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TOPIC: [SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard
[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036919
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AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Dr Richard wrote:
dankek wrote:
You don't know the rap sheet of the user who got banned, you don't know his attitude, you don't know what he has done up until that point, you don't know what he said to warrant such a long ban in the first place. Mass RDMing with multiple punishments on your rapsheet, even more so if there are multiple recent Mass RDM punishments can easily warrant a one month ban.  That's what i was about to write, you read my mind... A 1 month ban should only be given if there are recent bans included on the rapsheet. You begin at a few days and work your way up to the month. That's what the ethos is about. Fair and equal treatment. If someone comes back a ban of 5 recent punishments of Mass RDM, then you double the ban length. If they do it again, you do it again. You can't just automatically give someone a month long ban because they have say 5 recents all pertaining to Mass RDM. They should have been banned 2-3 punishments ago, but this is hypothetical. Richard how about you tell us if he had a recent ban (or just tell us your side of the story) rather than tiptoeing around it and trying to meme your demote request. Like c'mon. Not taking any sides but based on your logic: STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Richard Woodfield (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Banned on 22/09/2018 - 17:25:28 for 2 week(s) with reason 7 Recent Punishments + RDM + Lying To Staff STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Dr Richard (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Updated Ban on 23/10/2018 - 18:13:26 for 2 week(s) with reason 5 Recent Punishements + Ignoring Sit + Constantly Rule Breaking [Mass RDM] - Minimal intention to RP He did the exact same length. Well I think the first one is still excessive. But again, I don't have any background info on that. The second one shouldn't have minimal intention to RP since you can't really punish for that. The other two I consider warnings, so really, he would only have 7 recents. A week max at that. The first one should still be a week max depending on what the situation is or if he had recent bans. What are you all not understanding about me saying that? Well, you did say that admins should slowly double the ban length if they repeatedly break the same offences, which he did. Did you even look at the time stamps for those bans? |
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036921
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TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Dr Richard wrote:
dankek wrote:
You don't know the rap sheet of the user who got banned, you don't know his attitude, you don't know what he has done up until that point, you don't know what he said to warrant such a long ban in the first place. Mass RDMing with multiple punishments on your rapsheet, even more so if there are multiple recent Mass RDM punishments can easily warrant a one month ban. That's what i was about to write, you read my mind... A 1 month ban should only be given if there are recent bans included on the rapsheet. You begin at a few days and work your way up to the month. That's what the ethos is about. Fair and equal treatment. If someone comes back a ban of 5 recent punishments of Mass RDM, then you double the ban length. If they do it again, you do it again. You can't just automatically give someone a month long ban because they have say 5 recents all pertaining to Mass RDM. They should have been banned 2-3 punishments ago, but this is hypothetical. Richard how about you tell us if he had a recent ban (or just tell us your side of the story) rather than tiptoeing around it and trying to meme your demote request. Like c'mon. Not taking any sides but based on your logic: STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Richard Woodfield (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Banned on 22/09/2018 - 17:25:28 for 2 week(s) with reason 7 Recent Punishments + RDM + Lying To Staff STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Dr Richard (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Updated Ban on 23/10/2018 - 18:13:26 for 2 week(s) with reason 5 Recent Punishements + Ignoring Sit + Constantly Rule Breaking [Mass RDM] - Minimal intention to RP He did the exact same length. Well I think the first one is still excessive. But again, I don't have any background info on that. The second one shouldn't have minimal intention to RP since you can't really punish for that. The other two I consider warnings, so really, he would only have 7 recents. A week max at that. The first one should still be a week max depending on what the situation is or if he had recent bans. What are you all not understanding about me saying that? Well, you did say that admins should slowly double the ban length if they repeatedly break the same offences, which he did. Did you even look at the time stamps for those bans? Yes |
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you were expecting a signature, too bad.
