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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249691

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He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

Yeah maybe for an owner but for any normal player that plays on the server even for the littlest thing you get instantly warned and then you get told by the admin "its your fault go complain on the forums :)" and if you discuss it you get instantly muted without getting told stop or anything


also after you go to "appeal" your warn on the forums you come by (or any other admin) and just straight up deny it without even knowing any context to it (you know what im talking about) but i guess it couldve been corrected with a simple explanation
i have nothing against xnator but all i want is fair judgement. Treat all the same

speaking from my own experience judgement is so unprofessional and nobody really cared about any of my appeals so i just gave up i hope it gets better
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249694

Sp00ns wrote:
TheFierceOwl wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
Morgan wrote:
ITzTrain wrote:
Morgan wrote:
He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

Yeah maybe for an owner but for any normal player that plays on the server even for the littlest thing you get instantly warned and then you get told by the admin "its your fault go complain on the forums :)" and if you discuss it you get instantly muted without getting told stop or anything


also after you go to "appeal" your warn on the forums you come by (or any other admin) and just straight up deny it without even knowing any context to it (you know what im talking about) but i guess it couldve been corrected with a simple explanation
i have nothing against xnator but all i want is fair judgement. Treat all the same

speaking from my own experience judgement is so unprofessional and nobody really cared about any of my appeals so i just gave up i hope it gets better
if he doesnt get the fair judgement then this doesnt put a good overview at the server. I wouldnt join if everytime a staff member messes up doesnt get punished while any user however the slightest thing he has done he would get warned no matter what . I understand he apologised and thats O K A Y but it still isnt fair .
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249695

TheFierceOwl wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
TheFierceOwl wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
Morgan wrote:
ITzTrain wrote:
Morgan wrote:
He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

Yeah maybe for an owner but for any normal player that plays on the server even for the littlest thing you get instantly warned and then you get told by the admin "its your fault go complain on the forums :)" and if you discuss it you get instantly muted without getting told stop or anything


also after you go to "appeal" your warn on the forums you come by (or any other admin) and just straight up deny it without even knowing any context to it (you know what im talking about) but i guess it couldve been corrected with a simple explanation
i have nothing against xnator but all i want is fair judgement. Treat all the same

speaking from my own experience judgement is so unprofessional and nobody really cared about any of my appeals so i just gave up i hope it gets better
if he doesnt get the fair judgement then this doesnt put a good overview at the server. I wouldnt join if everytime a staff member messes up doesnt get punished while any user however the slightest thing he has done he would get warned no matter what . I understand he apologised and thats O K A Y but it still isnt fair .

Question to consider: What would you consider fair judgement?
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249699

TheXnator wrote:
TheFierceOwl wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
TheFierceOwl wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
Morgan wrote:
ITzTrain wrote:
Morgan wrote:
He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

Yeah maybe for an owner but for any normal player that plays on the server even for the littlest thing you get instantly warned and then you get told by the admin "its your fault go complain on the forums :)" and if you discuss it you get instantly muted without getting told stop or anything


also after you go to "appeal" your warn on the forums you come by (or any other admin) and just straight up deny it without even knowing any context to it (you know what im talking about) but i guess it couldve been corrected with a simple explanation
i have nothing against xnator but all i want is fair judgement. Treat all the same

speaking from my own experience judgement is so unprofessional and nobody really cared about any of my appeals so i just gave up i hope it gets better
if he doesnt get the fair judgement then this doesnt put a good overview at the server. I wouldnt join if everytime a staff member messes up doesnt get punished while any user however the slightest thing he has done he would get warned no matter what . I understand he apologised and thats O K A Y but it still isnt fair .

Question to consider: What would you consider fair judgement?
you want fair judgement? Let niko handle this as if it was a report on a normal user punishment request NLR. Wont say a word more.
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249702

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I don't think you understood the question. If you were Chute, handling this report, what action would you take? If you want to complain about fair judgement, I'm just curious to know what it is that you think would be fair action to take. Consider the demotions/punishments against staff members policy: zarpgaming.com/index.php/help/policies/78-demotions
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249705

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I don't think you understood the question. If you were Chute, handling this report, what action would you take? If you want to complain about fair judgement, I'm just curious to know what it is that you think would be fair action to take. Consider the demotions/punishments against staff members policy: zarpgaming.com/index.php/help/policies/78-demotions
demote for a small rule break? Why bro? Im just saying staff can have their mistakes handled the same way as how a user would because you are a human not an angle you make mistakes. Just saying getting warned for NLR is the right thing to do and they ( any other staff or owner ) shouldn't overreact about it . Love ya pal
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249721

FUCK IT just warn yourself :^)
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249729

Xnator rule breaking BAD LAD :plussp:
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249731

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Xnator rule breaking BAD LAD :plussp:

The gods have made their will known.
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249736

TheXnator wrote:
Just want to say that it's not job abuse, but the NLR part is valid, which I do apologise for, I forgot we added the extra part to the rules to state:
If you are a job which does not have restrictions, for example, NLR in a district, no raid timer, etc then switch to a job which does, these restrictions will apply to your "new life" in the new job.

As for the job abuse part though:
Switching to jobs in certain scenarios to bypass game features or rules is considered job abuse. This includes but is not limited to: switching to a job which is able to raid from one that cannot inside a base, switching to a job to increase a job counter (ie. bank, casino vault or nuke) to then join the raid or switching to a cop to arrest a wanted player instantly.

It would only be job abuse if switching once inside the casino, which was not the case.

As you see from what you literally just pasted - Switching to jobs in certain scenarios to bypass game features or rules is considered job abuse.

You literally switched jobs to bypass NLR, because if you did not change to police in this scenario you would not be allowed to go back to the raid as you would have NLR.
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249764

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249772

Hi Rhys,
After speaking with a few people about this report and reviewing it myself I can see that Xnator has explained all his actions and apologized for any wrong doing. Thankfully we even have the VoD so we know there was no malicious intent whatsoever and the rulebreaking wasn't known until afterwards. This would be more than enough from any player in-game, staff or non-staff to settle the report so we won't need to do anything further.

Thank you.
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