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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228093

Keep in mind "You're not allowed to pay people to place hits as a Hitman this will be considered failrp."

Staff Member(s) Name: Morgan, Bruce

Staff Member(s) SteamID: STEAM_0:1:82175, STEAM_0:0:89993186

What did the Staff Member(s) do?: Bruce placed a hit on me while i was mining in hopes i would lose my pick so he could sell me another, i holestered in time and didnt lose it. He then waited and placed another, both times him and morgan both ran in simultaneously for the hit. The second time, the hit that made me lose my diamond pick, there was an advert about someone selling a diamond pick, the advert happened IMMEDIATELY after my death, and it was by non other then bruce.

What server(s) was this on?: SSRP 1

Evidence: (attached below)

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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228095

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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228097

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Those two (and a few more) were the reasons I stopped playing on ZARP. And you can't blame me for it either, who would want to play on a server with two high ranking staff members that just troll and break rules with no punishment because they are the "law". Even though I doubt it will happen because of the friendships between these two and higher ups, I would like to see some kind of action be taken against adminges.
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228100

Hepatyrus wrote:
+SUPPORT

Those two (and a few more) were the reasons I stopped playing on ZARP. And you can't blame me for it either, who would want to play on a server with two high ranking staff members that just troll and break rules with no punishment because they are the "law". Even though I doubt it will happen because of the friendships between these two and higher ups, I would like to see some kind of action be taken against adminges.
Actually they didn't break any rules in this case because

1. Morgan can kill anyone even if they are in his gang.
2. Morgan can't see gangtags on top of players heads
Also just because someone is trying to have fun in a way doesn't mean they need to be demoted, but maybe if they're breaking rules they will be talked to and possibly demoted.
Skatersfun your quote doesn't make sense.
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228102

Glacial_Subzero wrote:
Hepatyrus wrote:
+SUPPORT

Those two (and a few more) were the reasons I stopped playing on ZARP. And you can't blame me for it either, who would want to play on a server with two high ranking staff members that just troll and break rules with no punishment because they are the "law". Even though I doubt it will happen because of the friendships between these two and higher ups, I would like to see some kind of action be taken against adminges.
Actually they didn't break any rules in this case because

1. Morgan can kill anyone even if they are in his gang.
2. Morgan can't see gangtags on top of players heads
Also just because someone is trying to have fun in a way doesn't mean they need to be demoted, but maybe if they're breaking rules they will be talked to and possibly demoted.
Skatersfun your quote doesn't make sense.

If that quote didnt make sense, its the rules that don't make any sense as it was quoted straight out of the rules, He CANT kill in gang, but that is just a gang rule, he also can, and i know for a fact CAN see gangtags, especially when its IN my name, and just like what was quoted out of the rules, paying for someone to put a hit is failrp, therefor breaking rules
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228103

Glacial_Subzero wrote:
2. Morgan can't see gangtags on top of players heads

Yes, but don't MS-13 members put a big MS-13 tag in their name?
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228104

Skatersfun208x wrote:
Glacial_Subzero wrote:
Hepatyrus wrote:
+SUPPORT

Those two (and a few more) were the reasons I stopped playing on ZARP. And you can't blame me for it either, who would want to play on a server with two high ranking staff members that just troll and break rules with no punishment because they are the "law". Even though I doubt it will happen because of the friendships between these two and higher ups, I would like to see some kind of action be taken against adminges.
Actually they didn't break any rules in this case because

1. Morgan can kill anyone even if they are in his gang.
2. Morgan can't see gangtags on top of players heads
Also just because someone is trying to have fun in a way doesn't mean they need to be demoted, but maybe if they're breaking rules they will be talked to and possibly demoted.
Skatersfun your quote doesn't make sense.

