TOPIC: [TTT] All weapons suggestion

Nick0GR wrote:

That takes a lot of effort, I hope this gets considered.

Some stuff i have to say

Mossberg changes were to harsh

Damage decrease quite a lot and magazine size decrease .

One of them not both , its so trash to use it now its not fun

Longshot wrote:
Mossberg has been re buffed since the initial update. It will now hit for 66 on a body shot and still one shots to the head. After playing with it for a bit now it is in a good spot and do remember that a lot of the other strong mid range weapons also got nerfed.

Miia wrote:
Alright thanks for clearifying some things up, though I still have to dissagree with the tec 9 problem, indreasing recoil and decresing damage would make it a more of short ranged gun and there also making it harder for people using the tec 9 to shoot somebody in the back and kill him in a second. The mossberg winning at midrange battles is a good sing because that shows balance, when it comes to balance in a game it doesn't mean that every gun should deal the same damage, it just means that different guns are good at differend situations. Mossberg = mid range. Tec-9 =short range, Contendor= long range.

Luki_Guki wrote: The issue with that is that the current design behind the tec is that it should be a gun you use to delete a player quickly, the recoil should not have been lowered as now it makes it way too consistent when killing. The amount of players using the tec has already gone down, i would not like to see any further damage reduction to it. Tec should stay as it is now, a weapon i can use to quickly delete 1 player, in a good situation 2 and no more.

As for the mossberg winning mid range fights being good for balance, to some extent yes but it was deemed to be winning way too often when compared to a lot of other weapons and a lot of players had complained about it. Given that a few strong midrange weapons have also been toned down, like the uzi and sten, if the mossberg did not receive any nerf it would jump straight to being over powered.

Weapons are quite a tricky thing to change, so I cannot comment on those, but just like you I disagree with the DNA scanner changes. I often find it incredibly dificult to accuratly determine who I am supposed to shoot at. I've also never heard anyone complain about the DNA scanner being overpowered in some way - I do not believe a nerf was needed here.

Raeker wrote: ikr it's already way too hard to use

Luki_Guki wrote:
Keep in mind a lot of the changes have directly affected by the efficiency such as Deadshot and Juggernaut.

Let me begin with saying that the reason Headshot Multipliers were changed was simply to put weapons using the same caliber on the same playing field. An example being SMGs do less Damage and have less of a Headshot Multiplier, but they have a faster fire rate which allows them to pump out rounds quicker than say the AK-74.
Overall, the Headshot Multiplier change doesn't affects weapons such as you listed Snipers. They still instantly kill on a Headshot. An example would be the Contender which has the lowest Damage done by a sniper which is 50, it's Headshot Multiplier is 3. 50*3=150 Meaning you'll still instantly kill, so I don't understand why this is that big of a problem when you still instantly kill. The only time you wouldn't instantly kill is if you have negative karma, even then it'd have to be quite a bit. I did go over these weapons many of times and a lot of them just require fine tuning, things like the Luger received a bump in other areas but lost some damage, which could be easily made up with getting headshots due to the increase of it's multiplier.

Fire rate for the Python and Deagle can be lowered, but you need to remember that fire rate is directly connected to your Time to Kill, if you make things to long, people won't want to use it. However, I will look at these weapons and see what can be done for them.

Your suggestion on the Silenced Glock is literally just removing changing the fire rate and damage around. Meaning it'll fire slower, but do more damage. Once again, another weapon that could require some fine tuning, but from a gameplay perspective, it's damage could be bumped up, but remember that it is silenced and has a fast fire rate. As it stands it would take 7 shots to the body to kill with this weapon, not including the random factors of missing, a limb or headshot, which does seem like a lot. I'll look into uping it's damage to about 20(ish) and we'll go from there.

The problem with your Tec-9 suggestions is that it puts it back in line of being an actual primary weapon. I don't know how many times I've stated this, but this should NOT be used as a primary. It's the only one of it's kind secondary wise, if you're in a pinch this weapon will most likely get you out of it, but it doesn't mean you can take on several people at once anymore with it. This weapon is meant to be used point blank, otherwise you run the risk of recoil mixing with it's accuracy for a ton of missing rounds as it always has been, but giving it double the ammo for 5 less bullet damage and .25 more recoil won't keep this weapon in the place it should be in. It's not a primary weapon like everyone wants to utilize it as, there are plenty more weapons you can utilize if you want actual primary weapons, as the Tec-9 should be used as a self-defence or point blank combat type of weapon.

M98B had a damage nerf due to Deadshot being able to allow it to one shot kill to a body shot. On top of which the mag reduction was done to put it in more of a stable place as a sniper and less of a semi-auto rifle that people would just repeatedly fire cause it had twice the amount of ammo in one mag than the M24. This'll allow people going up against this weapon to actually move and not just force them to stay in hiding forever because they know this weapon has a massive mag size.

Remington and the Jackhammer I've been told is a tad to strong right now and could see a damage reduction in the nearby future, primarily at the Jackhammer since it is a mag fed shotgun, this'll be looked into as time goes on.

Mossberg was and still will be amazing at mid-range fights, but due to it's reduced ammo count it'll be subjected to having to be reloaded sooner, giving those who are going up against it a chance to actually push on them.

AK-74 I'll keep an eye on.

Terror Tech utilizes the shotgun headshot range mechanic which is simply the further away you are, the less damage it'll do when a headshot is made. The terror tech really wasn't touched in this as it's more or less balanced depending on the situation, but this is a mechanic that should be on this weapon as it's basically a cross of a Assault Rifle/Shotgun.

Unless someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the Charge Rate increase actually made it easier for the charging to be done. It was a small buff, not a nerf.

As always, thank you for the feedback!

I know Bezzy already responded but the thread isnt locked so I'll voice my support

Slifer The Sky Dragon wrote: