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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113335

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Who are these dumbos voting no? :? :? :?

Chute and his followers :evil:

(Chute has basically convinced the rest of the lead team that the server is fine and that legacy would only split the player base etc)
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113337

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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113340

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No but your staff image will be this

Not gonna lie it kinna fresh do :blink:
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113344

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No but your staff image will be this

Not gonna lie it kinna fresh do :blink:

Dude what the fuck, I thought spoilers weren't allowed??!?!?!
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113350

The front-end on most of these things could definitely be improved, I'd be able to help with that if it's necessary.

Also, I'd suggest perhaps deviating from the "legacy" concept and rather focusing on making a DarkRP server that perhaps values different things than what is currently on our main SSRP servers. Perhaps you could go the SRP route and create a more serious roleplaying experience like PERP, so we can give them some competition and attract players from that general player-base.

I think a legacy server isn't exactly what's necessary so I vote no on that idea itself, but if you elaborate on the server itself and shift the focus to something different than our current servers - (try something that would attract a new player-base rather than our current SSRP player-base) - I'm all for trying something new in that regard.

Anyhow, it seems like you've put some good effort into the showcase of the server so I wish you good luck nonetheless, I hope you take some of my criticism and use it to create something great. Have fun! ¨

P.S. I might edit this post later to elaborate.
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113370

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The front-end on most of these things could definitely be improved, I'd be able to help with that if it's necessary.

Also, I'd suggest perhaps deviating from the "legacy" concept and rather focusing on making a DarkRP server that perhaps values different things than what is currently on our main SSRP servers. Perhaps you could go the SRP route and create a more serious roleplaying experience like PERP, so we can give them some competition and attract players from that general player-base.

I think a legacy server isn't exactly what's necessary so I vote no on that idea itself, but if you elaborate on the server itself and shift the focus to something different than our current servers - (try something that would attract a new player-base rather than our current SSRP player-base) - I'm all for trying something new in that regard.

Anyhow, it seems like you've put some good effort into the showcase of the server so I wish you good luck nonetheless, I hope you take some of my criticism and use it to create something great. Have fun! ¨

P.S. I might edit this post later to elaborate.

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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113371

if I wanted another separate SSRP server it'd honestly just be permanent mega 3 months summer 2017 because that was by far the most fun time for me, and I'm sure many people who played at the time could agree
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113372

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if I wanted another separate SSRP server it'd honestly just be permanent mega 3 months summer 2017 because that was by far the most fun time for me, and I'm sure many people who played at the time could agree

Then again, it will inevitably become repetitive at some point so we'd need to implement updates to the server to keep it fresh and going. Not necessarily updates that bring new items to the game, but gameplay updates that can spice things up every now and then.
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113373

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if I wanted another separate SSRP server it'd honestly just be permanent mega 3 months summer 2017 because that was by far the most fun time for me, and I'm sure many people who played at the time could agree

Then again, it will inevitably become repetitive at some point so we'd need to implement updates to the server to keep it fresh and going. Not necessarily updates that bring new items to the game, but gameplay updates that can spice things up every now and then.

yeah theres no real way any legacy server or something similar wouldn't just become stale
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113377

Honestly thats a good idea.
But a good idea not always end up being popular or shid like that.
If a legacy server is being introduced in the community it will definetly end up like the murder server.
Peoples will get bored.
You can't force a new generation of players, which is 70% of the entire active community to get thrown back in the days to feel what Zarp used to be.
They will get bored very fast, and sadly peoples will never stick up to the server, because the generation of old school players is gone.
A PERP or a serious RP server would definetly be a better choice and will be popular as Prop Hunt and TTT.
Because this will eventually atract a new generation of players if Zarp adds the Zarp touch.
What i mean by "Zarp touch" is something like suits & special weapons introduced on SSRP.
It could be either specials addons made by the devs or idk, a Zarp touch that will make the serious RP server unique to atract new players.
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113381

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Honestly thats a good idea.
But a good idea not always end up being popular or shid like that.
If a legacy server is being introduced in the community it will definetly end up like the murder server.
Peoples will get bored.
You can't force a new generation of players, which is 70% of the entire active community to get thrown back in the days to feel what Zarp used to be.
They will get bored very fast, and sadly peoples will never stick up to the server, because the generation of old school players is gone.
A PERP or a serious RP server would definetly be a better choice and will be popular as Prop Hunt and TTT.
Because this will eventually atract a new generation of players if Zarp adds the Zarp touch.
What i mean by "Zarp touch" is something like suits & special weapons introduced on SSRP.
It could be either specials addons made by the devs or idk, a Zarp touch that will make the serious RP server unique to atract new players.