If that quote didnt make sense, its the rules that don't make any sense as it was quoted straight out of the rules, He CANT kill in gang, but that is just a gang rule, he also can, and i know for a fact CAN see gangtags, especially when its IN my name, and just like what was quoted out of the rules, paying for someone to put a hit is failrp, therefor breaking rules
I just re-read the quote and understood it, since it's a gang rule nothing can be done about that. For the hitman paying someone to place hits im not gonna put anything since im not a staff member of zarp.
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228105

Glacial_Subzero wrote:
Skatersfun208x wrote:
Glacial_Subzero wrote:
Hepatyrus wrote:
+SUPPORT

Those two (and a few more) were the reasons I stopped playing on ZARP. And you can't blame me for it either, who would want to play on a server with two high ranking staff members that just troll and break rules with no punishment because they are the "law". Even though I doubt it will happen because of the friendships between these two and higher ups, I would like to see some kind of action be taken against adminges.
Actually they didn't break any rules in this case because

1. Morgan can kill anyone even if they are in his gang.
2. Morgan can't see gangtags on top of players heads
Also just because someone is trying to have fun in a way doesn't mean they need to be demoted, but maybe if they're breaking rules they will be talked to and possibly demoted.
Skatersfun your quote doesn't make sense.

If that quote didnt make sense, its the rules that don't make any sense as it was quoted straight out of the rules, He CANT kill in gang, but that is just a gang rule, he also can, and i know for a fact CAN see gangtags, especially when its IN my name, and just like what was quoted out of the rules, paying for someone to put a hit is failrp, therefor breaking rules
I just re-read the quote and understood it, since it's a gang rule nothing can be done about that. For the hitman paying someone to place hits im not gonna put anything since im not a staff member of zarp.

okay disregard the gang rule... in the Server Rules it says "You're not allowed to pay people to place hits as a Hitman this will be considered failrp." So I don't see how he isnt breaking rules when they were clearly plotting it and it says you CAN not do that.
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228109

Howdy skater, I have looked over your screenshots and your story and have come to the conclusion that the chat in the screenshots doesn't really prove that he broke the rules... Morgan has said that it was him and Bruce 'doing it' but that doesn't necessarily mean that they did it illegally. There is no proof that Morgan was asking Bruce or paying Bruce to place a hit on you. I will wait for Morgan or Bruce to reply to this and see what he will say before anything can happen about this.
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228115

Scottie012 wrote:
Howdy skater, I have looked over your screenshots and your story and have come to the conclusion that the chat in the screenshots doesn't really prove that he broke the rules... Morgan has said that it was him and Bruce 'doing it' but that doesn't necessarily mean that they did it illegally. There is no proof that Morgan was asking Bruce or paying Bruce to place a hit on you. I will wait for Morgan or Bruce to reply to this and see what he will say before anything can happen about this.

I don't think we are perceiving it the same way, he blatantly admitted to Bruce placing the hits, now how is it a coincidence or how do they not place something like that when Morgan happened to be in the mine, right next to Bruce both times a hit was placed.

If you take anything from this, please reconsider what im about to say. I confront Morgan and say I know what is going on, I say he is having bruce place the hits. And he replies with "Yeah me and bruce did it but i forgot you were in my gang haha go banker" (that there is already convicting himself IMO ) even after the first hit i told him we are in a the gang and its against gang rules, plus its in my name, he completely disregarded that to follow through with the plan, how else could someone be so oblivious to the many signs ive given him about us being in a gang, before hand I just brushed it off, ok cool he made a mistake. Then i went back to mining. But you know that the second time it happens there is something else going on.

But who am i kidding, Ive provided my evidence with my take on it, if you guys want to be biased in the way of him, i cant change that.
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228126

Scottie this is a report abuse against staff you cant handle it . Ill look into this when i get home from work
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228128

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Scottie this is a report abuse against staff you cant handle it . Ill look into this when i get home from work
Keep in mind this is also against Morgan, which is the same rank as you.
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228129

Glacial_Subzero wrote:
Skatersfun208x wrote:
Glacial_Subzero wrote:
Hepatyrus wrote:
+SUPPORT

Those two (and a few more) were the reasons I stopped playing on ZARP. And you can't blame me for it either, who would want to play on a server with two high ranking staff members that just troll and break rules with no punishment because they are the "law". Even though I doubt it will happen because of the friendships between these two and higher ups, I would like to see some kind of action be taken against adminges.
Actually they didn't break any rules in this case because

1. Morgan can kill anyone even if they are in his gang.
2. Morgan can't see gangtags on top of players heads
Also just because someone is trying to have fun in a way doesn't mean they need to be demoted, but maybe if they're breaking rules they will be talked to and possibly demoted.
Skatersfun your quote doesn't make sense.

