TOPIC: TTT Rant/Request for harsher punishments

Hello everyone,

I'm not really sure how to properly address this issue but my experience on the TTT Server (I believe 1.. the Europe Server) today wasn't a very pleasant one.

Now I'm already gonna announce that I do not have any proof of this whatsoever cause at the time I didn't plan on writing a forum post or anything about it because I don't usually take the game that seriously.

However, today made me kinda not wanna play on the server anymore and well before I "leave" without trying to see if anything can be done about what happened today, I thought I should make a forum post about it.

(5 Admins + 1 Super-Admin were on at the time of this incident.)


Sooo, down to business. Today I played, as mentioned, on TTT Server 1 and I pretty much got t-rdm'ed instantly. If I remember correctly the reason the person put at the time was "it is what it is" or something along those lines. So I didn't think anything of it.. just a regular TTT troll.

(I don't remember the exact timeline of events and whatnot because it's been a few hours and I had other stuff to attend to so I'll just somewhat sum it up..)

I then proceeded to get rdm'ed 5 times in a row .. Yes, the people have been slain and warned but 1 managed to do it 3 times and the other one did it twice before I believe they both left.
At that moment I was expressing my somewhat anger in voicechat because it's really no fun to just get rdm'ed every round.
I also asked in admin chat if anything can be done about the 2 rdm'ers because to me it just seemed like they can continue doing it untill they eventually get banned for too many warns? (Not sure how your system works. One of them did get kicked but was instantly able to rejoin)
They were also "trolling" me in voicechat pretty much making fun about killing me.
After I've been rdm'ed 3 times in a row by the 1 guy, a staff member (Kronen, Admin) finally opened a chat asking the person why he killed me. (Like really? Sorry but were you sleeping or something?)
Anyway, the rdmer said "for fun" and I didn't manage to see the rest of the chat because it was closed or they left(?) and I was in my t round.
After that I played a few more rounds and just left the server because the whole thing just put me in a bad mood.


With this post I kinda wanna express that I don't believe staff were paying enough attention to the situation and the punishments weren't good enough.

1 slay and 1 warn is just not gonna stop this stuff from happening especially if it's focused rdming.

These people probably either didn't like the fact that I am a girl, didn't like my voice or how much I talked and wanted to get a reaction out of me.
Which sadly at the time I gave them by talking about it and I suppose reporting them (which is the only way to "punish" them apparently).

I'll probably get comments like "Well, just don't talk" or "So talk less" but that's just not gonna happen. I'm not gonna let people like that stop me from playing the game how I wanna play it, especially if there is a mute button.

All I'm trying to say is that this kind of behaviour gets tolerated or just ignored too much and should just come with more punishments.

I do somewhat remember the names of the people or I can find them if needed but I don't want this to be a punishment request. I just want this topic to get some attention so something can maybe be done about it.

Sorry about my ranting.. at this point idk if it made any sense and this is probably a weird text layout but I wrote it on my phone.

Hello, I am very sorry that this happened to you on the server. From what I see things should've clearly been handled in a different way. From what you described it sounded like they mass RDMed so I don't get how the people only got one slay. Depending on how they act and if it seems that if their intentions are to harm others experiences on the server they can instantly get banned without having to wait for the "warn limmit". I'm pretty sure most of our staff know this but like you said I don't think they payed much attention.

What I think happened was that the staff were "busy" talking to other staff on TS and didn't really notice what happened, which I can do sometimes when speaking on team speak. Something else that usually happens is that when theres so many people on the staff can't tell what's who said what as everyone's speaking at the same time.

So what I'm trying to say is that there's nothing wrong with the system but it seems that the staff were distracted with something and didn't really notice what was going on. This shouldn't have happened and we'll work on it.

Im really sorry that you had such a bad experience today. I do remember you telling me that you got RDMed and I checked the RDM manager at that moment but another admin was dealing with that report. But yes, action should have been taken sooner.

I really hope you dont leave, youre a really nice person and you make the server more fun. You shouldnt feel like you should talk less at all and if anyone comments anything telling you to do so then screw them

I'm sorry for your bad experience but as Nay and Luki said when the server is busy its hard to say who's talking at the time and we can punish unless we are 100% sure who it was (to avoid falsely punishing), for the RDMs a slay and a warn is more than enough punishment and if the same person RDMs you round after round they will be banned for having too many recents in one day/short period of time. If it is multiple people we can only punish if they do it as we can ban for one RDM but we can keep a better eye out next time so we punish them quickly. I believe a lot of the staff team with a bit distracted due to certain thing.