Any good server should have exclusive content. Special weapons aren't precisely perfect for a PERP-type server, but there are always other things to implement. We should look at what PERP(heads)- and other servers have and then match it.

In fact, we don't merely want to match the biggest PERP server(s) but we also want to add something to make our own server stand out. We'll have to think of things to add onto the server that are unique- and that will give players a reason to come to OUR server and not any other servers.

I haven't too much of an idea on what features PERP servers do and don't have, but I'll be sure to look into it some time to see if I can help with some ideas!
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 1 day ago #1113539

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The front-end on most of these things could definitely be improved, I'd be able to help with that if it's necessary.

Also, I'd suggest perhaps deviating from the "legacy" concept and rather focusing on making a DarkRP server that perhaps values different things than what is currently on our main SSRP servers. Perhaps you could go the SRP route and create a more serious roleplaying experience like PERP, so we can give them some competition and attract players from that general player-base.

I think a legacy server isn't exactly what's necessary so I vote no on that idea itself, but if you elaborate on the server itself and shift the focus to something different than our current servers - (try something that would attract a new player-base rather than our current SSRP player-base) - I'm all for trying something new in that regard.

Anyhow, it seems like you've put some good effort into the showcase of the server so I wish you good luck nonetheless, I hope you take some of my criticism and use it to create something great. Have fun! ¨

P.S. I might edit this post later to elaborate.


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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 23 hours ago #1113574

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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 16 hours ago #1113635

Rick Johnson wrote:
The front-end on most of these things could definitely be improved, I'd be able to help with that if it's necessary.

Also, I'd suggest perhaps deviating from the "legacy" concept and rather focusing on making a DarkRP server that perhaps values different things than what is currently on our main SSRP servers. Perhaps you could go the SRP route and create a more serious roleplaying experience like PERP, so we can give them some competition and attract players from that general player-base.

I think a legacy server isn't exactly what's necessary so I vote no on that idea itself, but if you elaborate on the server itself and shift the focus to something different than our current servers - (try something that would attract a new player-base rather than our current SSRP player-base) - I'm all for trying something new in that regard.

Anyhow, it seems like you've put some good effort into the showcase of the server so I wish you good luck nonetheless, I hope you take some of my criticism and use it to create something great. Have fun! ¨

P.S. I might edit this post later to elaborate.

I read all your comments but I'm replying to this one. To start of I was probably the only one who knew Jailbreak was going to die (ask mexi lol). The entire community anticipated that Jailbreak was gonna be great and had huge support from the entire community, but few weeks later it was dead. The Jailbreak game mode itself was repetitive, you didn't progress anyhow and there was a lack of updates etc.

It doesn't really matter if we have old school Zarp players coming to play or not. The SSRP game mode itself was intriguing back then, why else did those old school players play that in the first place?

There are a lot things I have planned for the server. I only showcased the overall content but there is a lot more to it. It's not super important that things stay fresh constantly (just look at current ssrp servers), rather it's important that the overall game mode is fun to play for a longer time. I haven't finished everything yet so I don't want to disclose those details.

The UI will be updated over time, but we need to adapt and have players sharing feedback on how it feels to be using it first and then change towards that.

Also why would anyone want to put an effort into Perp? That game has so much custom shit and it probably took them years to build. Also it has a more serious game mode so it's 10x harder to maintain a serious emersion. I am sorry but I don't trust that Zarp community overall knows what they're talking about after the Jailbreak meme, my opinion only.
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 16 hours ago #1113636

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if I wanted another separate SSRP server it'd honestly just be permanent mega 3 months summer 2017 because that was by far the most fun time for me, and I'm sure many people who played at the time could agree

At this point why not have a x5 server instead, similar to what some Rust servers have, which focuses less on the grinding and more on the gameplay, that should interest both new and old players.