If that quote didnt make sense, its the rules that don't make any sense as it was quoted straight out of the rules, He CANT kill in gang, but that is just a gang rule, he also can, and i know for a fact CAN see gangtags, especially when its IN my name, and just like what was quoted out of the rules, paying for someone to put a hit is failrp, therefor breaking rules
I just re-read the quote and understood it, since it's a gang rule nothing can be done about that. For the hitman paying someone to place hits im not gonna put anything since im not a staff member of zarp.

It used to be a server rule.
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228145

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Scottie this is a report abuse against staff you cant handle it . Ill look into this when i get home from work
Keep in mind this is also against Morgan, which is the same rank as you.

I am fully aware of this . Im handling bruce his part and will discus morgan with one of the owners
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228146

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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228150

The rule you're quoting is the "Bribing" rule.



I never paid Bruce to change to Hitman. I became a hitman, and killed players with hits on their heads. I told you to go to banker and said sorry because I realised you were in my gang and that I broke a gang rule. This happened two times over the course of 30 minutes, there was a hit placed on you and I claimed it, and both times I refunded you as I forgot you were a fellow gang member. In one of your screenshots, I pmed you saying "I'll pay you" this is where I realized you were in MS-13 after I killed you when you had a hit.

Judging by your previous posts on this report it sounds like you're wanting me to get in trouble with my gang, I refunded you but if you'd still like to have this dealt with speak with other committee members or make a post on the MS-13 gang thread.

For more clarification, I broke a gang rule twice, and refunded you for it around a week ago, don't know why this report is coming out so late but, I apologize for killing you in the mines again. It was an honest mistake and I forgot you were in my gang. There were no server rules broken.
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228153

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Deserves to be demoted? Tell me why he should.

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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228210

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I wouldn't say deserves to be demoted for breaking one rule, they would just talk to them about it not demote them for it

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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228217

Morgan wrote:
The rule you're quoting is the "Bribing" rule.



I never paid Bruce to change to Hitman, I went hitman, and killed players with hits on their heads. I told you to go to banker and said sorry because I realised you were in my gang and that I broke a gang rule, not a server rule. This happened two times over the course of 30 minutes, there was a hit placed on you and I claimed it, and both times I refunded you as I forgot you were a fellow gang member. Not sure how long ago this was, more than a week ago I believe.

Judging by your previous posts on this report it sounds like you're wanting me to get in trouble with my gang, I refunded you but if you'd still like to have this dealt with speak with other committee members or make a post on the MS-13 gang thread.

And there we get the truth
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Morgan and Bruce Abuse report 9 years 8 months ago #228281

Morgan wrote:
The rule you're quoting is the "Bribing" rule.



I never paid Bruce to change to Hitman. I became a hitman, and killed players with hits on their heads. I told you to go to banker and said sorry because I realised you were in my gang and that I broke a gang rule. This happened two times over the course of 30 minutes, there was a hit placed on you and I claimed it, and both times I refunded you as I forgot you were a fellow gang member. In one of your screenshots, I pmed you saying "I'll pay you" this is where I realized you were in MS-13 after I killed you when you had a hit.

Judging by your previous posts on this report it sounds like you're wanting me to get in trouble with my gang, I refunded you but if you'd still like to have this dealt with speak with other committee members or make a post on the MS-13 gang thread.

For more clarification, I broke a gang rule twice, and refunded you for it around a week ago, don't know why this report is coming out so late but, I apologize for killing you in the mines again. It was an honest mistake and I forgot you were in my gang. There were no server rules broken.

very well said morgan :)
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