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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268491

Luek wrote:
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Luek wrote:
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I thought admins were meant to avoid raiding bases after they had received info on it from administrative duties?

i dont see how mix3rz received any info from administrative duties here

he knew that the player wouldn't be allowed back due to NLR no?

i didn't even think of that. a clear conflict of interest.

usually "info from administrative duties" refers to when staff teleport inside for a sit then raid like 5 min after. I don't think you gain much by removing a player (outside) that is breaking NLR. But im not sure why mix3rz killed him

I was online at the time. The player was inside of the building then taken outside and dragged away (the user seems to have only got their recording software up after being taken outside though), but I didn't know where to until I saw the video. The raid seems to have begun almost immediately, not even 5 minutes later which you describe as suitable. I hope people put their biases aside and actually think logically about this and realize how toxic this admin was to this fairly inexperienced player for no good reason at all.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268496

Justice wrote:
Luek wrote:
Justice wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Luek wrote:
Markus Chellwigg wrote:
I thought admins were meant to avoid raiding bases after they had received info on it from administrative duties?

i dont see how mix3rz received any info from administrative duties here

he knew that the player wouldn't be allowed back due to NLR no?

i didn't even think of that. a clear conflict of interest.

usually "info from administrative duties" refers to when staff teleport inside for a sit then raid like 5 min after. I don't think you gain much by removing a player (outside) that is breaking NLR. But im not sure why mix3rz killed him

I was online at the time. The player was inside of the building then taken outside and dragged away (the user seems to have only got their recording software up after being taken outside though), but I didn't know where to until I saw the video. The raid seems to have begun almost immediately, not even 5 minutes later which you describe as suitable. I hope people put their biases aside and actually think logically about this and realize how toxic this admin was to this fairly inexperienced player for no good reason at all.

Not one person mentions that he was dragged from out of his base then raided, you also seem to be making this situation sound like he abused so hard he teleported everyone into one spot and gluoned them. All he did was remove someone outside of the district for breaking NLR, they were both outside. Why he killed him upon return I don’t know, but saying the admin was toxic is bullshit, I don’t see any toxicity from him whatsoever and if you think I’m being bias you may just be confused. If I were in mix3rz’ situation I would’ve done the same thing, remove the player from the district and upon return I would just warned him. The player clearly knew why he was moved yet came back anyways, I don’t think mix3rz should’ve killed him but he surly didn’t mass abuse his powers in a toxic manner like you’re describing.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268498

Luek wrote:
Justice wrote:
Luek wrote:
Justice wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Luek wrote:
Markus Chellwigg wrote:
I thought admins were meant to avoid raiding bases after they had received info on it from administrative duties?

i dont see how mix3rz received any info from administrative duties here

he knew that the player wouldn't be allowed back due to NLR no?

i didn't even think of that. a clear conflict of interest.

usually "info from administrative duties" refers to when staff teleport inside for a sit then raid like 5 min after. I don't think you gain much by removing a player (outside) that is breaking NLR. But im not sure why mix3rz killed him

I was online at the time. The player was inside of the building then taken outside and dragged away (the user seems to have only got their recording software up after being taken outside though), but I didn't know where to until I saw the video. The raid seems to have begun almost immediately, not even 5 minutes later which you describe as suitable. I hope people put their biases aside and actually think logically about this and realize how toxic this admin was to this fairly inexperienced player for no good reason at all.

Not one person mentions that he was dragged from out of his base then raided, you also seem to be making this situation sound like he abused so hard he teleported everyone into one spot and gluoned them. All he did was remove someone outside of the district for breaking NLR, they were both outside. Why he killed him upon return I don’t know, but saying the admin was toxic is bullshit, I don’t see any toxicity from him whatsoever and if you think I’m being bias you may just be confused. If I were in mix3rz’ situation I would’ve done the same thing, remove the player from the district and upon return I would just warned him. The player clearly knew why he was moved yet came back anyways, I don’t think mix3rz should’ve killed him but he surly didn’t mass abuse his powers in a toxic manner like you’re describing.

