TOPIC: [SSRP] ZARP Classic Server

Bopper wrote: not like we've been ignored for years on end or anything, and then when given "what we want" the whole point of it is entirely missed because a certain person is extremely stubborn and adverse to change when the only way to bring the ssrp community back is taking a risk

Plankton wrote: I want a reset so everyone actually has something to do and work for, this is gonna die out quick as a short term solution for something that is easy to fix which is use a new db and keep the old one on a separate servers for those who don't want to lose their precious golden items and such (zzz)

Clarky wrote: Gjugg zzz

What do you think the server should be called? (leave this blank if you like ZARP Classic):
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What map do you think the server should use? (Paste a Steam workshop link if possible):
[ANSWER] Evilmelon

What item(s) do you think should be banned/blacklisted from the server? (name as many as you like):

• ITEM 1
Golden suits

• ITEM 2
Golden Items

• ITEM 3
OP Boosterpacks

Any other information: About time someone took action..
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Oh, you guys just must hop overboard on everything if it isn't what "you want" don't you lmao.

Going to go through a couple of the points I have seen on here but overall, I think you are 100% all doing this for a nostalgia trip. However, if you can fully put out a plan and convince me how it is not going to go to shit, I will personally spend the months that it is going to take to set this shit up.

What happens when the server runs out of content what will happen then?
You will go screaming for us to add more things to the server and it all goes downhill from there because it isn't "old zarp" and you guys "ruined it". What happens it goes away from other people’s visions of the server and they leave should we go back again and try again because once again it is broken? How will that be prevented?

I have seen a lot of people suggesting that we ask the community what they would want and why we don’t want to do that anymore. So, I am going to put it straight you guys just don’t know what you want. We have had numerous polls on the forums and throughout the community and you guys just don’t follow through with what you vote on them. I am going to give the example of Bloc42, that shit was buggy af and you were warned about the state that it would have probably been in but you still insisted that it was put on the server then when it was on the server there was people actively trying to crash the server with the known issue that was within the server and it was voted to be removed within the first week.

I keep seeing you are arguing that you want people on even playing grounds but if we removed items wouldn't everyone be on the same ground because there is not much gap from the bottom to the top?

"Oh, removing content isn't that hard Just remove it 4Head”: Oh, damn imagine if I could click a button and everything does not break down in front of me, imagine if it was that easy. This is going to take a lot of time to do and even longer if I have to do it on my own so you better be putting some good damn reasons out there because honestly I have tried to stay off this thread for this reason but you have pushed me to actually comment on this thread

“Try getting a backup of the old gamemode that will work!”: Oh yes, I would love them exploits to come back on the server too! There has been so much code changed, exploits fixed, and other things changed that this will NOT work. Don’t even try to suggest it

“Ban alt accounts”: How do you think we could do that without hitting people that aren’t meant to be banned? Why would this even be a problem if you had to *actively* do something?

Just a couple of questions for you guys because obviously, you haven’t thought of the bigger picture.

How will this be funded in any way shape or form? Not to sugar coat it but the server cost money…
Once you keep creating items on top of items won’t you just get the same effect of people joining and being so outnumbered/overpowered that they leave? How would that be prevented?

This isn’t anywhere near a promise now it is me and chute that do the things for SSRP, (Yes Bunny Slippers you see 2 people not 4). I am off to uni in 3 weeks and this is not what I thought I would be discussing right now but I guess that is just life for you. Steam is here steamcommunity.com/id/deadmonstor GL

DEADMONSTOR wrote: all i need in my zarp life is jugg meta make jug suits great again fuck all the other suits and keep acs iswell

But what is so wrong with having a balanced server with all the weapons still in it, as long as everyone stands a chance and is able to obtain these items then I really don't see what the issue is. People don't know what they want and I have yet to see a well-made argument as to why a vanilla server would be better than balancing the server we already have.

luke_ wrote: cant balance without removing shit and then that causes more arguments cause people payed money for those items

DEADMONSTOR wrote: These are assumptions you are making really, how do you know things will not to go plan when it's our job to make sure nothing goes wrong in this concept in the first place? Some items that were added are just not friendly to new players and experienced players at all such as Mummy Suit, HC, K398, etc. They have cool concepts however it just doesn't work and is one of the many reasons why it is ultimately killing SSRP with the low player counts and how difficult it is to profit from anyone's prospective especially the new players. People really preferred the older meta and it's best we head to what made ZARP an amazing experience for everyone compared to how it is at the moment, it would actually have me play SSRP regularly again and many other players too because I have spoken to so many people in TS about our ideas and how they should be executed. Maybe we could have people come on ZARP TS and discuss in private what could be done and start noting down these ideas in the CM Team Onenote.
It works a lot better that way as you remember what happened last year in September when we had a community Q&A on TS because of the mass drama that happened and questions people wanted to ask us, people can explain a lot better about their thoughts and ideas directly and figure out ways altogether than just creating forum posts backwards and forwards.
We should do a better job at how we implement some of these items and how much of a impact it will have on the gameplay.

DEADMONSTOR wrote: Then what's the point of asking the community what they want? A lot of really good ideas were made with in-depth detail on some of them and we can't just stick with what we have right now and say "you guys don't know what you want", we need to start making significant changes ASAP or else the server will not last for so long as it's struggling to even hit 20 players sometimes, this is becoming a nothing to lose situation at this point since we've hit such a massive decline in players. Listen and execute what people are telling us regardless of how long it will take because there is no time limit, it will most likely work out in the end because SSRP is an amazing gamemode in itself so I personally think that the server will not quickly die off if we followed upon what some of these ideas are.
About Bloc42, nobody expected the crashing and how poorly optimized the map was assuming from lack of proper testing because why on earth would you want to use a map in such a poor state? We can say that for buggy PS addons too that crashed the PS servers, if we don't do in-depth testing on some of these things then of course shit is going to hit the fan.