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036922
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AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Dr Richard wrote:
dankek wrote:
You don't know the rap sheet of the user who got banned, you don't know his attitude, you don't know what he has done up until that point, you don't know what he said to warrant such a long ban in the first place. Mass RDMing with multiple punishments on your rapsheet, even more so if there are multiple recent Mass RDM punishments can easily warrant a one month ban. That's what i was about to write, you read my mind... A 1 month ban should only be given if there are recent bans included on the rapsheet. You begin at a few days and work your way up to the month. That's what the ethos is about. Fair and equal treatment. If someone comes back a ban of 5 recent punishments of Mass RDM, then you double the ban length. If they do it again, you do it again. You can't just automatically give someone a month long ban because they have say 5 recents all pertaining to Mass RDM. They should have been banned 2-3 punishments ago, but this is hypothetical. Richard how about you tell us if he had a recent ban (or just tell us your side of the story) rather than tiptoeing around it and trying to meme your demote request. Like c'mon. Not taking any sides but based on your logic: STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Richard Woodfield (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Banned on 22/09/2018 - 17:25:28 for 2 week(s) with reason 7 Recent Punishments + RDM + Lying To Staff STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Dr Richard (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Updated Ban on 23/10/2018 - 18:13:26 for 2 week(s) with reason 5 Recent Punishements + Ignoring Sit + Constantly Rule Breaking [Mass RDM] - Minimal intention to RP He did the exact same length. Well I think the first one is still excessive. But again, I don't have any background info on that. The second one shouldn't have minimal intention to RP since you can't really punish for that. The other two I consider warnings, so really, he would only have 7 recents. A week max at that. The first one should still be a week max depending on what the situation is or if he had recent bans. What are you all not understanding about me saying that? Well, you did say that admins should slowly double the ban length if they repeatedly break the same offences, which he did. Did you even look at the time stamps for those bans? Yes Alright, then you'll notice that the first ban was on the 4th of last month. The second one was from the 22nd of last month. That's more than 2 weeks from the first one. And the last one was from yesterday, a full month from the second one. So basically your argument is invalid and doesn't pertain at all to what I was saying. Recents stay recent for 2 weeks if I remember correctly. Thanks for trying though. Edit: my logic of doubling is based on if the ban was "recent" so you basically look like a fool right now because you obviously didn't read what I said at all.  |
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036924
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036928
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036929
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TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Dr Richard wrote:
dankek wrote:
You don't know the rap sheet of the user who got banned, you don't know his attitude, you don't know what he has done up until that point, you don't know what he said to warrant such a long ban in the first place. Mass RDMing with multiple punishments on your rapsheet, even more so if there are multiple recent Mass RDM punishments can easily warrant a one month ban. That's what i was about to write, you read my mind... A 1 month ban should only be given if there are recent bans included on the rapsheet. You begin at a few days and work your way up to the month. That's what the ethos is about. Fair and equal treatment. If someone comes back a ban of 5 recent punishments of Mass RDM, then you double the ban length. If they do it again, you do it again. You can't just automatically give someone a month long ban because they have say 5 recents all pertaining to Mass RDM. They should have been banned 2-3 punishments ago, but this is hypothetical. Richard how about you tell us if he had a recent ban (or just tell us your side of the story) rather than tiptoeing around it and trying to meme your demote request. Like c'mon. Not taking any sides but based on your logic: STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Richard Woodfield (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Banned on 22/09/2018 - 17:25:28 for 2 week(s) with reason 7 Recent Punishments + RDM + Lying To Staff STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Dr Richard (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Updated Ban on 23/10/2018 - 18:13:26 for 2 week(s) with reason 5 Recent Punishements + Ignoring Sit + Constantly Rule Breaking [Mass RDM] - Minimal intention to RP He did the exact same length. Well I think the first one is still excessive. But again, I don't have any background info on that. The second one shouldn't have minimal intention to RP since you can't really punish for that. The other two I consider warnings, so really, he would only have 7 recents. A week max at that. The first one should still be a week max depending on what the situation is or if he had recent bans. What are you all not understanding about me saying that? Well, you did say that admins should slowly double the ban length if they repeatedly break the same offences, which he did. Did you even look at the time stamps for those bans? Yes Alright, then you'll notice that the first ban was on the 4th of last month. The second one was from the 22nd of last month. That's more than 2 weeks from the first one. And the last one was from yesterday, a full month from the second one. So basically your argument is invalid and doesn't pertain at all to what I was saying. Recents stay recent for 2 weeks if I remember correctly. Thanks for trying though. Edit: my logic of doubling is based on if the ban was "recent" so you basically look like a fool right now because you obviously didn't read what I said at all. Its called taking a break and coming back to the server just to rulebreak  |
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you were expecting a signature, too bad.