The player said they were pulled away from his base and I also saw it in-game. The player explained why NLR didn't really apply, and then he was killed by the admin and his base was destroyed. It almost looks like a revenge attack on a player - they had a valid reason for 'breaking' NLR, so intead of doing the wanted punishment of a warn, he instead decided to destroy all of the player's items and base. Instead of being sympathetic or talking with the user further, they just said "welcome to darkrp" (as you can see in the chat log in the screenshot), and then in-game further insulted them and said they won't get any of their items back again, even if he was punished for what he did. I was in-game so I saw a lot more, so that may explain my negative stance even moreso. Mix3rz also accused the users of having an invalid/rule-breaking base which warranted its destruction, but Nikoo himself checked the base and said the base was fine and met all the rules. He was overall very rude to this player. If ZARP wants to keep players it has to not excuse behaviour such as this from admins of all people. If he wanted to handle this sensibly, he would have at least waited 3 minutes so there couldn't be a deemed conflict of interest. It's a complete failure every step of the way.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268500

Justice wrote:
Luek wrote:
Justice wrote:
Luek wrote:
Justice wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Luek wrote:
Markus Chellwigg wrote:
I thought admins were meant to avoid raiding bases after they had received info on it from administrative duties?

i dont see how mix3rz received any info from administrative duties here

he knew that the player wouldn't be allowed back due to NLR no?

i didn't even think of that. a clear conflict of interest.

usually "info from administrative duties" refers to when staff teleport inside for a sit then raid like 5 min after. I don't think you gain much by removing a player (outside) that is breaking NLR. But im not sure why mix3rz killed him

I was online at the time. The player was inside of the building then taken outside and dragged away (the user seems to have only got their recording software up after being taken outside though), but I didn't know where to until I saw the video. The raid seems to have begun almost immediately, not even 5 minutes later which you describe as suitable. I hope people put their biases aside and actually think logically about this and realize how toxic this admin was to this fairly inexperienced player for no good reason at all.

Not one person mentions that he was dragged from out of his base then raided, you also seem to be making this situation sound like he abused so hard he teleported everyone into one spot and gluoned them. All he did was remove someone outside of the district for breaking NLR, they were both outside. Why he killed him upon return I don’t know, but saying the admin was toxic is bullshit, I don’t see any toxicity from him whatsoever and if you think I’m being bias you may just be confused. If I were in mix3rz’ situation I would’ve done the same thing, remove the player from the district and upon return I would just warned him. The player clearly knew why he was moved yet came back anyways, I don’t think mix3rz should’ve killed him but he surly didn’t mass abuse his powers in a toxic manner like you’re describing.

The player said they were pulled away from his base and I also saw it in-game. The player explained why NLR didn't really apply, and then he was killed by the admin and his base was destroyed. It almost looks like a revenge attack on a player - they had a valid reason for 'breaking' NLR, so intead of doing the wanted punishment of a warn, he instead decided to destroy all of the player's items and base. Instead of being sympathetic or talking with the user further, they just said "welcome to darkrp" (as you can see in the chat log in the screenshot), and then in-game further insulted them and said they won't get any of their items back again, even if he was punished for what he did. I was in-game so I saw a lot more, so that may explain my negative stance even moreso. Mix3rz also accused the users of having an invalid/rule-breaking base which warranted its destruction, but Nikoo himself checked the base and said the base was fine and met all the rules. He was overall very rude to this player. If ZARP wants to keep players it has to not excuse behaviour such as this from admins of all people. If he wanted to handle this sensibly, he would have at least waited 3 minutes so there couldn't be a deemed conflict of interest. It's a complete failure every step of the way.


I can’t read shit in the images they’re blurry on mobile but NLR is NLR anyways, saying you were stuck and killed yourself doesn’t mean you can break it anyways, especially after an admin takes you out of the district. my opinion won’t change on that, again idk why mix3rz killed him and if he was chatting shit in those imgurs then that’s just kinda yikes, I’ll read them later.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268502

DANlEL wrote:
Justice wrote:
Luek wrote:
Justice wrote:
Luek wrote:
Justice wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Luek wrote:
Markus Chellwigg wrote:
I thought admins were meant to avoid raiding bases after they had received info on it from administrative duties?

i dont see how mix3rz received any info from administrative duties here

he knew that the player wouldn't be allowed back due to NLR no?

i didn't even think of that. a clear conflict of interest.

usually "info from administrative duties" refers to when staff teleport inside for a sit then raid like 5 min after. I don't think you gain much by removing a player (outside) that is breaking NLR. But im not sure why mix3rz killed him

I was online at the time. The player was inside of the building then taken outside and dragged away (the user seems to have only got their recording software up after being taken outside though), but I didn't know where to until I saw the video. The raid seems to have begun almost immediately, not even 5 minutes later which you describe as suitable. I hope people put their biases aside and actually think logically about this and realize how toxic this admin was to this fairly inexperienced player for no good reason at all.