DEADMONSTOR wrote: The problem I see at the moment is that people have a lot of the same item, remember when losing a TGun was actually a big loss? Nowadays it's whip out another one of the 500 someone owns from their bank and it becomes quite frustrating that there is no way to stop this from tackling you constantly hence why no one has any motivation to base (there is more reasons to this too but this is just one of the many).

DEADMONSTOR wrote: Read the posts that actually have thought and detail put into them, there are already good reasons sitting on this topic as we speak.

DEADMONSTOR wrote: IP checking and ensuring that it isn't just the same guy on an alt account. Of course people may be able to get away with this like literally any rule by using alternative ways to get away with it but it's time we try to enforce and tackle the mass alt accounts from being used as it's just very stupid having more than one alt on the server imo. Out of game trading, hacking, etc is something we can't always prove but here we are trying our best to prevent it from happening and I say we've done a pretty good job on some of the bust downs we have done.

DEADMONSTOR wrote: Pretty sure the server costs isn't a concerning issue but I can't say anything about this however we should change how we put items into the economy such as not having massive booster pack deals such as double boosters/special cases. It's great how you can get a special case per booster pack and one is enough in all honesty. Plus more in-depth testing and how it will affect gameplay too, we have two new CMs who can help us out with this now so we're able to have a diversity of ideas between the people who make the final decision on what should happen to an item and such.



I would appreciate a reply to this without trying to sound so hostile because there isn't any need to be mad or frustrated at any of this, we're trying our best to give ideas on what we can do for the future of SSRP. Probably made some grammar errors or whatever on here but I hope I've explained this as best as I possibly could.

DEADMONSTOR wrote: I'd say that some of the points I made are alright, but that is just me:

What do you think the server should be called? (leave this blank if you like ZARP Classic):


What map do you think the server should use? (Paste a Steam workshop link if possible):
The same map

What item(s) do you think should be banned/blacklisted from the server? (name as many as you like):

• airstrike
• m9k_nitro
• m9k_emp_grenade
• weapon_gluongun
• weapon_hand_cannon
• weapon_hoff_thundergun
• Orange Core Grenade Blueprint
• Magik Laser Pistol Blueprint
• GenCorp Spartan Laser Blueprint
• Orange Core Printer Blueprint
• Advanced Combat Suit Blueprint
• Nano Suit Blueprint
• Airstrike Blueprint
• Portable EMP Blueprint
• Thunderhammer Blueprint
• Hand Cannon Blueprint
• Thundergun Blueprint
• weapon_thunderhammer
• GenCorp Juggernaut Suit
• GenCorp Orange Core Printer
• weapon_scanmaster5000
• m9k_orangecore_grenade
• weapon_spartanlaser
• weapon_portableemp
• GenCorp Case
• Nano Suit
• weapon_ioncannon
• weapon_tacticalinsertion
• weapon_laserpistol2
• m9k_m303
• Advanced Combat Suit
• m9k_laserdagger
• Festive Box
• Hyper Suit
• Iridium Case
• Fire Box
• Golden Juggernaut Suit
• m9k_m202_golden
• weapon_scanmaster5000_golden
• weapon_k398
• EVO Suit
• Mummy Suit
• Skull Case
• weapon_gluongun_golden

Any other information:
-Remove everything that has power to destroy a base in seconds
-Remove every suit that has special op ability
-Wipe all players data except the vip and booster packs let the people who donated to use them in the future

DEADMONSTOR wrote:
ye if the entire point is missed and it's being made solely with the intenions of fixing the falsely perceived "problems" that members of the CM team see instead of fixing the problems that the community have complained about for years then of course people are going to jump ship, hf with a dead ssrp server if you're not willing to take risks at any stage and listen to what people actually want

whoever removed my reply ur pathetic

i mean dead hf flaming people who've been ignored by the cm team for years on end and then when finally given a glimmer of hope, still get ignored, because they definitely have no right to be frustrated or anything

do u not understand the frustration that this shit can cause, really blows my mind that u guys can actually think what ur doing is right or at all beneficial for the community, this server will achieve nothing without a separate database which i know isn't going to happen due to the arrogance of a few

sorIe wrote: this man said pretty much everything

sorIe wrote: No one even removed your post recently???

Clarky wrote: it got removed then restored

sorIe wrote:

DEADMONSTOR wrote:
Ok ex-ASAP developer, you're a professional at stealing content!!

Sam the Sausage wrote:
you don't know what you want!!! you stupid liberal!!11!!

It seems the right time has come to close this thread as a select few have chosen to ruin it for everyone by derailing the topic into insults rather than a discussion about the topic at hand.

There has been plenty of time for input though and good ideas, and a big thanks goes out to all those who gave their opinions. The Community Team will consider all those who have contributed in good spirit and with good ideas.

We want to also reassure people that the main SSRP servers and our Pointshop servers continue to be our primary focus though and me and DEAD & XNATOR will continue to be work on updates for these servers as a priority. We always enjoy working on content and new updates that come from user suggestions. Most of the big ideas on our servers come from suggestions so keep them coming!