TOPIC: @FluffyOP - Apology

Still waiting for Fluffy to see this.

Bumping this one last time

Ugh, next time better be carefull who you kick and maybe talk to him. Lucky you that this is going to be refunded!

Pegasus wrote:
According to his post he did attempt to discuss this with Fluffy, but he decided to act like a child and lash out. Ashur isn't "lucky" that it'll be refunded. While a kick might be seen as too much, he was well within his right to correct what he saw was a rulebreak. The lucky one is Fluffy, because even though he broke rules and was apparently being an ass, he's still getting an apology and offers to repay him in some format. Now, this is all hearsay without proof showing how it went down, but if what Ashur said is true, there is no need for this post.

ChummyXRay wrote: This is what i told them, but i guess that it's just the fact his main crashed aswell and he had printers doen, but if the LT Meeting says i was right, then this will be locked without a doubt

ChummyXRay wrote: I talked to Spoder who handled the situation and apperently the misconduct was on Ashurs side. Of course I wasn’t present but for now I’ll believe Spoder and help him correct the situation.

Pegasus wrote: Nobody saw whqt happened except from me and him, they all ganged up against me when i kicked him without meknowing that it was Fluffy's ALT, after i kicked him for obviously refusing to listen etc he came onn his main and called me a dick, and then they all started harassing me.

If he was being a cunt on his alt, he should be punished on every account he owns...

Bobby Bobbys wrote: Hence why i kicked him, no clue who he was, no recents or not, he refused to listen, im starting to get the confidence now, i felt what i did was right and i still do, this is practically another forced apology

ChummyXRay wrote:
The kick command is only used under extreme circumstances with extreme circumstances i mean with if an user is propspamming and refusing to remove his props or his mass rdming even after a 10 minutes jail/freeze. and that wasn't the case in this situation. This could be easily resolved with a mute, warn and if needed freeze for 5 minutes. The alts rapsheet was clear so there's another reason why a kick was also obviously excessive. Even if he knew him or not the kick was absolutely unneeded and it ruined his rp.

Staff Ethos say’s it all...

spodermon wrote:
I know the commands and I know when to use them. I have plenty of experience staffing within Zarp on SSRP. What I said was that while a kick was probably not needed, the staff member was not abusing to do so. You do not freeze as a punishment, unless things have changed since I resigned from HA a few months ago. If it hasn't, I'm confused why you are trying to inform me how to use powers when you're off base as well. The player could have avoided any issues by actually following the rules. It's ridiculous to expect a public apology and some form of compensation when you are to listen to the instructions given to you by staff.

ChummyXRay wrote: The reason i kicked him was because he refused to listen to me, instead of saying Okay i'm sorry i'll leave the district, he disrespected me, twice when i asked him twice to leave, and when i said then i'll tp u out and warn you, he tried to RDM me.

Pegasus wrote: I was going to do that at first, but if you read my post above this one, you'll probably understand where i am coming from as a "new" moderator

Pegasus wrote:
Exactly, that's why he should've used the freeze command/warn/mute. And hence the kick command was unnecessary excessive force
Also @chummy
zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/server-is...to-the-mods?start=15

spodermon wrote: Let me just quote what you said and R-FLEX
"R-FLEX: It does. Its more likely for someone to leave when frozen for 10 minutes than jailed. While jailed you can move around and feel punished. Frozen feels like the admin you froze you forgot to unfreeze you and so you rejoin"

You: "This is exactly what i mean"

Also if i would've frozen him, an admin would've definetily unfrozen him

spodermon wrote:
I doubt muting will help mass rule breaks... He was mass nlring and disrespecting and ignoring staff, the rule breaker deserves it, if anything, he should be punished on his main aswell...

Ashur wrote:
I'm not gonna dive bomb into this thread anylonger but, you knew damn well that you should not have kicked him,btw you might wanna read the other posts aswell.

And I know for sure that he wasn't mass nlring you could've easily asked for a jail if you feel 'uncomfortable ' with the freeze command and you can warn aswell. Nevertheless his rapsheet was also completely clean. Again this could've easily been resolved with a (talk) mute, warn and if deemed necessary a 10 min freeze

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN STAFF DISCRETION DOESNT EXIST
FORCED APOLOGIES

GIVE POWER TO THE STAFF MEMBER

4Head

Unfair...
R-Flex (Was an Admin but now changed name to X something)
kicked me too ;-; but he didn't refund me >< XD