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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292319

Staff Member(s) Name: Sarah

Staff Member(s) SteamID: In screenshot!

What did the Staff Member(s) do?: RDA. Didn't knew this rule
- Carrying a gun in your hotbar is illegal and warrants an arrest, excluding pistols and gang weapons.
- Carrying a gun in your hands is illegal and warrants an arrest, including gang GUNS but excluding pistols.

After it happened I just told Sarah what happened and that weapons in your hotbar are NOT illegal, then he said I had my weapon(tommy gun) out and shot with it. Indeed I did this, but then again, there's no rule against have someone seen with a weapon out and allowed to arrest him for it then. first I didn't want to make this demote request because it could be some fun or joking around, but when I realized hat Sarah didn't knew the rule I was shocked.
Then I asked for confirmation to Morgan, which confirmed it that it's not arrestable when having a gang weapon in your hotbar.

What server(s) was this on?: SSRP 1

Evidence: I have a video and I'd like to share it with the person who's handling this!

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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292322

I dont know why mods want to demote eachother for just not knowing a rule..
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292323

if i understand this correctly . you got arrested when you put your tommy gun in your hotbar just after she saw you holding it? .

If this is the case she had all the right to arrest you as you were producing a fire arm in public.

Im a little confused why you do not share the video on your topic because it is confusing me right now
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292326

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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292327

sythe wrote:
I dont know why mods want to demote eachother for just not knowing a rule..
Because they're staff and they are meant to know the rules lol
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292333

K bro wrote:
sythe wrote:
I dont know why mods want to demote eachother for just not knowing a rule..
Because they're staff and they are meant to know the rules lol

Well there are many rules and if a Moderator doesn't know a small rule then I think it's not a reason to demote them.
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292338

sythe wrote:
K bro wrote:
sythe wrote:
I dont know why mods want to demote eachother for just not knowing a rule..
Because they're staff and they are meant to know the rules lol

Well there are many rules and if a Moderator doesn't know a small rule then I think it's not a reason to demote them.

There's no such thing as team work and in its place, it is the survival of the fittest.
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292340

K bro wrote:
sythe wrote:
I dont know why mods want to demote eachother for just not knowing a rule..
Because they're staff and they are meant to know the rules lol
Exactly this. As I stated I didn't want to make the demote request, just was going to tell it to him, but after even telling it he denied it fully and said it was not a RDA. So the rule isn't very clear for one of us.ParaMontana wrote:
if i understand this correctly . you got arrested when you put your tommy gun in your hotbar just after she saw you holding it? .

If this is the case she had all the right to arrest you as you were producing a fire arm in public.

Im a little confused why you do not share the video on your topic because it is confusing me right now
I just don't want to share my YouTube account which has personal information to everyone out in the open ;-)
But there's no rule for arresting someone with a weapon in their hands and then holstering/putting in your hotbar.
Not sure how to formulate this in English.
Slapy47 wrote: Yes, Slapy, that's the exact rule :) I had NO weapon out at the time of arrest. Neither did I had any illegal weapon in my hotbar(only gang weapons)
sythe wrote:
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sythe wrote:
I dont know why mods want to demote eachother for just not knowing a rule..
Because they're staff and they are meant to know the rules lol

Well there are many rules and if a Moderator doesn't know a small rule then I think it's not a reason to demote them.
Read my OP a bit, there's no need to make a demote request on everything or so, I talked to Sarah first, but completely denying it or telling to 'leave me alone' is not how it works. I wanted to talk to him just to inform about the rule, but he didn't want to listen, just denying the fact completely. Not even wanting to talk is a bit weird imo. As a staff team we should be able to talk to each other, not ignoring each other and telling them to leave them alone if they want to have a talk with you or give you a tip.
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292341

Joe, We're a staff Team. If you see someone break a rule don't just go ahead and report them like come on man, I thought better of you but then obviously not. Re-Direct yourself to Keith's post about staff breaking rules, You really should read that again, As you should only report someone if it's a major rule that they've broken not just a minor Random Arrest when personally I think she was right to do so.

Taking all of this into consideration, perhaps the best way to define teamwork is: when a group of people work together cohesively, towards a common goal, creating a positive working atmosphere, and supporting each other to combine individual strengths to enhance team performance.

And for godness sake, She's a Girl.
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292344

Jordan Johnston wrote:
Joe, We're a staff Team. If you see someone break a rule don't just go ahead and report them like come on man, I thought better of you but then obviously not. Re-Direct yourself to Keith's post about staff breaking rules, You really should read that again, As you should only report someone if it's a major rule that they've broken not just a minor Random Arrest when personally I think she was right to do so.

Taking all of this into consideration, perhaps the best way to define teamwork is: when a group of people work together cohesively, towards a common goal, creating a positive working atmosphere, and supporting each other to combine individual strengths to enhance team performance.
That's what I've said in my OP.
But if you don't want to talk to your fellow staff members it's something different. I always talk to staff members first or speak to them what they've done wrong or need help with. And most listen or at leas acknowledge what they've done, but in this case Sarah didn't at all. Just was a bit too cocky and thought she knew it better. Everyone makes mistakes, just don't ignore people just because they're a rank lower as you, that shouldn't even matter at all.
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292354

You had a gun out and you were firing it in the air, I saw you, you holstered it but the fact you had committed a crime by having the gun out and firing it in public means you can be attested.

Holstering the weapon doesn't change the fact that a cop saw you committing a crime.

We discussed this at length in admin chat to the point I got confirmation on the rule from another admin then eventually had Morgan tell you in admin chat it wasn't RDA.

Looking up there Para had just confirmed it too. Thats 2 head admins now confirming you're wrong.
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292359

Saaaaarah wrote:
You had a gun out and you firing it in the air, I saw you, you holstered it but the fact you had committed a crime by having the gun out and firing it in public means you can be attested.

Holstering the weapon doesn't change the fact that a cop saw you committing a crime.

We discussed this at length in admin chat to the point I got confirmation on the rule from another admin then eventually had Morgan tell you in admin chat it wasn't RDA.

Looking up there Para had just confirmed it too. Thats 2 head admins now confirming you're wrong.
All I've read is that weapons in a hotbar ain't arrestable and there's no rule for arresting someone who shot in the air and then hosltered it/put in hotbar(gang weapons only) if there's one please point me to that rule, could be I read over it. You ignored it and didn't want to talk about it, that's more my problem ;-)
At the time of arrest I didn't had my weapon out. The rule might not be clear then.
-Weapons in a hotbar are illegal excluding gang weapons
And I had it in my hotbar.
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292360

Seems like some people still don't understand we are a team, as many posts have said before i do not think that this is really enough to make a demote thread about, this could have easily been solved if you had just spoke to Sarah on steam about this, rather than bringing it up in a demotion thread.
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Sarah Demote request 8 years 9 months ago #292362

This really isnt RDA as you commited the crime and was witnessed by a police officer doing so. Just because you put the weapon away doesn't mean you had not broken the law you still got the gun out.

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