Grinding is a core part of what makes SSRP fun, it's going to take a long time to obtain all items on this server, and once they achieved those, there will be more things. Of course there will be ways to donate and speed up progress, not pay2win though.
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 16 hours ago #1113637

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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 15 hours ago #1113640

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if I wanted another separate SSRP server it'd honestly just be permanent mega 3 months summer 2017 because that was by far the most fun time for me, and I'm sure many people who played at the time could agree

Then again, it will inevitably become repetitive at some point so we'd need to implement updates to the server to keep it fresh and going. Not necessarily updates that bring new items to the game, but gameplay updates that can spice things up every now and then.
People complained it was repetitive after a week, doesn't mean it wasn't fun even after 3 months
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 15 hours ago #1113646

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The front-end on most of these things could definitely be improved, I'd be able to help with that if it's necessary.

Also, I'd suggest perhaps deviating from the "legacy" concept and rather focusing on making a DarkRP server that perhaps values different things than what is currently on our main SSRP servers. Perhaps you could go the SRP route and create a more serious roleplaying experience like PERP, so we can give them some competition and attract players from that general player-base.

I think a legacy server isn't exactly what's necessary so I vote no on that idea itself, but if you elaborate on the server itself and shift the focus to something different than our current servers - (try something that would attract a new player-base rather than our current SSRP player-base) - I'm all for trying something new in that regard.

Anyhow, it seems like you've put some good effort into the showcase of the server so I wish you good luck nonetheless, I hope you take some of my criticism and use it to create something great. Have fun! ¨

P.S. I might edit this post later to elaborate.

I read all your comments but I'm replying to this one. To start of I was probably the only one who knew Jailbreak was going to die (ask mexi lol). The entire community anticipated that Jailbreak was gonna be great and had huge support from the entire community, but few weeks later it was dead. The Jailbreak game mode itself was repetitive, you didn't progress anyhow and there was a lack of updates etc.

It doesn't really matter if we have old school Zarp players coming to play or not. The SSRP game mode itself was intriguing back then, why else did those old school players play that in the first place?

There are a lot things I have planned for the server. I only showcased the overall content but there is a lot more to it. It's not super important that things stay fresh constantly (just look at current ssrp servers), rather it's important that the overall game mode is fun to play for a longer time. I haven't finished everything yet so I don't want to disclose those details.

The UI will be updated over time, but we need to adapt and have players sharing feedback on how it feels to be using it first and then change towards that.

Also why would anyone want to put an effort into Perp? That game has so much custom shit and it probably took them years to build. Also it has a more serious game mode so it's 10x harder to maintain a serious emersion. I am sorry but I don't trust that Zarp community overall knows what they're talking about after the Jailbreak meme, my opinion only.

I suppose we'll just have to see how the server turns out then. I'm frankly just saying that if you want to avoid Chute's arguments of "splitting the fanbase" perhaps a PERP-like server would be something to consider, or even a different game mode overall because if you already know Chute opposes legacy servers then, honestly, what's the point?

Also, I'd like to point out that I didn't actually have an opinion at all when Jailbreak came around, so distrusting me on that basis is just false lol
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 15 hours ago #1113647

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if I wanted another separate SSRP server it'd honestly just be permanent mega 3 months summer 2017 because that was by far the most fun time for me, and I'm sure many people who played at the time could agree

Then again, it will inevitably become repetitive at some point so we'd need to implement updates to the server to keep it fresh and going. Not necessarily updates that bring new items to the game, but gameplay updates that can spice things up every now and then.
People complained it was repetitive after a week, doesn't mean it wasn't fun even after 3 months

Yes, it will definitely be fun after one year of running it won't be stale after that at all! It might be fun for a while but with no actual updates to the gameplay to keep it fun & fresh, I don't see why players wouldn't just migrate back to SSRP 1-3 again.
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SSRP Suggestion - Legacy Server 5 years 12 hours ago #1113675

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if I wanted another separate SSRP server it'd honestly just be permanent mega 3 months summer 2017 because that was by far the most fun time for me, and I'm sure many people who played at the time could agree

Then again, it will inevitably become repetitive at some point so we'd need to implement updates to the server to keep it fresh and going. Not necessarily updates that bring new items to the game, but gameplay updates that can spice things up every now and then.
People complained it was repetitive after a week, doesn't mean it wasn't fun even after 3 months

Yes, it will definitely be fun after one year of running it won't be stale after that at all! It might be fun for a while but with no actual updates to the gameplay to keep it fun & fresh, I don't see why players wouldn't just migrate back to SSRP 1-3 again.
Because they would instead complain how much that server is boring
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