DEADMONSTOR wrote: These are assumptions you are making really, how do you know things will not to go plan when it's our job to make sure nothing goes wrong in this concept in the first place? Some items that were added are just not friendly to new players and experienced players at all such as Mummy Suit, HC, K398, etc. They have cool concepts however it just doesn't work and is one of the many reasons why it is ultimately killing SSRP with the low player counts and how difficult it is to profit from anyone's prospective especially the new players. People really preferred the older meta and it's best we head to what made ZARP an amazing experience for everyone compared to how it is at the moment, it would actually have me play SSRP regularly again and many other players too because I have spoken to so many people in TS about our ideas and how they should be executed. Maybe we could have people come on ZARP TS and discuss in private what could be done and start noting down these ideas in the CM Team Onenote.
It works a lot better that way as you remember what happened last year in September when we had a community Q&A on TS because of the mass drama that happened and questions people wanted to ask us, people can explain a lot better about their thoughts and ideas directly and figure out ways altogether than just creating forum posts backwards and forwards.
We should do a better job at how we implement some of these items and how much of a impact it will have on the gameplay.

DEADMONSTOR wrote: Then what's the point of asking the community what they want? A lot of really good ideas were made with in-depth detail on some of them and we can't just stick with what we have right now and say "you guys don't know what you want", we need to start making significant changes ASAP or else the server will not last for so long as it's struggling to even hit 20 players sometimes, this is becoming a nothing to lose situation at this point since we've hit such a massive decline in players. Listen and execute what people are telling us regardless of how long it will take because there is no time limit, it will most likely work out in the end because SSRP is an amazing gamemode in itself so I personally think that the server will not quickly die off if we followed upon what some of these ideas are.
About Bloc42, nobody expected the crashing and how poorly optimized the map was assuming from lack of proper testing because why on earth would you want to use a map in such a poor state? We can say that for buggy PS addons too that crashed the PS servers, if we don't do in-depth testing on some of these things then of course shit is going to hit the fan.

DEADMONSTOR wrote: The problem I see at the moment is that people have a lot of the same item, remember when losing a TGun was actually a big loss? Nowadays it's whip out another one of the 500 someone owns from their bank and it becomes quite frustrating that there is no way to stop this from tackling you constantly hence why no one has any motivation to base (there is more reasons to this too but this is just one of the many).

DEADMONSTOR wrote: Read the posts that actually have thought and detail put into them, there are already good reasons sitting on this topic as we speak.

DEADMONSTOR wrote: IP checking and ensuring that it isn't just the same guy on an alt account. Of course people may be able to get away with this like literally any rule by using alternative ways to get away with it but it's time we try to enforce and tackle the mass alt accounts from being used as it's just very stupid having more than one alt on the server imo. Out of game trading, hacking, etc is something we can't always prove but here we are trying our best to prevent it from happening and I say we've done a pretty good job on some of the bust downs we have done.

DEADMONSTOR wrote: Pretty sure the server costs isn't a concerning issue but I can't say anything about this however we should change how we put items into the economy such as not having massive booster pack deals such as double boosters/special cases. It's great how you can get a special case per booster pack and one is enough in all honesty. Plus more in-depth testing and how it will affect gameplay too, we have two new CMs who can help us out with this now so we're able to have a diversity of ideas between the people who make the final decision on what should happen to an item and such.



I would appreciate a reply to this without trying to sound so hostile because there isn't any need to be mad or frustrated at any of this, we're trying our best to give ideas on what we can do for the future of SSRP. Probably made some grammar errors or whatever on here but I hope I've explained this as best as I possibly could.

