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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214718

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Updating hacking policy
How would it benefit the server:
Less hackers and more happy zarp players
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So today and yesterday I have already seen up to 5 accounts hacking (aimbot bhop scripting, and spinbotting) It is really hard for admins to just look and do nothing while they have the powers to ban the hackers and the whole server is getting mad about the hacker. so my suggestion is to give perms to the admins again for banning hackers. The admins need video proof for the LT to show them this ban is valid and maybe train admins to learn how to deal with hackers? and show admins and moderators while they getting trained the hacking policy to what to do and ask what they need to do when they come across a hacker within the servers.

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214721

i mean admins have powers to ban last time i checked	maybedovahkitty Offline User is blocked Бог мертв Posts: 7710 Thanks received: 1225 Karma: -74
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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214722

The problem with this is that getting admin rank isnt hard at all. The pure amount of players you would see getting banned for no reason due to a mad or power hungry admin would be insane. Keep it as SA+. They deserve it.	Markus Offline Legendary Member Posts: 5349 Thanks received: 1634 Karma: -337
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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214723

The hacking policy will not be changed. I attempted to have it changed when I was LT/CM it didn't happen. I can see both sides of the argument. the best thing to do is just ban them for a hour when they rdm. they will soon get bored.	jack bushross Offline Former Community Manager Posts: 2155 Thanks received: 4929 Karma: 29
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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214724

Markus Chellwigg wrote: The problem with this is that getting admin rank isnt hard at all. The pure amount of players you would see getting banned for no reason due to a mad or power hungry admin would be insane. Keep it as SA+. They deserve it. so you get raided by a hacker would be funny when the LT needs to vote at the end of the week about this guy destroys the fun for new players?	Happy Offline Expert Boarder Dutch guy Posts: 1315 Thanks received: 259 Karma: 0
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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214725

Just because they are using cheats doesn't mean you can't punish them for the other rules they may be breaking, if possible gather evidence and pass it on to the Lead Team and from there the punishments will be extended.	Sally Offline Forum Administrator Can You Understand How Strange It Is To Be Alive? Posts: 7001 Thanks received: 3532 Karma: 61
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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214726

I feel like it’s fine how it is, there just needs to be a change for spinbotting lol, you pretty much just have to watch them do it and wait for them to break other rules. I feel like you should be able to perma ban someone for clearly spinbotting (WITH EVIDENCE) and then during the LT meeting, it will be decided if the ban is valid or not, If not it gets removed. But it would be really difficult for an admin to know if someone is cheating (since they cannot anticheat). The only way an admin can tell 100% that someone is cheating would be when they are blatantly spinbotting, so I feel like the way I mentioned would be a better solution.

Regarding what dovah said: Admins cannot punish people for hacking, only Super Admins and higher can.

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214730

bro you are suggesting something that is already a thing no need to say this when it happens but i really don't	Rittsu Offline Expert Boarder Posts: 1180 Thanks received: 334 Karma: -55
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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214731

Hiro. wrote:

I feel like it’s fine how it is, there just needs to be a change for spinbotting lol, you pretty much just have to watch them do it and wait for them to break other rules. I feel like you should be able to perma ban someone for clearly spinbotting (WITH EVIDENCE) and then during the LT meeting, it will be decided if the ban is valid or not, If not it gets removed. But it would be really difficult for an admin to know if someone is cheating (since they cannot anticheat). The only way an admin can tell 100% that someone is cheating would be when they are blatantly spinbotting, so I feel like the way I mentioned would be a better solution.

Regarding what dovah said: Admins cannot punish people for hacking, only Super Admins and higher can.

i mean if they admit you should be able to ban idk tho

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214732

I think there must be a way to let admins help more towards the server that's why I made this suggestion in the first place	Happy Offline Expert Boarder Dutch guy Posts: 1315 Thanks received: 259 Karma: 0
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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214733

maybedovahkitty wrote:

Hiro. wrote:

I feel like it’s fine how it is, there just needs to be a change for spinbotting lol, you pretty much just have to watch them do it and wait for them to break other rules. I feel like you should be able to perma ban someone for clearly spinbotting (WITH EVIDENCE) and then during the LT meeting, it will be decided if the ban is valid or not, If not it gets removed. But it would be really difficult for an admin to know if someone is cheating (since they cannot anticheat). The only way an admin can tell 100% that someone is cheating would be when they are blatantly spinbotting, so I feel like the way I mentioned would be a better solution.

Regarding what dovah said: Admins cannot punish people for hacking, only Super Admins and higher can.

i mean if they admit you should be able to ban idk tho

You still can’t, I got talked to about a year ago for kicking someone that admitted to cheating (they were spinbotting)

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214734

Hiro. wrote:

maybedovahkitty wrote:

Hiro. wrote:

I feel like it’s fine how it is, there just needs to be a change for spinbotting lol, you pretty much just have to watch them do it and wait for them to break other rules. I feel like you should be able to perma ban someone for clearly spinbotting (WITH EVIDENCE) and then during the LT meeting, it will be decided if the ban is valid or not, If not it gets removed. But it would be really difficult for an admin to know if someone is cheating (since they cannot anticheat). The only way an admin can tell 100% that someone is cheating would be when they are blatantly spinbotting, so I feel like the way I mentioned would be a better solution.

Regarding what dovah said: Admins cannot punish people for hacking, only Super Admins and higher can.

i mean if they admit you should be able to ban idk tho

You still can’t, I got talked to about a year ago for kicking someone that admitted to cheating (they were spinbotting)

oh shit that sucks they should change it like if they admit to cheating you can ban/kcik

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214736

Hiro. wrote:

I feel like it’s fine how it is, there just needs to be a change for spinbotting lol, you pretty much just have to watch them do it and wait for them to break other rules. I feel like you should be able to perma ban someone for clearly spinbotting (WITH EVIDENCE) and then during the LT meeting, it will be decided if the ban is valid or not, If not it gets removed. But it would be really difficult for an admin to know if someone is cheating (since they cannot anticheat). The only way an admin can tell 100% that someone is cheating would be when they are blatantly spinbotting, so I feel like the way I mentioned would be a better solution.

Regarding what dovah said: Admins cannot punish people for hacking, only Super Admins and higher can.

Hacking is always a kick first anyways but if they are spin botting they are most likely mass rdming and you are able to deal with that.

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214737

Sefa kinda gay tbh	Knuthulhu Offline Legendary Member ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posts: 579 Thanks received: 213 Karma: 11
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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214742

Sally wrote:

Just because they are using cheats doesn't mean you can't punish them for the other rules they may be breaking, if possible gather evidence and pass it on to the Lead Team and from there the punishments will be extended.

This is the best way to deal with people using cheats on our servers - if they are not breaking other rules with their cheats however, you must stick to the policy and I doubt it will ever be changed.

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214772

If done properly this might work but it would take so much effort and eventually it will go wrong.	JoshuaIsGreat Online Diamond Boarder 3^ the Serb Posts: 3627 Thanks received: 1549 Karma: -236
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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214774

Happy wrote:

Markus Chellwigg wrote:

The problem with this is that getting admin rank isnt hard at all.
The pure amount of players you would see getting banned for no reason due to a mad or power hungry admin would be insane. Keep it as SA+. They deserve it.

so you get raided by a hacker would be funny when the LT needs to vote at the end of the week about this guy destroys the fun for new players?

lol. you dont need a hacker to destroy fun for new players the server itself and certain gangs do that already

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214777

Happy wrote:

Markus Chellwigg wrote:

The problem with this is that getting admin rank isnt hard at all.
The pure amount of players you would see getting banned for no reason due to a mad or power hungry admin would be insane. Keep it as SA+. They deserve it.

so you get raided by a hacker would be funny when the LT needs to vote at the end of the week about this guy destroys the fun for new players?

Literally any admin that care about how Zarp's doing would already take action and ban or jail the kid to discourage him from coming back again.
Don't tell me theres never admins on, there's always staff on, nuance is they don't give a fucking shit about f1's being made, they are too busy nuking or doing dumb shit.

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214779

What could be done is this....
Add a button to the tab menu (Request anticheat). This would be for admins+. With this the user who requests it will not have access to viewing it. It will post it into a private discord or on a third party website ran by Zarp. The only people who will have access to this will be sa+ as usual. From this the Admin+ wont be able to see methods or the screengrabs itself. Meaning nothing will be leaked. After being reviewed the sa+ can tell the admin to ban them if they have visuals.

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[All servers] Updating hacking policy 4 years 5 months ago #1214781

jack bushross wrote:

What could be done is this....
Add a button to the tab menu (Request anticheat). This would be for admins+. With this the user who requests it will not have access to viewing it. It will post it into a private discord or on a third party website ran by Zarp. The only people who will have access to this will be sa+ as usual. From this the Admin+ wont be able to see methods or the screengrabs itself. Meaning nothing will be leaked. After being reviewed the sa+ can tell the admin to ban them if they have visuals.

Genius! That is a really good system.