TOPIC: [SSRP] Demote Request - Dr Richard

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holy fuck almost a month ban? for 5 recents and "ignoring the sit"

are you... are you joking??????

Indeed justice is needed

idc what this is about but u'll get a

dindu nuffin

It was reduced 30 minutes ago after i had a chat with Mr Fombasto. This is the ban:Lul this is the first demote request on me, ever...

Seems like he was just trying to get this guy for everything possible to warrant a ban "Ignoring sit, minimal intention to RP"
And even still, it is rather excessive

Dr Richard wrote:
Even so, 2 weeks? was there a recent ban in his 5 recents? Ignoring the sit usually only gets a warning. You can't ban or punish for "minimal intention to RP" as this isn't a serious RP server. Mass RDM also isn't grounds for a ban, usually a warning or a jail. So really before the ban, we'd be looking at 7 recents (including the ignoring sit and mass rdm). No recent ban? a Week max probably. Not 2, not 3 not even 3 days. A week is what you want.

And when you make dumb decisions you get called out for it. Have fun being a staff member.

Edit: also just because you changed it doesn't negate this request. If it gets accepted you'll probably just be retrained anyway.

TheCorgi wrote:
He was being strict on a person who do not even attempt to play the server legally

I think I know who he banned and he honestly should of been month banned for everything he has done

Also I didn’t get around to dealing with the person that was banned but that recent count should be around 7 if I had gotten around to warning him

:Minussp:

Comfy wrote:
what? Are you suggesting that illegal aliens are playing the sacred ZARP server????????

Mr Red X wrote:
Timestamp says 19:13, so he didn't. it was about 30 minutes ago

You don't know the rap sheet of the user who got banned, you don't know his attitude, you don't know what he has done up until that point, you don't know what he said to warrant such a long ban in the first place. Mass RDMing with multiple punishments on your rapsheet, even more so if there are multiple recent Mass RDM punishments can easily warrant a one month ban.

dankek wrote:
That's what i was about to write, you read my mind...

dankek wrote: Didn’t get around to dealing with him Yesterday but he should of had 2 more warns ontop of the 5 for mass prop block and mass rdm

dankek wrote:
Wrong... he got banned for 5 recent punishments + ignoring sit +Mass RDM and minimal intention to RP.
You're just trying to justify his nonsense ban but it is clearly false and he should clearly be spoken to and maybe retrained for the way he punishes users. Banning a user for 3 weeks for 5 recents is basically corruption.

Dr Richard wrote:
A 1 month ban should only be given if there are recent bans included on the rapsheet. You begin at a few days and work your way up to the month. That's what the ethos is about. Fair and equal treatment. If someone comes back a ban of 5 recent punishments of Mass RDM, then you double the ban length. If they do it again, you do it again. You can't just automatically give someone a month long ban because they have say 5 recents all pertaining to Mass RDM. They should have been banned 2-3 punishments ago, but this is hypothetical.

Richard how about you tell us if he had a recent ban (or just tell us your side of the story) rather than tiptoeing around it and trying to meme your demote request. Like c'mon.

TheCorgi wrote: K guy who knows everything read my comments plus he had a shitty attitude and constantly was breaking the rules with no regard for other players and should have been banned way before this happened

Comfy wrote:
You're irrelevant. Anyways, if you believe this 3 week ban is deserved you should be retrained alongside Richard.

Comfy wrote:
I did read your comments. I was a Head Admin for a while. I know what I'm talking about. Unless they magically changed the Ethos (which I HIGHLY doubt) nothing has changed. So you can take your bad attitude and shove it. I'm trying to help you guys understand the way administrating works and how banning people works, since ya know you were supposed to be taught that during your training. It doesn't matter how bad his attitude is, or how many rules he breaks. You ban his based on his recents and what he is currently doing. You start small and work your way up.

Edit: you're a mod... what do you even know about banning/the proper way to ban? you weren't trained to nor do you have the command to.

TheCorgi wrote: I disagree with this notion. I know what you're talking about doubling the ban length, but imo it has always been a terrible way to deal with rulebreakers. People get chances; perhaps this time they got a little too many, and richie just banned the guy for a huge amount of time that reflects the punishments on his rap sheet.

Hate to bring it down to you though, but the staff ethos is a bunch of guidelines. Nothing more than that. If they get in the way of protecting the user's experience, you'll get a fucking hell of a ban hammer in your face, that reflects the amount of times you've been a cunt in the duration you've been in the server. Of course, time between the punishments and logic should be accounted. E.g. I'd easily permaban a guy who has a rap sheet with one or two mass rdms on his rap sheet every couple of weeks, because that motherfucker is exploiting the ethos.
Another example would be a user who returns from a permaban, and about a month after being unbanned he starts doing the same shit he did which caused the permaban; you bet that I'd warn the person to be cautious and aware. Next time he pulls some of this dumb shit again, it's a permaban, I wouldn't even give a fuck, he'd fully deserve it and he's clearly not changed yet he's playing on the server with that being the premise.