Not one person mentions that he was dragged from out of his base then raided, you also seem to be making this situation sound like he abused so hard he teleported everyone into one spot and gluoned them. All he did was remove someone outside of the district for breaking NLR, they were both outside. Why he killed him upon return I don’t know, but saying the admin was toxic is bullshit, I don’t see any toxicity from him whatsoever and if you think I’m being bias you may just be confused. If I were in mix3rz’ situation I would’ve done the same thing, remove the player from the district and upon return I would just warned him. The player clearly knew why he was moved yet came back anyways, I don’t think mix3rz should’ve killed him but he surly didn’t mass abuse his powers in a toxic manner like you’re describing.

The player said they were pulled away from his base and I also saw it in-game. The player explained why NLR didn't really apply
The important part of this is that it doesn't matter how they got the NLR. They could also make an F1 if they were stuck. Zarp is lacking players extremely, I'm sure the F1 would be handled in a few seconds.

The server was very quiet, pretty sure it was just Mix3rz and Nikoo (neither of whom were on duty - I think a mod may have been going through training also, which means it was basically just Mix3rz if that's the case). The ZARP rules state that sensible discretion should be exercised when punishing for the rules. He clearly agreed that the user's NLR excuse was valid, or else he would have warned him for coming back again.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268504

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The server was very quiet, pretty sure it was just Mix3rz and Nikoo (neither of whom were on duty - I think a mod may have been going through training also, which means it was basically just Mix3rz if that's the case). The ZARP rules state that sensible discretion should be exercised when punishing for the rules. He clearly agreed that the user's NLR excuse was valid, or else he would have warned him for coming back again.

Well probably he just didn't want to let him interrupt the raid and go to a sit mid-raid and instead killed him as he's not affecting his RP by killing him, and he just shouldn't have came back after being told to stay away. Personally I'd just physgun him away really quickly again and if he comes back again I'd either kill him or just freeze him until I'm done because I'm not gonna stop my raid or risk my items that are currently equipped because of a rulebreaker.

He took the player away for 'breaking' NLR and then immediately raided their base, because he knew the player wouldn't be able to do anything about it. I don't think the reason for having NLR was valid, but even if it was, he's clearly not acting how a member of staff should. It's a no-brainer.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268505

Could've simply just said hey you're breaking nlr leave the district please instead of acting like a dickhead and move him out with your physgun to raid him.

Pathetic, raiding a small base with an evo and mini 2.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268507

Raiding players without items with a evo mini 2 btw rip zarp ssrp
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268511

doesnt surprise me @ who the staff member is
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268514

Armarni4 wrote:
Justice wrote:
Luek wrote:
Justice wrote:
Luek wrote:
Justice wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Luek wrote:
Markus Chellwigg wrote:
I thought admins were meant to avoid raiding bases after they had received info on it from administrative duties?

i dont see how mix3rz received any info from administrative duties here

he knew that the player wouldn't be allowed back due to NLR no?

i didn't even think of that. a clear conflict of interest.

usually "info from administrative duties" refers to when staff teleport inside for a sit then raid like 5 min after. I don't think you gain much by removing a player (outside) that is breaking NLR. But im not sure why mix3rz killed him

I was online at the time. The player was inside of the building then taken outside and dragged away (the user seems to have only got their recording software up after being taken outside though), but I didn't know where to until I saw the video. The raid seems to have begun almost immediately, not even 5 minutes later which you describe as suitable. I hope people put their biases aside and actually think logically about this and realize how toxic this admin was to this fairly inexperienced player for no good reason at all.

Not one person mentions that he was dragged from out of his base then raided, you also seem to be making this situation sound like he abused so hard he teleported everyone into one spot and gluoned them. All he did was remove someone outside of the district for breaking NLR, they were both outside. Why he killed him upon return I don’t know, but saying the admin was toxic is bullshit, I don’t see any toxicity from him whatsoever and if you think I’m being bias you may just be confused. If I were in mix3rz’ situation I would’ve done the same thing, remove the player from the district and upon return I would just warned him. The player clearly knew why he was moved yet came back anyways, I don’t think mix3rz should’ve killed him but he surly didn’t mass abuse his powers in a toxic manner like you’re describing.

The player said they were pulled away from his base and I also saw it in-game. The player explained why NLR didn't really apply, and then he was killed by the admin and his base was destroyed. It almost looks like a revenge attack on a player - they had a valid reason for 'breaking' NLR, so intead of doing the wanted punishment of a warn, he instead decided to destroy all of the player's items and base. Instead of being sympathetic or talking with the user further, they just said "welcome to darkrp" (as you can see in the chat log in the screenshot), and then in-game further insulted them and said they won't get any of their items back again, even if he was punished for what he did. I was in-game so I saw a lot more, so that may explain my negative stance even moreso. Mix3rz also accused the users of having an invalid/rule-breaking base which warranted its destruction, but Nikoo himself checked the base and said the base was fine and met all the rules. He was overall very rude to this player. If ZARP wants to keep players it has to not excuse behaviour such as this from admins of all people. If he wanted to handle this sensibly, he would have at least waited 3 minutes so there couldn't be a deemed conflict of interest. It's a complete failure every step of the way.
Just like to add that nikoo said it was fine a couple mins AFTER the raid and then after the raid they removed the keypad they were hiding and placed a different one