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036931
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AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Dr Richard wrote:
dankek wrote:
You don't know the rap sheet of the user who got banned, you don't know his attitude, you don't know what he has done up until that point, you don't know what he said to warrant such a long ban in the first place. Mass RDMing with multiple punishments on your rapsheet, even more so if there are multiple recent Mass RDM punishments can easily warrant a one month ban. That's what i was about to write, you read my mind... A 1 month ban should only be given if there are recent bans included on the rapsheet. You begin at a few days and work your way up to the month. That's what the ethos is about. Fair and equal treatment. If someone comes back a ban of 5 recent punishments of Mass RDM, then you double the ban length. If they do it again, you do it again. You can't just automatically give someone a month long ban because they have say 5 recents all pertaining to Mass RDM. They should have been banned 2-3 punishments ago, but this is hypothetical. Richard how about you tell us if he had a recent ban (or just tell us your side of the story) rather than tiptoeing around it and trying to meme your demote request. Like c'mon. Not taking any sides but based on your logic: STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Richard Woodfield (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Banned on 22/09/2018 - 17:25:28 for 2 week(s) with reason 7 Recent Punishments + RDM + Lying To Staff STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Dr Richard (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Updated Ban on 23/10/2018 - 18:13:26 for 2 week(s) with reason 5 Recent Punishements + Ignoring Sit + Constantly Rule Breaking [Mass RDM] - Minimal intention to RP He did the exact same length. Well I think the first one is still excessive. But again, I don't have any background info on that. The second one shouldn't have minimal intention to RP since you can't really punish for that. The other two I consider warnings, so really, he would only have 7 recents. A week max at that. The first one should still be a week max depending on what the situation is or if he had recent bans. What are you all not understanding about me saying that? Well, you did say that admins should slowly double the ban length if they repeatedly break the same offences, which he did. Did you even look at the time stamps for those bans? Yes Alright, then you'll notice that the first ban was on the 4th of last month. The second one was from the 22nd of last month. That's more than 2 weeks from the first one. And the last one was from yesterday, a full month from the second one. So basically your argument is invalid and doesn't pertain at all to what I was saying. Recents stay recent for 2 weeks if I remember correctly. Thanks for trying though. Edit: my logic of doubling is based on if the ban was "recent" so you basically look like a fool right now because you obviously didn't read what I said at all. Its called taking a break and coming back to the server just to rulebreak You literally said "based on my logic" which my logic for doubling a ban was pretty clearly stated... so like you're dumb and now you're attempting to meme me because you realized that you're wrong. How sad. |
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036932
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TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Dr Richard wrote:
dankek wrote:
You don't know the rap sheet of the user who got banned, you don't know his attitude, you don't know what he has done up until that point, you don't know what he said to warrant such a long ban in the first place. Mass RDMing with multiple punishments on your rapsheet, even more so if there are multiple recent Mass RDM punishments can easily warrant a one month ban. That's what i was about to write, you read my mind... A 1 month ban should only be given if there are recent bans included on the rapsheet. You begin at a few days and work your way up to the month. That's what the ethos is about. Fair and equal treatment. If someone comes back a ban of 5 recent punishments of Mass RDM, then you double the ban length. If they do it again, you do it again. You can't just automatically give someone a month long ban because they have say 5 recents all pertaining to Mass RDM. They should have been banned 2-3 punishments ago, but this is hypothetical. Richard how about you tell us if he had a recent ban (or just tell us your side of the story) rather than tiptoeing around it and trying to meme your demote request. Like c'mon. Not taking any sides but based on your logic: STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Richard Woodfield (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Banned on 22/09/2018 - 17:25:28 for 2 week(s) with reason 7 Recent Punishments + RDM + Lying To Staff STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Dr Richard (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Updated Ban on 23/10/2018 - 18:13:26 for 2 week(s) with reason 5 Recent Punishements + Ignoring Sit + Constantly Rule Breaking [Mass RDM] - Minimal intention to RP He did the exact same length. Well I think the first one is still excessive. But again, I don't have any background info on that. The second one shouldn't have minimal intention to RP since you can't really punish for that. The other two I consider warnings, so really, he would only have 7 recents. A week max at that. The first one should still be a week max depending on what the situation is or if he had recent bans. What are you all not understanding about me saying that? Well, you did say that admins should slowly double the ban length if they repeatedly break the same offences, which he did. Did you even look at the time stamps for those bans? Yes Alright, then you'll notice that the first ban was on the 4th of last month. The second one was from the 22nd of last month. That's more than 2 weeks from the first one. And the last one was from yesterday, a full month from the second one. So basically your argument is invalid and doesn't pertain at all to what I was saying. Recents stay recent for 2 weeks if I remember correctly. Thanks for trying though. Edit: my logic of doubling is based on if the ban was "recent" so you basically look like a fool right now because you obviously didn't read what I said at all. Its called taking a break and coming back to the server just to rulebreak You literally said "based on my logic" which my logic for doubling a ban was pretty clearly stated... so like you're dumb and now you're attempting to meme me because you realized that you're wrong. How sad. The person who was banned is clearly a troll, only playing to break rules, maybe consider that? |
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you were expecting a signature, too bad.
