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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831189

At least let the staff team into it so they can know when to punish someone ! :plussp:
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831191

Nick0GR wrote:
At least let the staff team into it so they can know when to punish someone ! :plussp:

The staff team already has it and if you don't then msg me on steam and I'll link it
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831195

2fast4you wrote:
You are litteraly showing players exactly what to do to exploits, same as telling exactly what words to say to be racist in the server rules...doesn't work out man
zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/24-2-sand...eathrun-server-rules
If those players do end up exploiting it is the staff members duties to make sure this is avoided in the future. Currently a lot of staff members including lead team and users are confused about what is an exploit and the definition, so having a detailed explaination on the rule and what are exploits can counter act the rule breaks. Think about this carefully, how often do you see someone exploiting compared to disrespect? To me it is really rare to see an exploit compared to disrespect.
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831196

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2fast4you wrote:
Jim_Jam wrote:
2fast4you wrote:
Jim_Jam wrote:
2fast4you wrote:
You are litteraly showing players exactly what to do to exploits, same as telling exactly what words to say to be racist in the server rules...doesn't work out man

Your job as staff is to punish the players that break these rules. Stopping users from understanding what an exploit is on our server just because you are too scared of them using them/too lazy to do your duties is stupid.

They need to know what they cannot do on the server.

We aren't staff here only to punish players from rulebreaking
But to completely prevent someone for doing a rulebreak. showing ppl how to rulebreak isn't our job

As you can see here deathrun has a fine set of rules, and one of them is exploiting, new players can see what an exploit is on the official rules of deathrun


2.92 - Exploiting / Trap Avoiding
Exploiting unintentional map faults to benefit yourself or others is prohibited. You're allowed to use intentional map features to avoid 1 trap but avoiding 2 or more traps in a single motion/feature is not allowed.

Correct, so lets explain what we see as an "Intentional Map Feature", every server is different.

Or the staff could have it and when *rarily* a player does an exploit we let them know that it's not allowed and never to be seen again, instead of 9/10 of all players either are doing the exploits to troll or just for testing, cause none of them are by accidents if they have a list of them
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831198

2fast4you wrote:
Nick0GR wrote:
At least let the staff team into it so they can know when to punish someone ! :plussp:

The staff team already has it and if you don't then msg me on steam and I'll link it
This is the thing, users would now know what they did that was wrong, if they do not know this they can be falsely punished for the staff members mistake for not informing them on the rules.
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831199

Which is why there's a nice !motd command where they can read the rules top to bottom
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831202

i remember annie warning me when I first joined for exploiting, was my only warning.


its stupid not to add this!

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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831203

If you make it public, you also tell everyone every single exploit.
But if you tell someone that something that they are doing is an exploit, and they start arguing, you can also show this as proof
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as it would make it easier and avoid a lot of confusion
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831204

2fast4you wrote:
Which is why there's a nice !motd command where they can read the rules top to bottom
motd does not show what are exploits and what aren't (map related).
In the exploit rule it goes on about skipping traps etc, I know exploits such as on Helix when you can walk along the blade and kill deaths. How're users mean't to know that is an exploit if it goes on about skipping traps?
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831229

Absolutely a great idea!

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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831236

2fast4you wrote:
You are litteraly showing players exactly what to do to exploits, same as telling exactly what words to say to be racist in the server rules...doesn't work out man

No offence yeah but u realise how dumb you sound right? The exploit list needs to be public so people know what map skips aren't allowed. The reason we have staff are to enforce it so if people do troll it and proceed to do the exploits then that means that the staff team might actually have to do something remotely close to there job this 100% needs to be public otherwise if I get warned for exploit for doing a skip which is consider an "exploit" without my knowledge then how is that fair to me or any player it happens to this is the best suggestion since the gangs one bitch please crying because u will have to actually do your staff role and punish people

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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831237

Then someone needs to update the rules!
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831287

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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831318

Can we keep drama off of this thread, it is just a simple request for the staff members to think about, not a stupid debate about who is a good staff member.
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831325

Micky wrote:
Can we keep drama off of this thread, it is just a simple request for the staff members to think about, not a stupid debate about who is a good staff member.

Yes sir sorry sir it's just they don't seem to understand this will benefit both users and staff and if users use the list the server is suppost to have capable staff to deal with it... this point is valid as users deserve to know what they can and can't do on each map
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831332

This is not a place to argue amongst yourselves, it is a place to discuss the suggestion at hand.

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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831456

Back to topic, if you do publicise this list then people can indeed exploit. The rules say that exploits only occurs when people use a feature to skip 2 or more traps. Just to clarify that rule.
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831599

Do you guys understand what this is not a drama thread is? So grow up and post constructivly or just leave the post alone.
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831601

Annie Montana wrote:
Back to topic, if you do publicise this list then people can indeed exploit. The rules say that exploits only occurs when people use a feature to skip 2 or more traps. Just to clarify that rule.
The rules state you may only skip 1 tho?
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[Deathrun] Suggestion 6 years 8 months ago #831604

Annie Montana wrote:
Back to topic, if you do publicise this list then people can indeed exploit. The rules say that exploits only occurs when people use a feature to skip 2 or more traps. Just to clarify that rule.
If you scroll up you will see the example I gave for an exploit. The rule does not cover every single exploit nor does the list I am 100% sure, this is the fact you guys are missing. Please take your time to read over some of the points I made (PROPERLY).
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