TOPIC: SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server

Aspect wrote:
I believe I already mentioned that the only way for us to really find out is through simply going through with it, so I'm on your side in that case.

I was simply trying to make you aware of certain things because from the way you conveyed yourself it looked like you were overlooking some of the things I talked about earlier. This might be an error on my end, though, because I generally don't want to spend too much time on these threads and I might have brushed over some of the things you've said previously.

Addressing your second argument, do you remember Jailbreak? That idea sure was good in theory but it did not go well in practice. And while your server idea might sound good, that doesn't mean it will turn out good when executed either. This argument in particular just seems pointless on your end and it doesn't really further the discussion. We both said it; we can only find out how it fares in practice, so let's dismiss this argument completely.

Anyway, your third argument/paragraph is a good response, I like it. It shows that you actually have taken the necessary measures to prevent what I previously mentioned; good job on that. That gives me a fair bit of hope for the server, and I can trust that you're probably aware of most of the things I'd mention in the future.

I'll shift the focus of my arguments to interesting features and improvements to the server itself in the future since it seems like my arguments on the welfare of the server aren't really required anymore.

TL;DR: Seems like we agree on most things, just miscommunication on both ends. We're both aware of the risks and I just wanted to make sure of that. Also, I'm glad you're focused on taking the measures to ensure nostalgia isn't a part of the equation.

@RealDenis: Virtually all ZARP servers have used some form of Gmodstore content, bighead. You don't actually accomplish anything by posting it here.

Sure, but would have to be made well and to the highest quality.
Would have to be managed and ran well.
Would have to have a lot of dedication from the community and staff teams.

bump that shit

DEADMONSTOR wrote: In the most constructive way possible, you used a loy of words to say absolutely nothing in that first paragraph. The second paragraph however makes me hopeful. I definitely don’t think that disabling explosives a couple of days a week would have the same effect as a whole new server.

You say a new server would take a lot of time and effort but you have to work to achieve things. I understand that Zarp has become an easy money generator over the last 1-2 years which needs little to no maintenance but the work you have been doing is most definitely putting a stop to this mindset. This repetitive cycle of Chute’s absolutely shit updates with recycled content is not making the community any happier, I believe this might, so put your effort into this instead.

Sorry if I’m really incoherent, I’m extremely tired

EmptyMagz wrote: Could of used a better video than a hypocrite's, just saying :^)

EmptyMagz wrote:
Though the video you've linked is quite hard to watch and Skeleton is pretty shit (and a hypocrite); it's still a problem, and something that I'm aiming to solve. There would never be stupid 2k hp suits with 0 tradeoffs like that. Thanks for your opinion.

EmptyMagz wrote: What does that image have to do with anything, you're not making very much sense

Clarky wrote:
I believe he's trying to say the server is dead. It hasn't been the case ever (to my knowledge) ever since Chuteuk took over Zarp that we've seen difficulties finding new admins over a week, and that a Legacy server would be healthy for Zarp.

EmptyMagz wrote: Although the server gets around 30+ players everyday, I understand it's a decrease in comparison to the other years but we have plenty of ideas to help out new players and adding some core game play stuff to do that will hopefully come to the server - ever since October 2018, we have released 9 updates and overhauled quite a lot of things already so we are trying our best to make SSRP enjoyable again and that's why DEAD made a topic asking for honest feedback. A legacy SSRP server will simply not happen at this moment and I cannot speak if it will happen in the future but this is how we want to keep things with our SSRP servers at the moment.

I feel like this server should have the jugg before they got buffed, especially so we can have another I JUST LOST MY FUCKING JUGG SUIT

pretty cool

Nikoo wrote:
There wouldn't be any suits at first and if it wasn't enough content on the server we would probably look to add suits. I have some pretty good ideas for making sure it never goes to the extent where it feels unfair. The better player will always win over time, and if there are worse players with a bigger arsenal they may have the advantage at but they'll lose it all in the long run.

I also aim to set certain limits to make sure people don't just pull out another jugg + tgun whenever they die. I don't see gluon guns happening either, ever.

It's an interesting perspective, this. I remember making solid memes about Zarp being eco-friendly because of this. A lot of motivation was lost with a Case that gives you a case from a previous update. To top that you have even worse odds of opening that hyper suit you really wanted because you got a gencorp case instead.

I had a lot of fun playing the server with the creative updates such as when the wheel was first introduced, or maybe when explosives themselves came to the server. The odds of getting a steam game with the wheel was pretty much 1/3 and I ended opening either that or a gencorp case. After they adjusted the odds so you basically had 1/100 of getting what you wanted it got a lot more boring to play and the grinding became too repetitive.

Y'all mind if I bump this because I think this is a really important talking point in the community and something that should be considered if nothing else.

Narexa wrote:

I don’t know why you are pouring lots of time into this because if it did get excepted they have all the previous game mode versions...

_Max wrote:
I don't understand sir

Narexa wrote:
Pretty sure what he means is that chute still has all the versions of SSRP from before any updates. So if he wanted he could host a server with say stuff only up to the hyper suit easter update or even earlier versions of it. So technicaly I guess he could just load up one of the earliest versions where milkors and M202 were the best items you could get.

Jool wrote:
Ohhh okay, if anything that's a good thing though

_Max wrote:
I did ask the owners and they said that they would have to pour into lots of time themselves into remaking old school Zarp because those versions have bugs in them for instance. This I've done is also somewhat of a revamp so it's not really a copy. It's more of a gamemode derived from the Zarp with its own style.

It has been one of their main excuses from their side, which is the reason this project was born.