I must admit we were not paying so much attention to voice chat and to the game. (At least I wasn't) There was a huge discussion in TeamSpeak and we mostly all got caught up in it. Now, this isn't an excuse so I'm sorry! as I already said next time just PM me and I'll look into it.

You are fun to be around and you make the server more fun so I'd encourage you to stay and play another day! I'll make sure next time to pay more attention! Sorry! (The rest has been said about the punishment system)

can you pretty please please please come play TTT with me?

I mean I have been on the teamspeak server while playing ttt and it's absolute chaos.
Everyone is talking over eachother and one can barely hear the ingame calls.
I feel like it's very insufficient for you guys to be in a teamspeak channel with ~ 10 people AND be
on ttt.
Yes, I can private message either one of you but I don't think that's the point and at least one of you should have heard me or at least seen my message in admin chat regarding yesterdays problem.
It wasn't just simple rdm. Getting rdm'ed 5 times by the same 2 people almost feels like harassment and for one of you to finally open the chat after the THIRD rdm only to ask "oh why did you kill mimi?" is just not enough.

I don't know.. maybe you just have to start paying more attention from now on.

MickyJS wrote: Simp

Sorry to hear about this. I think your name is mimi Mouse or something like that in game and I just about heard in game what was happening and it was happening to me aswell but not as much. The thing with voice chat is it never is the center of attention and is normally ignored because of the amount of people talking on behalf of the staff which were online it was partially not their fault on that one. The system of punishments is quite soft and it always has been. It has been able to keep players in their place and personally I think it should stay like it. Unfortunately it was your unlucky day and you were faced with multiple trollers which doesn't often happen and since 40 players play the server a lot of reports would of been coming in due to the amount. Meaning that staff were probably busy focusing on logs and in chats with them ect. Sorry about this incident and it shouldn't happen again.

Micky wrote:
reckon both of you's (micky and Mimi) should pretty please please please come play TTT with me?

Unlucky, for future refrence don't get rdm'd

Mimi wrote: That's very true. I think that what usually happens is that the TS channel starts out as just people trying to do their job. But then other people joins and it escalates to the point where there's 10 people on and nobody can get their job done. So that's a problem we have and we can work on.
Mimi wrote: That does sound like constant harrasment and targeting of a certain player (you) which is something that they should've been banned for. When rule break comes to the point of trying to make players feel bad, the rule breakers have nothing to do on the server and therefore we staff can dissregard the "7 warn limit" guide and ban them directly.

Also did you mention that they target harrased you in the reports? As it was clear that the staff who were on didn't notice what happened.

It sounds like what you're describing is harassment, which is something which should not be dealt with by staff in the general set of rules of warning and slaying for RDM. We take harassment very seriously, and when staff witness people harassing anyone, they should be utilising the ban command in situations like this. If you do believe people are harassing you and have proof to back it up, I would strongly recommend compiling these together and making a report for harassment - unfortunately, if there is a different staff member handling each report, they may not realise exactly what is going on, and some staff may forget that it is the same user every single time.

Luki_Guki wrote:
Just to add something if someone has 4 individual recent punishments in a single day we can ban them too.
But sure blatant trolls are ruining the game and should be banned.

I totally agree , 4 recents and he should be banned and make rdm 2 slays instead of 1.. getting sick of people like the ones described here. 3 rdms in a row should be a ban imo.

TheXnator wrote:
The problem is it happens way too often to me and I just don't wanna waste my time reporting each and every one of those people.
I guess I should have made it more clear to the staff that it was the same 2 guys constantly rdm'ing me.. but this is where the "being distracted on teamspeak" comes into play again.
That just shouldn't happen.. sure, talking to people on there is fun but when (I'm assuming) all of the admins online at the time are in a teamspeak with a bunch of other people, there just wont be much attention being paid to the game.

Anyway, this can be locked it you wish ^.^ just wanted to express my thoughts on what went wrong and suggest what could be done better.