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DANlEL wrote:
He took the player away for 'breaking' NLR and then immediately raided their base, because he knew the player wouldn't be able to do anything about it. I don't think the reason for having NLR was valid, but even if it was, he's clearly not acting how a member of staff should. It's a no-brainer.
Justice wrote:
The server was very quiet, pretty sure it was just Mix3rz and Nikoo (neither of whom were on duty - I think a mod may have been going through training also, which means it was basically just Mix3rz if that's the case). The ZARP rules state that sensible discretion should be exercised when punishing for the rules. He clearly agreed that the user's NLR excuse was valid, or else he would have warned him for coming back again.
Well probably he just didn't want to let him interrupt the raid and go to a sit mid-raid and instead killed him as he's not affecting his RP by killing him, and he just shouldn't have came back after being told to stay away. Personally I'd just physgun him away really quickly again and if he comes back again I'd either kill him or just freeze him until I'm done because I'm not gonna stop my raid or risk my items that are currently equipped because of a rulebreaker.
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Luek wrote:
The player said they were pulled away from his base and I also saw it in-game. The player explained why NLR didn't really apply
The important part of this is that it doesn't matter how they got the NLR. They could also make an F1 if they were stuck. Zarp is lacking players extremely, I'm sure the F1 would be handled in a few seconds.Justice wrote:
Not one person mentions that he was dragged from out of his base then raided, you also seem to be making this situation sound like he abused so hard he teleported everyone into one spot and gluoned them. All he did was remove someone outside of the district for breaking NLR, they were both outside. Why he killed him upon return I don’t know, but saying the admin was toxic is bullshit, I don’t see any toxicity from him whatsoever and if you think I’m being bias you may just be confused. If I were in mix3rz’ situation I would’ve done the same thing, remove the player from the district and upon return I would just warned him. The player clearly knew why he was moved yet came back anyways, I don’t think mix3rz should’ve killed him but he surly didn’t mass abuse his powers in a toxic manner like you’re describing.
Luek wrote:
I was online at the time. The player was inside of the building then taken outside and dragged away (the user seems to have only got their recording software up after being taken outside though), but I didn't know where to until I saw the video. The raid seems to have begun almost immediately, not even 5 minutes later which you describe as suitable. I hope people put their biases aside and actually think logically about this and realize how toxic this admin was to this fairly inexperienced player for no good reason at all.
Justice wrote:
usually "info from administrative duties" refers to when staff teleport inside for a sit then raid like 5 min after. I don't think you gain much by removing a player (outside) that is breaking NLR. But im not sure why mix3rz killed him
Mattors wrote:
i didn't even think of that. a clear conflict of interest.
Luek wrote:
he knew that the player wouldn't be allowed back due to NLR no?
Markus Chellwigg wrote:
i dont see how mix3rz received any info from administrative duties here
I thought admins were meant to avoid raiding bases after they had received info on it from administrative duties?
i dont see how mix3rz received any info from administrative duties here
he knew that the player wouldn't be allowed back due to NLR no?
i didn't even think of that. a clear conflict of interest.
usually "info from administrative duties" refers to when staff teleport inside for a sit then raid like 5 min after. I don't think you gain much by removing a player (outside) that is breaking NLR. But im not sure why mix3rz killed him
I was online at the time. The player was inside of the building then taken outside and dragged away (the user seems to have only got their recording software up after being taken outside though), but I didn't know where to until I saw the video. The raid seems to have begun almost immediately, not even 5 minutes later which you describe as suitable. I hope people put their biases aside and actually think logically about this and realize how toxic this admin was to this fairly inexperienced player for no good reason at all.
Not one person mentions that he was dragged from out of his base then raided, you also seem to be making this situation sound like he abused so hard he teleported everyone into one spot and gluoned them. All he did was remove someone outside of the district for breaking NLR, they were both outside. Why he killed him upon return I don’t know, but saying the admin was toxic is bullshit, I don’t see any toxicity from him whatsoever and if you think I’m being bias you may just be confused. If I were in mix3rz’ situation I would’ve done the same thing, remove the player from the district and upon return I would just warned him. The player clearly knew why he was moved yet came back anyways, I don’t think mix3rz should’ve killed him but he surly didn’t mass abuse his powers in a toxic manner like you’re describing.
The player said they were pulled away from his base and I also saw it in-game. The player explained why NLR didn't really apply
The server was very quiet, pretty sure it was just Mix3rz and Nikoo (neither of whom were on duty - I think a mod may have been going through training also, which means it was basically just Mix3rz if that's the case). The ZARP rules state that sensible discretion should be exercised when punishing for the rules. He clearly agreed that the user's NLR excuse was valid, or else he would have warned him for coming back again.
Well probably he just didn't want to let him interrupt the raid and go to a sit mid-raid and instead killed him as he's not affecting his RP by killing him, and he just shouldn't have came back after being told to stay away. Personally I'd just physgun him away really quickly again and if he comes back again I'd either kill him or just freeze him until I'm done because I'm not gonna stop my raid or risk my items that are currently equipped because of a rulebreaker.
He took the player away for 'breaking' NLR and then immediately raided their base, because he knew the player wouldn't be able to do anything about it. I don't think the reason for having NLR was valid, but even if it was, he's clearly not acting how a member of staff should. It's a no-brainer.
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