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What made you stay? 5 years 21 hours ago #1111639

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What made you stay? 5 years 21 hours ago #1111643

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DEADMONSTOR wrote:
Okay I am ready to work on ssrp again, lets bump this and get suggestions coming in :)
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We have to link it you noob I am not going to search all day for it :(
zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/server-is...ll-pd-cases-to-arena

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/server-is...cses-in-golden-vault
maybe we should make acses much rarer now though
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What made you stay? 5 years 21 hours ago #1111644

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I remember seeing a video on ZARP in April of 2014 on townsend, it took me rewatching it a few months later to try it out. As soon as I joined I remember seeing this amazing map that I had never seen before, and there wasn't a SINGLE space that didn't have someone basing in it. I remember walking around and seeing all these people running shops, making cool houses, and I thought that it was the nicest thing. I remember when I found out that special weapons could actually destroy props, which was a feature that no other server had back then to my knowledge. I remember how great it felt to get my first million, to sneak into these mega gang bases and steal money from their printers in mansion and beach, and how it felt to own special weps. Truthfully the best memories come from 2015, when you seriously couldn't find a single building without something going on inside.

I've been here 4 years now, and I've seen hundreds of players come and go, their number one reason is something being too overpowered, no action except nukes, and some of the staff members being subpar or lazy. I can recall back in 2015 how amazing and dedicated the staff team was, no F1 went unanswered for more than 5 minutes. I miss the days when you could base on one side of the map with your huge gang, then on another side of the map another massive gang was basing. I miss caring about losing tguns, milkors, m202s, matadors and even rpgs, I miss the new players staying and working their way up together in their gangs. My idea of zarp was that any new player could join and become richer than anyone else, which nowadays simply can't be done.

I constantly give new players money in an attempt to make them stay on the server. But most of the time it doesn't work because they end up getting raided by experienced players with suits or special weapons. My advice to all of you guys, if you want the new players to stay on the server, help them out a bit. Don't raid their tiny bases, don't destroy their hidden printers on S2 or S3, don't ruin their fun in the first few days they join, otherwise they'll never come back. This server still has a ton of potential in my eyes, and it's these types of things that are driving new players away.

The number one thing that drives new players away however, is the sheer difficulty to get any sort of suit. This is a HUGE problem and it can't be like this forever.
thats actually how i remember joining too shops building houses etc.. and when born in blood was the shit everybody wanted to join them because they always had the best unraidable bases back than teamworks was the key :side:
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What made you stay? 5 years 21 hours ago #1111645

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What made you stay? 5 years 21 hours ago #1111651

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I remember seeing a video on ZARP in April of 2014 on townsend, it took me rewatching it a few months later to try it out. As soon as I joined I remember seeing this amazing map that I had never seen before, and there wasn't a SINGLE space that didn't have someone basing in it. I remember walking around and seeing all these people running shops, making cool houses, and I thought that it was the nicest thing. I remember when I found out that special weapons could actually destroy props, which was a feature that no other server had back then to my knowledge. I remember how great it felt to get my first million, to sneak into these mega gang bases and steal money from their printers in mansion and beach, and how it felt to own special weps. Truthfully the best memories come from 2015, when you seriously couldn't find a single building without something going on inside.

I've been here 4 years now, and I've seen hundreds of players come and go, their number one reason is something being too overpowered, no action except nukes, and some of the staff members being subpar or lazy. I can recall back in 2015 how amazing and dedicated the staff team was, no F1 went unanswered for more than 5 minutes. I miss the days when you could base on one side of the map with your huge gang, then on another side of the map another massive gang was basing. I miss caring about losing tguns, milkors, m202s, matadors and even rpgs, I miss the new players staying and working their way up together in their gangs. My idea of zarp was that any new player could join and become richer than anyone else, which nowadays simply can't be done.

