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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133718

So, I told James Stone that I'm going to give him my base dupe for 380k. He said he will give me the cash after I give him the base dupe and after I gave him the dupe this is what he said:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=443921123
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P.S. He's in my gang.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133721

I don't see the problem.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133722

Scamming in-game is allowed, but however i will refund you the amount of $380,000 in-game cash from my own money.

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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133723

Thank you so much Pred. Appreciate it.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133724

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Thank you so much Pred. Appreciate it.

This what happens when you have someone else's darkrp signature Bilbo!
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133725

This server does allow you to scam each other as it is allowed
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133727

Yeah, I knew that already, but he was a gang member from my gang, so I thought that might change the story. :unsure:
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133744

Technically, the player has still broken the rules. He is a police officer, and the rules for that job state that they are there solely to keep the streets free of crime. That means that he should never have been in a position to scam another citizen, as that is a criminal act in its self.



I would like this to be revisited.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133771

Chris wrote:
Technically, the player has still broken the rules. He is a police officer, and the rules for that job state that they are there solely to keep the streets free of crime. That means that he should never have been in a position to scam another citizen, as that is a criminal act in its self.



I would like this to be revisited.
First of all the printer safe is disconnected props. Second of all there is no proof of him giving the money, neither being scammed. Aka the rulebreak itself. Its only chat logs, it is lack of evidence for both the rulebreak and the money lost. Im just trying to be nice and give him money from my own wallet.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133776

Bilbo Swaggins wrote:
Chris wrote:
Technically, the player has still broken the rules. He is a police officer, and the rules for that job state that they are there solely to keep the streets free of crime. That means that he should never have been in a position to scam another citizen, as that is a criminal act in its self.



I would like this to be revisited.
First of all the printer safe is disconnected props. Second of all there is no proof of him giving the money, neither being scammed. Aka the rulebreak itself. Its only chat logs, it is lack of evidence for both the rulebreak and the money lost. Im just trying to be nice and give him money from my own wallet.

You have a duty to actually investigate it, you know. Just because the only evidence he has given hasn't tickled your fancy, doesn't mean that it can simply be shunned.

You should at least make the effort to talk to the accused about what happened; it's not like he hasn't tried to prove it.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133779

Chris wrote:
Bilbo Swaggins wrote:
Chris wrote:
Technically, the player has still broken the rules. He is a police officer, and the rules for that job state that they are there solely to keep the streets free of crime. That means that he should never have been in a position to scam another citizen, as that is a criminal act in its self.



I would like this to be revisited.
First of all the printer safe is disconnected props. Second of all there is no proof of him giving the money, neither being scammed. Aka the rulebreak itself. Its only chat logs, it is lack of evidence for both the rulebreak and the money lost. Im just trying to be nice and give him money from my own wallet.

You have a duty to actually investigate it, you know. Just because the only evidence he has given hasn't tickled your fancy, doesn't mean that it can simply be shunned.

You should at least make the effort to talk to the accused about what happened.
Something you must understand chris, what is being written here isnt everything that happens. You literally have 0 clue what i have investigated and what i havent.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133781

Bilbo Swaggins wrote:
Chris wrote:
Bilbo Swaggins wrote:
Chris wrote:
Technically, the player has still broken the rules. He is a police officer, and the rules for that job state that they are there solely to keep the streets free of crime. That means that he should never have been in a position to scam another citizen, as that is a criminal act in its self.



I would like this to be revisited.
First of all the printer safe is disconnected props. Second of all there is no proof of him giving the money, neither being scammed. Aka the rulebreak itself. Its only chat logs, it is lack of evidence for both the rulebreak and the money lost. Im just trying to be nice and give him money from my own wallet.

You have a duty to actually investigate it, you know. Just because the only evidence he has given hasn't tickled your fancy, doesn't mean that it can simply be shunned.

You should at least make the effort to talk to the accused about what happened.
Something you must understand chris, what is being written here isnt everything that happens. You literally have 0 clue what i have investigated and what i havent.

All you've said is that there's no proof. I'm not a mind reader.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133783

This request summed up.
Template? : No
Proof of steam id? : No
Proof of actual rulebreak/ offense : No
Proof of owning the pronter safe : No, it clearly says disconnected player props, there is no way it actually is his.
Proof of anything at all? : No. It seems to me hes trying to rip us off with his friend pretending he got scammed with this disconnected player props safe. Anyway i still try to offer him a refund to make sure he has a good experience at zarp

Conclusion : Denied.
You must understand that you cant expect staff members do actually investigate some deep shit to find a little bit of information that might not help you at all. I hope this also gAve you a better understanding of my conclusion
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133784

Bilbo Swaggins wrote:
This request summed up.
Template? : No
Proof of steam id? : No
Proof of actual rulebreak/ offense : No
Proof of owning the pronter safe : No, it clearly says disconnected player props, there is no way it actually is his.
Proof of anything at all? : No. It seems to me hes trying to rip us off with his friend pretending he got scammed with this disconnected player props safe. Anyway i still try to offer him a refund to make sure he has a good experience at zarp

Conclusion : Denied.
You must understand that you cant expect staff members do actually investigate some deep shit to find a little bit of information tjat might not help you at all. I hope this also gAve you a better understanding of my conclusion

You've resorted to the excuse of the template/steamid, which is fine - automatic denial (you could have said this was the reason before), but still the evidence shows a player telling another player that he scammed him, which to me makes it a more likely case than anything (your theory of 'his friend was helping him' doesn't really add up to me, because he'd be getting his friend punished).

You've also made quite a significant accusation there which is really not called for.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133785

I havent accused anyone, im just telling my point of view.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133786

TIME TO LOCK THIS QUICKLY
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133787

And also how can you expect me to punish someone when they got no evidence on who actually wrote it?
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133788

Bilbo Swaggins wrote:
I havent accused anyone, im just telling my point of view.

It is your point of view, you're right; but it carries an accusation which is a bit far - you say you don't have enough evidence to deal with it, but at the same time you don't really have the evidence to have that opinion.

This is just going around in circles. I love you like Farage. Argument over, you denied it because it didn't use the template ;)
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133790

Ive denied it for the reasons as stated before.
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Ban Request & Compensation Request 9 years 7 months ago #133859

Pred, I can show you the whole console chat if you want. I know that doesn't change anything, but it will give a-bit of more proof and evidence.
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