TOPIC: Paramontana's Confession

Jacob wrote: I don't even know him, it was a joke. Please don't kill me

Haythamm wrote:
Well can you stop " joking " and freeposting then? This is a serious topic.

Jacob wrote: OK

Well to me he deserves to be perm banned.
He has worked hard to get SA and now he
has proven that that means nothing to him
and that he couldn't respect his superiors less
he is a liar and a cheat no different to anyone
using hacks.

ParaMontana wrote:
You are just nasty, very, very fucking nasty.




















Don't give me that bullshit that you warn people that hack first. Because you don't. There are COUNTLESS amount of times someone got instantly banned once they got spotted doing so.

I didn't mind you before, but now you just went too far.
The only thing you can is lie, lie and lie. I hope you get demoted for good.

JarredInator wrote:
Yeah thats exactly how i work. and that is how the lead team wants other sto work. First ask them to turn it off. then if they dont stop warn them. after that ban them.

Being a super admin shouldn't change the way they are punished just like being a vip doesnt change the way that they are punished

The Amazing Seal wrote:
It is hilarious how people do not read every comment that has been put down. i have already told people in a post that i don't want special treatment.

Jacob wrote:
Jabbe i never thought id say this, but your bloody right, as stated in my post, Para should not be let off, "We warn them first" Another bit of bullshit, if you see someone speeding around the map, you dont say, "Turn it off please, thanks " you say "Ok, your getting banned sir", can i also mention, you cant warn someone for hacking because the anti cheat already would of banned him, but because Para was SA, he had access to the anti cheat, so it wouldn't detect him. Thank you for putting it into good words Jacob.

You do want special treatment becuase you are blaming it on ADHD etc even if you did lie because of that you wouldn't of paniced when you installed the hacks

And now here's my honest opinion about hacking and Paramontana's situation.

1. Hacking is not allowed, period, but the degree of punishment should be proportionate to the hack used and the way in which it was used, in Para's case, he didn't harm anyone by bhopping cloaked around the map did he? So, as I would if I discovered any other person using this kind of hack, I'd warn them and ask them to stop.

2. Lying to the lead team. It's bad. But, as many people do say, mistakes and misjudgments like this are made. I will openly say that I've made similar mistakes to him, on degree of magnitude, such as accidentally godding someone and forgetting about it, so when they got raided the raid failed. I was talked too, and it was a mistake, so I got let off for the most part. (We rectified the mistake.)

So, I don't want Para demoted. I'm sure many people here don't. Let's be honest, he's our friend and a great guy, he didn't use the hacks to damage the server in anyway, just to have a little bit of fun. This is objective. Who was damaged by his hacks? No one. Lying to the lead team was the bad part, but everyone has to make mistakes someday, even the best.

Exrobite wrote:
You pay for your mistakes Exro, and when he lied about hacking, that makes it alot worse.

Dallas$ wrote:
If it was an eye for an eye the whole world would be blind.

Im locking this post since this turned into a really big minge fest, I offered ParaMontana to lock it and he said yes.

Anyways, I don't think he should get demoted, he didn't harm anybody, and he paniced. Thats just my opinion.

Hoi wrote: Its not a minge fest. Its people sharing their feelings and options about the situation. I'll throw my option in on the situation, regardless of if it was just Bhop scripting (because it very easly could have been other things, aimbot, esp, ext). Everything here at ZARP revolves around trust. When we give someone staff thats us putting our trust in them and when someone breaks one of the most critical rules and then repeatedly lies straight to our faces it destroys that trust. Unfortanly for those who are in that position trust is not something that can be rebulit with a simple thread, its something that takes time and decidaction to rebuild. Take from that what you will, but I think it illustrates how I feel about the situation.

I'm going to leave this thread unlocked so long as people continue to contructivly share their options(both positive and negtive ones).

100% agree EMP.

Hacking is hacking. He could've been using aimbot or other sorts of hacks, it doesn't matter. Any sort of hacks shouldn't be allowed in this community. Especially when it's used by a staff member.

EMP wrote:

I also have to agree with EMP. ParaMontana choose to share this with community, so he should be aware he's going to get both negative and positive criticism. If sharing our opinion is worth this thread being locked, then every thread on these forums should be locked.

Don't make a thread if you don't want people to share their thoughts and opinions.

i was approached by both Chute and HOI. which offered to delete the thread and hoi offered to close it . because Certain people were derailing the threat. Thank you very much

1.4 Client Side Modification (hacking) - Do not attempt to modify your client to gain an advantage on our server. This includes, but isn't limited to: hacks and scripts.

Bhopping isn't even that hard.
You could have just learned instead of using a script.

Shouldn't be completely demoted. But should be demoted to something like moderator. I know you didn't do it for a harmfull way. [Atleast I think so] But you should still be punished.

Anyway dont you get kicked first [Warn] and then banned if you do it again?
[This is the script right?]