I constantly give new players money in an attempt to make them stay on the server. But most of the time it doesn't work because they end up getting raided by experienced players with suits or special weapons. My advice to all of you guys, if you want the new players to stay on the server, help them out a bit. Don't raid their tiny bases, don't destroy their hidden printers on S2 or S3, don't ruin their fun in the first few days they join, otherwise they'll never come back. This server still has a ton of potential in my eyes, and it's these types of things that are driving new players away.

The number one thing that drives new players away however, is the sheer difficulty to get any sort of suit. This is a HUGE problem and it can't be like this forever.

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What made you stay? 5 years 21 hours ago #1111660

For me personally, it was the PVP action. I had spent a lot of time on this server trying to grind for a scope boost and other items, which gave a reason to keep playing in order to work for it. It was the difficulty and the same opportunity for everyone to get something, and everything was fair. I think what started ruining the experience, was when ZARP started to become very PTW, in order to have a chance at getting any of the suit or expensive item. It started becoming much easier to acquire rare items and upgrades, and when something gets too easy, it isn't as fun anymore.

I must say, although I miss the good old days where every PVP was based on your aim without relying on OP suits and special weapons, another big part to why I played so long was in order to get a suit. This was also a problem because as I stated before, It was definitely MUCH more difficult to be able to afford a suit if you did not spend any money on this game. To be honest, I was starting to get tired of making 1M a day in order to afford 300M suits, so I was actually going to quit. Then, this nice guy called Sinisters Grin gifted me a jugg. From this, I started to sell for higher, and buy cheap. If he didn't gift me a jugg, I probably would have quit the server about 2 years ago already. This is probably the case why many new players leave, because they don't find purpose in spending money on the server, but there isn't always someone to help them out in order to get items.

THEN again, I agree with the point that it's mostly all nostalgia of experiencing something when you discover it new. To be 100% honest, the usual PVP and stuff started getting very repetitive and I probably won't be playing to this day if there weren't any of the new content and suits that came out. I think right now, the problem is that anything is too easy to acquire if you spend money. People want to be able to acquire items which takes skill and time, and it's just annoying seeing inexperienced players being way richer than you by spending their parent's money.
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What made you stay? 5 years 21 hours ago #1111665

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I'd just like to add on to this, since I think it is more of a deep-rooted issue in the community itself than an issue with SSRP.

I feel like, over the course of the years, the staff team as a whole and also the long-term members of the community have just lost that incredibly friendly, fair and welcoming attitude that used to be around, which is one of the reasons that I originally joined the community.

This doesn't just fall under the area of staffing, but also development and just playing. I often find myself lacking the motivation to do anything, leading to many plans which go unfinished and are not added to the server, with missing features or just not entirely well-made due to a lack of the desire that I once had to absolutely pour everything I could into my work in the community,

Though I have improved in regards to both staffing and development a lot over the years, I notice that the work I can produce for other projects is a lot better quality than that which is produced in ZARP. I also find that I am more motivated to work on it and I enjoy it, rather than it feeling like a chore or a necessity, which is what I always want to have with what I work on. One of the main reasons I love to code, and the reason I came into staffing here as well. is because I have always found it to be something that I wanted to do and would just be able to sit down and absolutely devote myself to it, which various issues have ground down on over time.

It may of course just be accredited to burnout over time (since I haven't taken a break longer than a week or two since I started staffing in 2016), however I have never been one to suffer from burnout, and the way that things seem to go leads me to strongly believe that it is more of an issue with the community itself and the fact that there just isn't the same rewarding feeling from working in the community that there used to be.