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036933
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036935
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AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
AlphaLyle wrote:
TheCorgi wrote:
Dr Richard wrote:
dankek wrote:
You don't know the rap sheet of the user who got banned, you don't know his attitude, you don't know what he has done up until that point, you don't know what he said to warrant such a long ban in the first place. Mass RDMing with multiple punishments on your rapsheet, even more so if there are multiple recent Mass RDM punishments can easily warrant a one month ban. That's what i was about to write, you read my mind... A 1 month ban should only be given if there are recent bans included on the rapsheet. You begin at a few days and work your way up to the month. That's what the ethos is about. Fair and equal treatment. If someone comes back a ban of 5 recent punishments of Mass RDM, then you double the ban length. If they do it again, you do it again. You can't just automatically give someone a month long ban because they have say 5 recents all pertaining to Mass RDM. They should have been banned 2-3 punishments ago, but this is hypothetical. Richard how about you tell us if he had a recent ban (or just tell us your side of the story) rather than tiptoeing around it and trying to meme your demote request. Like c'mon. Not taking any sides but based on your logic: STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Richard Woodfield (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Banned on 22/09/2018 - 17:25:28 for 2 week(s) with reason 7 Recent Punishments + RDM + Lying To Staff STEAM_0:1:426739601 punished by Dr Richard (STEAM_0:0:79280795). Updated Ban on 23/10/2018 - 18:13:26 for 2 week(s) with reason 5 Recent Punishements + Ignoring Sit + Constantly Rule Breaking [Mass RDM] - Minimal intention to RP He did the exact same length. Well I think the first one is still excessive. But again, I don't have any background info on that. The second one shouldn't have minimal intention to RP since you can't really punish for that. The other two I consider warnings, so really, he would only have 7 recents. A week max at that. The first one should still be a week max depending on what the situation is or if he had recent bans. What are you all not understanding about me saying that? Well, you did say that admins should slowly double the ban length if they repeatedly break the same offences, which he did. Did you even look at the time stamps for those bans? Yes Alright, then you'll notice that the first ban was on the 4th of last month. The second one was from the 22nd of last month. That's more than 2 weeks from the first one. And the last one was from yesterday, a full month from the second one. So basically your argument is invalid and doesn't pertain at all to what I was saying. Recents stay recent for 2 weeks if I remember correctly. Thanks for trying though. Edit: my logic of doubling is based on if the ban was "recent" so you basically look like a fool right now because you obviously didn't read what I said at all. Its called taking a break and coming back to the server just to rulebreak You literally said "based on my logic" which my logic for doubling a ban was pretty clearly stated... so like you're dumb and now you're attempting to meme me because you realized that you're wrong. How sad. The person who was banned is clearly a troll, only playing to break rules, maybe consider that? okay... that still doesn't pertain at all to my logic. that's a completely different scenario from me talking about doubling a ban. Maybe if you took the time to actually read the things I previously said in this thread you'd be enlightened onto my opinion and thoughts. And since I've already answered that in this thread, feel free to look for it and actually read things that I write. |
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036936
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036938
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036939
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036943
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[SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard 6 years 2 months ago #1036959
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Hello,
I had a look through your demote request and had an in-depth talk with Richard and after
some time looking into this I have come to a conclusion. Our job as staff members are to protect the user experience and the staff ethos is meant to be a guidline to help staff members (even if it is treated like a policy) and its there to improve staff members decision and judgement and not hinder them from their job. I have taken the time to look through the users rapsheet and I have found out that the user has been banned multiple times time and time again, coming back ban after ban, and every time he comes back he gets multiple punishments and gets a long ban for recents and mass rdming. To add more to this, this time around not only was he repeating past mistakes he already knows and has been punished for in the past in order not to do the same rulebreaks again but he was also impeding the staff member's work in the sit and clearly had no intention to roleplay at any point. I want to add to this that this user has arguably been banned for a longer time that he has actually played on the server; use this as a metric to draw a conclusion yourself. 
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