but I dont see him rulebreak at all when I am there, and I know he doesn't want to get banned. Your also calling him a cunt when you don't even know him?

I said he acted like a cunt, I never called him one. Like I said, I'm sure he's a good guy and a great friend, but don't act all high and mighty as you laugh when you rip someone's suit and get banned because it was a blatantly dickish move that can almost definitely be called RDM.

Sorry, I'm sure he's a great guy and all that, but if you don't want it that peoplr call you out for acting like a cunt then simply don't act like one.

I do have to say that it is commenable for him to try to cut out the recents, it definitely shows some sort of respect, but I'd still like to see a massive attitude change from him, because this kinda stuff is just a dick move.

It may be a dick move but karma is a bitch man.

All too true, I'm sure. Regardless I would just like to emphasise that I don't think John is a cunt, I simply stated he acted like one concerning this specific scenario. I don't know the guy but I'm sure there's nothing wrong with him.

WHY THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT!!!!!!!!!!

I know this is probably sarcastic but I just wanted to make it clear that this is nothing personal - I don't think you're a cunt so I don't want you to think that I think you're a cunt lol

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875782

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

Nikoo wrote:

Raeker wrote:

John is pleb wrote:

I don't think you read the entire thing, the PD raid was initiated when I killed him because of him being wanted with and m202 out

I read it. Your argument is automatically void, though, because he wasn't facing you. He wasn't a direct threat to you, not even in the slightest.

2.2 Random Death Match - In order to kill or harm another player you require a valid role-play reason to do so. Crossfire is not an excuse for killing people nearby where you are raiding or shooting. This rule always applies unless another rule calls for an exception.

- Examples of valid reasons to kill another player:
The player enters a highly restricted area such as the bank vault or back of PD.
The player kills an ally or friend of yours.
The player attempts to destroy or steal your property.
The player acts threatening towards you.

The keyword here is you. As long as the player shows no directly threatening behaviour you do not have a valid reason to kill them.

If somebody has a rocket launcher out next to you, your gonna tell me thats not threatening?

If the guy is a few feet facing away from you I would almost argue that is not immefiately threatening, but an important difference is that rocket launchers both deal more damage and have a higher area of attack (sorry it's 4 AM and my brain can't think of words), meaning people a few feet away from where the rocket lands can still be hurt by it. That is not the case here.

Besides, RPGs are a lot more intimidating than most other weapons, partly because of the possible damage they can cause.

He was pretty damn close to him with the M202.

I dom't know the context from this video and have no idea how everyone got where they are, but I would personally not feel threatened if someone was standing so far (or close) away from me, looking opposite of me carrying a firearm like that. Take that with a grain of salt if you so please, but the fact that he screams "Rip hyper rip hyper" doesn't help his case - if anything it only emphasises the idea that he did it purely to rip a suit and is now trying to loophole around the rules to get unbanned.

This is why I say he should fix his attitude. Not because I dislike him (I don't even know him) but because of his evasive attitude where he tries to pin the issue on other people without ever having to claim responsibility for his own actuons. He had eight recent punishments before getting banned. Eight! It isn't that hard to not get punished, you know, and if it were up to me he'd already have been banned around the 5th or 6th punishment.

At least be man enough to say "You know what, you're right: I acted like an entitled cunt. Sorry, I'll accept the punishment that was given to me." I have a lot more respect for people like that than people that think they can get away with breaking rules and complain when it backfires.

I'm pretty sure he was trying to cut down on the recents, I havent been as active but I dont see him rulebreak at all when I am there, and I know he doesn't want to get banned. Your also calling him a cunt when you don't even know him?

I said he acted like a cunt, I never called him one. Like I said, I'm sure he's a good guy and a great friend, but don't act all high and mighty as you laugh when you rip someone's suit and get banned because it was a blatantly dickish move that can almost definitely be called RDM.

Sorry, I'm sure he's a great guy and all that, but if you don't want it that peoplr call you out for acting like a cunt then simply don't act like one.

I do have to say that it is commenable for him to try to cut out the recents, it definitely shows some sort of respect, but I'd still like to see a massive attitude change from him, because this kinda stuff is just a dick move.

It may be a dick move but karma is a bitch man.

All too true, I'm sure. Regardless I would just like to emphasise that I don't think John is a cunt, I simply stated he acted like one concerning this specific scenario. I don't know the guy but I'm sure there's nothing wrong with him.

WHY THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT!!!!!!!!!!

I know this is probably sarcastic but I just wanted to make it clear that this is nothing personal - I don't think you're a cunt so I don't want you to think that I think you're a cunt lol

Hahah John has nothing against you don't worry lmao.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875813

I don't know why Niko has to speak for john, reading this whole thing was stupid.

It was rdm. And you can't class this as raiding the pd because none of you were inside of it, you ripped his suit and ran away yelling rip hyper rip hyper.

Whatever, you already know my opinion because I'm pretty sure I denied your last appeal. Take your punishment, and as raeker said, don't complain about the system that you seem to care less about. Maybe if you cared and put forth the effort, so would we. But if you couldn't care less, take your ban and deal with it.

Maybe don't try and be and be a dick head through the whole thing either, that would really up your chances.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875814

To be fair the balcony is a part of PD and yes, it is raidable. Who are you to say that he isn't raiding? Everyone can raid however they want and I didn't see any rule broken here, his intentions were to rip the suit, yes however it was a legal rip.	the illest satan Offline Legendary Member Figures and numbers, all in my account. Posts: 2283 Thanks received: 631 Karma: -15
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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875821

Jack. wrote:

To be fair the balcony is a part of PD and yes, it is raidable.

Who are you to say that he isn't raiding? Everyone can raid however they want and I didn't see any rule broken here, his intentions were to rip the suit, yes however it was a legal rip.

I don't know how you can even consider that raiding the pd when they all were just sitting on the balcony. There were no cops, there were no guns (besides the m202 from what I saw) until john pulled out a gluon and ripped the acs. No where was there indication of even an INTENT to raid the PD. So no, this really can't be considered a raid or even a backstab for that matter.

That makes no sense for this to be considered a raid and you all know it.

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875822

TheCorgi wrote:

Jack. wrote:

To be fair the balcony is a part of PD and yes, it is raidable.

Who are you to say that he isn't raiding? Everyone can raid however they want and I didn't see any rule broken here, his intentions were to rip the suit, yes however it was a legal rip.

I don't know how you can even consider that raiding the pd when they all were just sitting on the balcony. There were no cops, there were no guns (besides the m202 from what I saw) until john pulled out a gluon and ripped the acs. No where was there indication of even an INTENT to raid the PD. So no, this really can't be considered a raid or even a backstab for that matter.

That makes no sense for this to be considered a raid and you all know it.

well, if its part of the pd it can be considered a raid

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[SSRP] John is pleb's Ban Appeal 6 years 7 months ago #875856

TheCorgi wrote:

Jack. wrote:

To be fair the balcony is a part of PD and yes, it is raidable.

Who are you to say that he isn't raiding? Everyone can raid however they want and I didn't see any rule broken here, his intentions were to rip the suit, yes however it was a legal rip.

I don't know how you can even consider that raiding the pd when they all were just sitting on the balcony. There were no cops, there were no guns (besides the m202 from what I saw) until john pulled out a gluon and ripped the acs. No where was there indication of even an INTENT to raid the PD. So no, this really can't be considered a raid or even a backstab for that matter.

That makes no sense for this to be considered a raid and you all know it.

it's hyper btw not acs, acs is the white one that puts down force fields.