I believe this is to do with the response that people have for the work that others do in the community nowadays. There used to be genuine happiness and gratitude that went towards work done for all people across the community, however that doesn't really seem to be the case as much now. There is more punishment than reward when it comes to staffing/development, and I think that leads a lot of staff not wanting to do F1s, people across the community losing motivation much quicker and a much more hostile attitude community-wide.
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What made you stay? 5 years 20 hours ago #1111668

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ArranAsh wrote:
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Okay I am ready to work on ssrp again, lets bump this and get suggestions coming in :)
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We have to link it you noob I am not going to search all day for it :(
Here ya go:
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What made you stay? 5 years 4 hours ago #1111877

Make crafting more viable and a very good money maker :)
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What made you stay? 5 years 3 hours ago #1111915

Honestly bring back the idea of skill, I’ve been around this community longer than majority of the players here nowadays I’ve experienced all kinds of fun and what worked and what didn’t, not even for me for majority of the player base the best times were when orbs or a M202 were the best weapon you could get, props didn’t disappear when broken they stayed like actual debris, gang wars were a thing and the best gangs were The ones with either the most players or best Aimers.

If you bring back the old SVU tell these shitty fucking suits to fuck right off I guarantee you Myself and multiple old players and people who love defending a base with pure aim and strategy, while the newer players print inside and still get their fun, it gives a range of players a feeling of fun rather than just the plebs who cant aim so they use a gluon and hyper. I’m not saying remove every new item, keep the tgun etc just remove suits that’s it keep the rest, so worse players can defend themselves and good players can have fun with out 1 tapping plebs like Aspect.
Seriously man we’ve been all fucking saying this for the longest time Chute doesn’t fucking care about any of that shit he just cares if his servers running and he’s making $. Give us what we’ve been asking for the last few fucking years and maybe this server wouldn’t be so shit, teleporting? Invisible? 2000 HP wtf? Just give us old fashioned aim battles but a balance for kids who use moms credit card for 100 booster packs. Replace the suits in people’s inventory with a good estimate gem/cash balance (both not just one so no one gets 100 bil) to satisfy the kids who blew their moms pay check on booster packs, but also give us the satisfaction of being able to raid a fucking base without mummy suits and shit.

You guys always say “let’s improve the server what do you guys want” we’ve been fucking telling you for year Jesus Christ, stop fucking complaining that the server is dying and actually put in some effort to at least ATTEMPT to give majority of the loyal players who were basically the foundation of this servers player base. The new ones can learn and adapt, majority of your players who come back are people who have been around since the old days. Fucking attempt a vanilla server and just watch the player base rise stop being so stubborn and trying to come up with new fucking flammable suits and shit just attempt something new not a suit being revamped. Fuck
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you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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What made you stay? 5 years 3 hours ago #1111918

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Honestly bring back the idea of skill, I’ve been around this community longer than majority of the players here nowadays I’ve experienced all kinds of fun and what worked and what didn’t, not even for me for majority of the player base the best times were when orbs or a M202 were the best weapon you could get, props didn’t disappear when broken they stayed like actual debris, gang wars were a thing and the best gangs were The ones with either the most players or best Aimers.

If you bring back the old SVU tell these shitty fucking suits to fuck right off I guarantee you Myself and multiple old players and people who love defending a base with pure aim and strategy, while the newer players print inside and still get their fun, it gives a range of players a feeling of fun rather than just the plebs who cant aim so they use a gluon and hyper. I’m not saying remove every new item, keep the tgun etc just remove suits that’s it keep the rest, so worse players can defend themselves and good players can have fun with out 1 tapping plebs like Aspect.
Seriously man we’ve been all fucking saying this for the longest time Chute doesn’t fucking care about any of that shit he just cares if his servers running and he’s making $. Give us what we’ve been asking for the last few fucking years and maybe this server wouldn’t be so shit, teleporting? Invisible? 2000 HP wtf? Just give us old fashioned aim battles but a balance for kids who use moms credit card for 100 booster packs. Replace the suits in people’s inventory with a good estimate gem/cash balance (both not just one so no one gets 100 bil) to satisfy the kids who blew their moms pay check on booster packs, but also give us the satisfaction of being able to raid a fucking base without mummy suits and shit.

