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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249630

Morgan wrote: He might be confused about it. If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop. hes the owner btw	Markus Offline Legendary Member Posts: 5349 Thanks received: 1634 Karma: -337
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249632

Morgan wrote: He might be confused about it. If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop. wagwan for battyman	Zarp Trusted Offline Banned its mango Posts: 2032 Thanks received: 847 Karma: -20
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249633

Morgan wrote: He might be confused about it. If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop. Realistically the owner shouldn't be confused about the rules.	RhysA Offline Expert Boarder chad Posts: 1591 Thanks received: 565 Karma: 10
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249635

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249638

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Because most other users have done very little for this community whereas you cannot deny all the work xnator has done for the community and this is a relatively minor slip up and he should know better as a CO but people being angry because he isn't being treated as a regular user fail to see that he isn't a normal user.

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249639

Morgan wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

ruined my RP experience with genocide

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249640

Morgan wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

I've said it's a simple rule break and I don't expect anything to actually happen to him, its the fact that he is arguing and saying that he did nothing wrong.

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249641

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

And these are things you should consider for users too, not pointing fingers at you just to clarify but users are also bound to get confused for stuff like this too and still receive a punishment. I'm not saying I want Xnator warned, demoted or whatever, I don't care but as long as he stops trying to excuse his actions and accept his wrongdoings it's not that big of a deal unless it is repeated rule breaking.

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249643

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

as morgan says unfortunately the NLR does not just magically disappear.

Although it is a rulebreak I can't see anything too major coming out of it considering how minor it is.

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249644

Morgan wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

I mean when the normal player commits a minor rule break their threatened with a ban? But a staff member who is meant to represent the community is just allowed to do it.

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249646

Morgan wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

So whilst non-staff users are 100% warned in this instance, now that it was almighty TheXnator who has committed the crime, it is a "very small issue" all of a sudden? Come on man, if you ain't gonna treat a new player who accidentally breaks the rules like this, then you should NOT be defending a community owner who is arguing that he has not broken any rules and "correct it with just a simple explanation"

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249647

Jeppe wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Because most other users have done very little for this community whereas you cannot deny all the work xnator has done for the community and this is a relatively minor slip up and he should know better as a CO but people being angry because he isn't being treated as a regular user fail to see that he isn't a normal user.

This doesn't grant him the 'get away with rule breaking' pass though, he is still expected to follow them like everyone else even if he does good work behind the scenes. If he wants to argue about a rule that he very evidently broke, it just shows that he has a poorer knowledge of the rules whilst being in a situation where he should be giving the final word as a community owner.

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249648

Na1 wrote:

Morgan wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

I mean when the normal player commits a minor rule break their threatened with a ban? But a staff member who is meant to represent the community is just allowed to do it.

Never seen someone being threatened with a ban for breaking 1 minor rule and morgan isn't trying to argue, he is trying to explain. I would say this simply shouldn't be brought out of proportion

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Whether he defends himself or not, there isn't much I can say / do about it and this will be handled by chute / EMP in the end, I didn't see the clip of him denying it I would say that you should just wait out for a reply from chute / xnator himself .

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249649

Spectrum wrote:

Na1 wrote:

Morgan wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

I mean when the normal player commits a minor rule break their threatened with a ban? But a staff member who is meant to represent the community is just allowed to do it.

Never seen someone being threatened with a ban for breaking 1 minor rule and morgan isn't trying to argue, he is trying to explain. I would say this simply shouldn't be brought out of proportion

Minor rule break or not it’s still a rule break and we all know he still broke a rule. That’s the point you’re missing he still broke a rule yet he denies it?? He could simply just apologise and it would be over with. Anyone who breaks a rule sets a bad example to other players rank or not. Simple as

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249650

Clarky wrote:

Jeppe wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Because most other users have done very little for this community whereas you cannot deny all the work xnator has done for the community and this is a relatively minor slip up and he should know better as a CO but people being angry because he isn't being treated as a regular user fail to see that he isn't a normal user.

This doesn't grant him the 'get away with rule breaking' pass though, he is still expected to follow them like everyone else even if he does good work behind the scenes. If he wants to argue about a rule that he very evidently broke, it just shows that he has a poorer knowledge of the rules whilst being in a situation where he should be giving the final word as a community owner.

I agree, it definitely isnt a get out of jail pass but this is a very minor rulebreak which shouldn't've happened but it's hardly mass abuse

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249651

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I mean when the normal player commits a minor rule break their threatened with a ban? But a staff member who is meant to represent the community is just allowed to do it.

No, a user with no history of punishments would never be banned for a minor rulebreak. The Staff Ethos is a guideline that instructs people to not punish things that are for minor rulebreaks. However, if the user had a history of this repeated behavior and or recent punishments, etc. it is up to the punishing staff member. If there ever is an out of place ban that is too harsh, users are always welcome to make an appeal or report on the forums and it can be reviewed.

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249652

I'm going lock this until Chute, EMP or JimJam decide to handle this!	OnionRings Offline Community Manager Posts: 10901 Thanks received: 5657 Karma: -565
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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249669

Just want to say that it's not job abuse, but the NLR part is valid, which I do apologise for, I forgot we added the extra part to the rules to state:

If you are a job which does not have restrictions, for example, NLR in a district, no raid timer, etc then switch to a job which does, these restrictions will apply to your "new life" in the new job.

As for the job abuse part though:

Switching to jobs in certain scenarios to bypass game features or rules is considered job abuse. This includes but is not limited to: switching to a job which is able to raid from one that cannot inside a base, switching to a job to increase a job counter (ie. bank, casino vault or nuke) to then join the raid or switching to a cop to arrest a wanted player instantly.

It would only be job abuse if switching once inside the casino, which was not the case.

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249684

Morgan wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

Yeah maybe for an owner but for any normal player that plays on the server even for the littlest thing you get instantly warned and then you get told by the admin "its your fault go complain on the forums

" and if you discuss it you get instantly muted without getting told stop or anything

also after you go to "appeal" your warn on the forums you come by (or any other admin) and just straight up deny it without even knowing any context to it (you know what im talking about) but i guess it couldve been corrected with a simple explanation

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Report Abuse - TheXnator 4 years 5 months ago #1249687

Sp00ns wrote:

Morgan wrote:

ITzTrain wrote:

Morgan wrote:

He might be confused about it.

If you die as a gangster in a raid, you have to wait out NLR even if you swap to cop. Because you died as a gangster, you'll have 3 minutes to wait regardless of the fact you swap to cop.

How come other users get warned for something like this, but a community owner gets to be "confused"?

Never said it was an excuse, you guys are making it sound like he committed genocide on the server though lol, in reality this is a very small issue and could be corrected with just a simple explanation.

Yeah maybe for an owner but for any normal player that plays on the server even for the littlest thing you get instantly warned and then you get told by the admin "its your fault go complain on the forums

" and if you discuss it you get instantly muted without getting told stop or anything

also after you go to "appeal" your warn on the forums you come by (or any other admin) and just straight up deny it without even knowing any context to it (you know what im talking about) but i guess it couldve been corrected with a simple explanation

i have nothing against xnator but all i want is fair judgement. Treat all the same