Were you even there Armarni? You keep defending Mix3rz like your life depends on it yet you keep getting it wrong. I ran up to where Nikoo was and I saw the destroyed base, and we were both there when they spawned their dupe back in to prove it legit. It was a very simple layout with no tricks at all lmao, just one really bad excuse after another.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268517

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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268518

just make an f1 about being stuck and you wouldn't have nlr in the first place.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268519

If people are still raiding new players nowadays then lord have mercy on getting new players into the server..
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268520

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just make an f1 about being stuck and you wouldn't have nlr in the first place.

Is the worst thing here that a user had NLR because it would've been tidier to use the F1 menu instead of killing himself, or the staff member who takes the person away from their base, RDMs them, and then raids their base because they know that they're helpless to defend it?
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268529

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just make an f1 about being stuck and you wouldn't have nlr in the first place.

Is the worst thing here that a user had NLR because it would've been tidier to use the F1 menu instead of killing himself, or the staff member who takes the person away from their base, RDMs them, and then raids their base because they know that they're helpless to defend it?
I can't see how you don't understand that if a F1 was made, none of this would happen, the only thing report worthy is RDM
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268531

The exact reason new players don't stick around
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268532

seeing his attitude on other posts is definitely a :plussp: from me
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268534

Micky wrote:
Justice wrote:
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just make an f1 about being stuck and you wouldn't have nlr in the first place.

Is the worst thing here that a user had NLR because it would've been tidier to use the F1 menu instead of killing himself, or the staff member who takes the person away from their base, RDMs them, and then raids their base because they know that they're helpless to defend it?
I can't see how you don't understand that if a F1 was made, none of this would happen, the only thing report worthy is RDM

If they didn't connect none of this would've happened. If Mix3rz followed the rules for staff this wouldn't have happened. What's your point? The only thing here that is truly a problem is the abuse of inexperienced users, and Mix3rz is solely to blame.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268536

Justice wrote:
Micky wrote:
Justice wrote:
Jens wrote:
just make an f1 about being stuck and you wouldn't have nlr in the first place.

Is the worst thing here that a user had NLR because it would've been tidier to use the F1 menu instead of killing himself, or the staff member who takes the person away from their base, RDMs them, and then raids their base because they know that they're helpless to defend it?
I can't see how you don't understand that if a F1 was made, none of this would happen, the only thing report worthy is RDM

If they didn't connect none of this would've happened. If Mix3rz followed the rules for staff this wouldn't have happened. What's your point? The only thing here that is truly a problem is the abuse of inexperienced users, and Mix3rz is solely to blame.

Dude you know nothing about the situation and the correct way to deal with it, If a new player gets raided then tough shit it’s a game and just because we need new players doesn’t mean that we can’t raid like holy fuck man. If this geezer actually was smart, he could’ve made a F1 about being stuck and who knows MixerZ would’ve handled it and then he won’t be allowed to raid him as he’s seen the defence of the base and that’s unfair but this dude didn’t do that. He killed himaelf and that means that NLR applies no matter what, Yeah Mixer could’ve handled the situation better by actually speaking to the guy and explaining the rule instead of just throwing him away and saying NLR. However No rule was broken here (maybe RDM). So MixerZ has every right to raid the base no matter what.

Just because ZARP needs new players they aren’t going to get imminity from the sole purpose of SSRP.
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[SSRP] Demote Request/Staff Report - Mix3rz 4 years 3 months ago #1268537

Justice wrote:
Micky wrote:
Justice wrote:
Jens wrote:
just make an f1 about being stuck and you wouldn't have nlr in the first place.

Is the worst thing here that a user had NLR because it would've been tidier to use the F1 menu instead of killing himself, or the staff member who takes the person away from their base, RDMs them, and then raids their base because they know that they're helpless to defend it?
I can't see how you don't understand that if a F1 was made, none of this would happen, the only thing report worthy is RDM

If they didn't connect none of this would've happened. If Mix3rz followed the rules for staff this wouldn't have happened. What's your point? The only thing here that is truly a problem is the abuse of inexperienced users, and Mix3rz is solely to blame.
Bro you have some next small brain, the only thing Mix3rz did wrong was RDM, you're arguing insanely stupid points and I am shocked that you can't see it
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