You guys always say “let’s improve the server what do you guys want” we’ve been fucking telling you for year Jesus Christ, stop fucking complaining that the server is dying and actually put in some effort to at least ATTEMPT to give majority of the loyal players who were basically the foundation of this servers player base. The new ones can learn and adapt, majority of your players who come back are people who have been around since the old days. Fucking attempt a vanilla server and just watch the player base rise stop being so stubborn and trying to come up with new fucking flammable suits and shit just attempt something new not a suit being revamped. Fuck
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What made you stay? 5 years 3 hours ago #1111923

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Honestly bring back the idea of skill, I’ve been around this community longer than majority of the players here nowadays I’ve experienced all kinds of fun and what worked and what didn’t, not even for me for majority of the player base the best times were when orbs or a M202 were the best weapon you could get, props didn’t disappear when broken they stayed like actual debris, gang wars were a thing and the best gangs were The ones with either the most players or best Aimers.

If you bring back the old SVU tell these shitty fucking suits to fuck right off I guarantee you Myself and multiple old players and people who love defending a base with pure aim and strategy, while the newer players print inside and still get their fun, it gives a range of players a feeling of fun rather than just the plebs who cant aim so they use a gluon and hyper. I’m not saying remove every new item, keep the tgun etc just remove suits that’s it keep the rest, so worse players can defend themselves and good players can have fun with out 1 tapping plebs like Aspect.
Seriously man we’ve been all fucking saying this for the longest time Chute doesn’t fucking care about any of that shit he just cares if his servers running and he’s making $. Give us what we’ve been asking for the last few fucking years and maybe this server wouldn’t be so shit, teleporting? Invisible? 2000 HP wtf? Just give us old fashioned aim battles but a balance for kids who use moms credit card for 100 booster packs. Replace the suits in people’s inventory with a good estimate gem/cash balance (both not just one so no one gets 100 bil) to satisfy the kids who blew their moms pay check on booster packs, but also give us the satisfaction of being able to raid a fucking base without mummy suits and shit.

You guys always say “let’s improve the server what do you guys want” we’ve been fucking telling you for year Jesus Christ, stop fucking complaining that the server is dying and actually put in some effort to at least ATTEMPT to give majority of the loyal players who were basically the foundation of this servers player base. The new ones can learn and adapt, majority of your players who come back are people who have been around since the old days. Fucking attempt a vanilla server and just watch the player base rise stop being so stubborn and trying to come up with new fucking flammable suits and shit just attempt something new not a suit being revamped. Fuck
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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What made you stay? 5 years 2 hours ago #1111925

GmadTheH4cker wrote:
Honestly bring back the idea of skill, I’ve been around this community longer than majority of the players here nowadays I’ve experienced all kinds of fun and what worked and what didn’t, not even for me for majority of the player base the best times were when orbs or a M202 were the best weapon you could get, props didn’t disappear when broken they stayed like actual debris, gang wars were a thing and the best gangs were The ones with either the most players or best Aimers.

If you bring back the old SVU tell these shitty fucking suits to fuck right off I guarantee you Myself and multiple old players and people who love defending a base with pure aim and strategy, while the newer players print inside and still get their fun, it gives a range of players a feeling of fun rather than just the plebs who cant aim so they use a gluon and hyper. I’m not saying remove every new item, keep the tgun etc just remove suits that’s it keep the rest, so worse players can defend themselves and good players can have fun with out 1 tapping plebs like Aspect.
Seriously man we’ve been all fucking saying this for the longest time Chute doesn’t fucking care about any of that shit he just cares if his servers running and he’s making $. Give us what we’ve been asking for the last few fucking years and maybe this server wouldn’t be so shit, teleporting? Invisible? 2000 HP wtf? Just give us old fashioned aim battles but a balance for kids who use moms credit card for 100 booster packs. Replace the suits in people’s inventory with a good estimate gem/cash balance (both not just one so no one gets 100 bil) to satisfy the kids who blew their moms pay check on booster packs, but also give us the satisfaction of being able to raid a fucking base without mummy suits and shit.