[quote="DEADMONSTOR" post=1156423] What happens when the server runs out of content what will happen then? You will go screaming for us to add more things to the server and it all goes downhill from there because it isn't "old zarp" and you guys "ruined it". What happens it goes away from other people’s visions of the server and they leave should we go back again and try again because once again it is broken? How will that be prevented? [/quote] These are assumptions you are making really, how do you know things will not to go plan when it's our job to make sure nothing goes wrong in this concept in the first place? Some items that were added are just not friendly to new players and experienced players at all such as Mummy Suit, HC, K398, etc. They have cool concepts however it just doesn't work and is one of the many reasons why it is ultimately killing SSRP with the low player counts and how difficult it is to profit from anyone's prospective especially the new players. People really preferred the older meta and it's best we head to what made ZARP an amazing experience for everyone compared to how it is at the moment, it would actually have me play SSRP regularly again and many other players too because I have spoken to so many people in TS about our ideas and how they should be executed. Maybe we could have people come on ZARP TS and discuss in private what could be done and start noting down these ideas in the CM Team Onenote. It works a lot better that way as you remember what happened last year in September when we had a community Q&A on TS because of the mass drama that happened and questions people wanted to ask us, people can explain a lot better about their thoughts and ideas directly and figure out ways altogether than just creating forum posts backwards and forwards. We should do a better job at how we implement some of these items and how much of a impact it will have on the gameplay. [quote="DEADMONSTOR" post=1156423] I have seen a lot of people suggesting that we ask the community what they would want and why we don’t want to do that anymore. So, I am going to put it straight you guys just don’t know what you want. We have had numerous polls on the forums and throughout the community and you guys just don’t follow through with what you vote on them. I am going to give the example of Bloc42, that shit was buggy af and you were warned about the state that it would have probably been in but you still insisted that it was put on the server then when it was on the server there was people actively trying to crash the server with the known issue that was within the server and it was voted to be removed within the first week.[/quote] Then what's the point of asking the community what they want? A lot of really good ideas were made with in-depth detail on some of them and we can't just stick with what we have right now and say "you guys don't know what you want", we need to start making significant changes ASAP or else the server will not last for so long as it's struggling to even hit 20 players sometimes, this is becoming a nothing to lose situation at this point since we've hit such a massive decline in players. Listen and execute what people are telling us regardless of how long it will take because there is no time limit, it will most likely work out in the end because SSRP is an amazing gamemode in itself so I personally think that the server will not quickly die off if we followed upon what some of these ideas are. About Bloc42, nobody expected the crashing and how poorly optimized the map was assuming from lack of proper testing because why on earth would you want to use a map in such a poor state? We can say that for buggy PS addons too that crashed the PS servers, if we don't do in-depth testing on some of these things then of course shit is going to hit the fan. [quote="DEADMONSTOR" post=1156423] I keep seeing you are arguing that you want people on even playing grounds but if we removed items wouldn't everyone be on the same ground because there is not much gap from the bottom to the top?[/quote] The problem I see at the moment is that people have a lot of the same item, remember when losing a TGun was actually a big loss? Nowadays it's whip out another one of the 500 someone owns from their bank and it becomes quite frustrating that there is no way to stop this from tackling you constantly hence why no one has any motivation to base (there is more reasons to this too but this is just one of the many). [quote="DEADMONSTOR" post=1156423] "Oh, removing content isn't that hard Just remove it 4Head”: Oh, damn imagine if I could click a button and everything does not break down in front of me, imagine if it was that easy. This is going to take a lot of time to do and even longer if I have to do it on my own so you better be putting some good damn reasons out there because honestly I have tried to stay off this thread for this reason but you have pushed me to actually comment on this thread[/quote] Read the posts that actually have thought and detail put into them, there are already good reasons sitting on this topic as we speak. [quote="DEADMONSTOR" post=1156423] “Ban alt accounts”: How do you think we could do that without hitting people that aren’t meant to be banned? Why would this even be a problem if you had to *actively* do something?[/quote] IP checking and ensuring that it isn't just the same guy on an alt account. Of course people may be able to get away with this like literally any rule by using alternative ways to get away with it but it's time we try to enforce and tackle the mass alt accounts from being used as it's just very stupid having more than one alt on the server imo. Out of game trading, hacking, etc is something we can't always prove but here we are trying our best to prevent it from happening and I say we've done a pretty good job on some of the bust downs we have done. [quote="DEADMONSTOR" post=1156423] How will this be funded in any way shape or form? Not to sugar coat it but the server cost money… Once you keep creating items on top of items won’t you just get the same effect of people joining and being so outnumbered/overpowered that they leave? How would that be prevented?[/quote] Pretty sure the server costs isn't a concerning issue but I can't say anything about this however we should change how we put items into the economy such as not having massive booster pack deals such as double boosters/special cases. It's great how you can get a special case per booster pack and one is enough in all honesty. Plus more in-depth testing and how it will affect gameplay too, we have two new CMs who can help us out with this now so we're able to have a diversity of ideas between the people who make the final decision on what should happen to an item and such. I would appreciate a reply to this without trying to sound so hostile because there isn't any need to be mad or frustrated at any of this, we're trying our best to give ideas on what we can do for the future of SSRP. Probably made some grammar errors or whatever on here but I hope I've explained this as best as I possibly could.