You guys always say “let’s improve the server what do you guys want” we’ve been fucking telling you for year Jesus Christ, stop fucking complaining that the server is dying and actually put in some effort to at least ATTEMPT to give majority of the loyal players who were basically the foundation of this servers player base. The new ones can learn and adapt, majority of your players who come back are people who have been around since the old days. Fucking attempt a vanilla server and just watch the player base rise stop being so stubborn and trying to come up with new fucking flammable suits and shit just attempt something new not a suit being revamped. Fuck
One of the problems i see with this is that new players, and newer players than you actually enjoy the suits. I have been around a fair while (Nothing compared to some) and when i joined, there was no EVO's or Mummies. However there were other suits, but i still saw actual raiding with skill, tguns and drugs. I feel like some suits were okay, however they took it too far and its gone past the point of return. The suits are fun and were one of the main qualities of the servers.
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What made you stay? 5 years 2 hours ago #1111930

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GmadTheH4cker wrote:
Honestly bring back the idea of skill, I’ve been around this community longer than majority of the players here nowadays I’ve experienced all kinds of fun and what worked and what didn’t, not even for me for majority of the player base the best times were when orbs or a M202 were the best weapon you could get, props didn’t disappear when broken they stayed like actual debris, gang wars were a thing and the best gangs were The ones with either the most players or best Aimers.

If you bring back the old SVU tell these shitty fucking suits to fuck right off I guarantee you Myself and multiple old players and people who love defending a base with pure aim and strategy, while the newer players print inside and still get their fun, it gives a range of players a feeling of fun rather than just the plebs who cant aim so they use a gluon and hyper. I’m not saying remove every new item, keep the tgun etc just remove suits that’s it keep the rest, so worse players can defend themselves and good players can have fun with out 1 tapping plebs like Aspect.
Seriously man we’ve been all fucking saying this for the longest time Chute doesn’t fucking care about any of that shit he just cares if his servers running and he’s making $. Give us what we’ve been asking for the last few fucking years and maybe this server wouldn’t be so shit, teleporting? Invisible? 2000 HP wtf? Just give us old fashioned aim battles but a balance for kids who use moms credit card for 100 booster packs. Replace the suits in people’s inventory with a good estimate gem/cash balance (both not just one so no one gets 100 bil) to satisfy the kids who blew their moms pay check on booster packs, but also give us the satisfaction of being able to raid a fucking base without mummy suits and shit.

You guys always say “let’s improve the server what do you guys want” we’ve been fucking telling you for year Jesus Christ, stop fucking complaining that the server is dying and actually put in some effort to at least ATTEMPT to give majority of the loyal players who were basically the foundation of this servers player base. The new ones can learn and adapt, majority of your players who come back are people who have been around since the old days. Fucking attempt a vanilla server and just watch the player base rise stop being so stubborn and trying to come up with new fucking flammable suits and shit just attempt something new not a suit being revamped. Fuck
One of the problems i see with this is that new players, and newer players than you actually enjoy the suits. I have been around a fair while (Nothing compared to some) and when i joined, there was no EVO's or Mummies. However there were other suits, but i still saw actual raiding with skill, tguns and drugs. I feel like some suits were okay, however they took it too far and its gone past the point of return. The suits are fun and were one of the main qualities of the servers.
mummy made it even worse its literally unrippable if someone just have 1IQ, its the worst idea chute have ever had to be honest.
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you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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What made you stay? 5 years 2 hours ago #1111941

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GmadTheH4cker wrote:
Honestly bring back the idea of skill, I’ve been around this community longer than majority of the players here nowadays I’ve experienced all kinds of fun and what worked and what didn’t, not even for me for majority of the player base the best times were when orbs or a M202 were the best weapon you could get, props didn’t disappear when broken they stayed like actual debris, gang wars were a thing and the best gangs were The ones with either the most players or best Aimers.

If you bring back the old SVU tell these shitty fucking suits to fuck right off I guarantee you Myself and multiple old players and people who love defending a base with pure aim and strategy, while the newer players print inside and still get their fun, it gives a range of players a feeling of fun rather than just the plebs who cant aim so they use a gluon and hyper. I’m not saying remove every new item, keep the tgun etc just remove suits that’s it keep the rest, so worse players can defend themselves and good players can have fun with out 1 tapping plebs like Aspect.
Seriously man we’ve been all fucking saying this for the longest time Chute doesn’t fucking care about any of that shit he just cares if his servers running and he’s making $. Give us what we’ve been asking for the last few fucking years and maybe this server wouldn’t be so shit, teleporting? Invisible? 2000 HP wtf? Just give us old fashioned aim battles but a balance for kids who use moms credit card for 100 booster packs. Replace the suits in people’s inventory with a good estimate gem/cash balance (both not just one so no one gets 100 bil) to satisfy the kids who blew their moms pay check on booster packs, but also give us the satisfaction of being able to raid a fucking base without mummy suits and shit.

You guys always say “let’s improve the server what do you guys want” we’ve been fucking telling you for year Jesus Christ, stop fucking complaining that the server is dying and actually put in some effort to at least ATTEMPT to give majority of the loyal players who were basically the foundation of this servers player base. The new ones can learn and adapt, majority of your players who come back are people who have been around since the old days. Fucking attempt a vanilla server and just watch the player base rise stop being so stubborn and trying to come up with new fucking flammable suits and shit just attempt something new not a suit being revamped. Fuck
One of the problems i see with this is that new players, and newer players than you actually enjoy the suits. I have been around a fair while (Nothing compared to some) and when i joined, there was no EVO's or Mummies. However there were other suits, but i still saw actual raiding with skill, tguns and drugs. I feel like some suits were okay, however they took it too far and its gone past the point of return. The suits are fun and were one of the main qualities of the servers.
mummy made it even worse its literally unrippable if someone just have 1IQ, its the worst idea chute have ever had to be honest.
ACS Nano and Jug weren’t bad, everything else was *non discussable mental disorder* istic
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What made you stay? 5 years 1 hour ago #1111973

I miss the SM vs A-Team war along with Digital Insanity and Infamous

It’s all gone to shit in my opinion

I used to be excited to find a fully upgraded nuclear printer and I used to flex my milkors and m202’s on people, I can’t even flex my massive inventory nowadays or 4x gpps
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What made you stay? 5 years 1 hour ago #1111975

I feel as if the server popularity would increase if every new player's base didn't get pummeled each time they tried, not knowing what to expect.
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What made you stay? 4 years 11 months ago #1113407

Let me bump this and say what do you think should happen to the edf/golden edf I am getting some massive complaints on them that they are annoying to play against so let's hear your suggestions on it?
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What made you stay? 4 years 11 months ago #1113409

It shouldn't lose it's stats, it's a golden item and it's value is worth what it does. Just make it unequip on death and you have to wait 30 seconds to use it again in the next life. You also shouldn't be able to equip it in the middle of combat.
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What made you stay? 4 years 11 months ago #1113410

DEADMONSTOR wrote:
Let me bump this and say what do you think should happen to the edf/golden edf I am getting some massive complaints on them that they are annoying to play against so let's hear your suggestions on it?
honestly just need some sort of counterpart for gangsters with similar stats because cops get fucking ridiculous advantages:

1. edf/gedf - completely risk-free 200/200 or 400/400 with the only downside being u cant use other suits
2. armory free special weps
3. baton rushing - slam jumping baton rushing has become way too widely used and theres literally 0 counterplay other than zzzzzz crack house nukes

all while having the ability to use the exact same items as gangsters
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