TOPIC: Why SSRP?

Morgan wrote:
True words from the big man Morgan. Another thing to add to this is that it's hard for a new player to stay playing on the server. The reason is that if you join this cool server with a lot of custom plugins and as soon as you try printing or start making money and get rolled by someone in a 500m suit why would you keep playing? There is a very big disparity between new players and existing players. This means that even as people grow up, get busy and leave the server if there are just a few people with really OP gear it still causes people to not want to play. I noticed this all the way back when I was staff with the weapons getting more and more OP and if you didn't have 100m+ you wouldn't be able to do much. There was a time when people were excited for every update that came out because it meant new and better items but ironically this loop of new items and needing to one-up previous items to appeal to the player base caused the downfall. I could be completely wrong but from my POV this is what I can see to be an issue. Overall it is very hard to fix because in the end to fix it will be drastic changes and resets that realistically are not feasible.

Snake_ wrote:
He already left the server like a month ago, but playerbase hasn't increased

TrueOverL wrote: JMT was the only reason I played

Because i'm not a legendary member

Sophia wrote: Never will be

Aspect wrote: Nah mate it was just bad

Just a question about your points in this paragraph. Why is it a negative thing if the want for a new server with a fresh database (while keeping current database) is based on nostalgia? Surely this would be giving the player base what they want? I understand that you may think that any new database server made would die out quickly but i really don't think it would. However, i'm not a CM and i haven't experienced what happened with FP so obviously i don't have the experience to fully give detailed points with evidence but surely giving the players what they want would mean more players.

Also, whats the worst that could happen if the new database server died? We could confidently say that we gave it a go and that the communities input was listened to, but overall it didn't work out. Aside from the loss of any expenses i don't really see anything wrong with giving it a go.

Thanks

Sophia wrote:
r u alive

Pie_ wrote:
Exactly, either zarp ssrp dies completely in a few months or the dev team tries something new and actually has the hopes of reviving zarp ssrp, even if those hopes are low. Either way worst outcome is ssrp being dead and at the current pace it will get there quite quickly

If everyone who commented on this post would just come online the server's player base would increase, all thats left for us as a community is attracting and teaching new players how to play.

Next up we need the help from the CM team by reseting and recreating a gang system with a limit of 5 members per gang.

AfroHat wrote:
Dang man this guy just solved clue 6

AfroHat wrote:
Buddy trust, i myself have tried playing on zarp ssrp for years & latest attempt was yesterday. All of the 8 players that were online at the time were afk so what is the point of playing? Even at the time of writing this reply there is only 1 player online. This server has become a perfect example of real world cash. The rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer. There is literally no point in playing on this server under these circumstances. Might as well just join one of the popular roleplay servers that dont have that rich=richer, poor=poorer meta.

Also, zarp ssrp has reached a platitude where half of the server suggests one thing and the other half suggests another thing and both parties hate the others suggestion. That divide has clearly been created by the owners, LT and whoever else has a say on this server.

With every reply to this post that i see, the more obvious it becomes that this server can not be saved. As someone before me mentioned, the owners etc have had YEARS to fix the problems that plague this server but nothing has been done, AKA proving to the community that the owners do NOT care about the longevity of this server.

They have blatantly denied all the suggestions made in this topic and throughout 5+ years & that will only keep alienating the remaining players from this server. Based on all these replies from higher up staff members, i can only see Zarp ssrp being completely dead in a few months unless something drastic is done, but lets face it, that ''something drastic'' will never happen as the owners etc are stuck in their comfort zone and are clearly afraid to make any real changes, not understanding the fact that zarp ssrp will definitely die by next summer (next summer is even a gracious prediction, will probably die even earlier).

Its just basic human nature that people are afraid of change & that is exactly what is going on with the server owners and whoever else has a deciding factor on here. I have been and still am a supporter of Zarp and would give so many chances to this server if only there was anything to show that the owners actually want zarp to succeed again. I have sunk so much of my money and time into Zarp ssrp that it pains me to see this community die. My replies are not based off of nostalgia for the good old times but rather i & so many other community members acknowledge the fact that Zarp actually was better back in the day & that is proven with the amount of players that this server had.

If everything was up to the communities standards then zarp ssrp wouldnt be sitting at a max 8 players or 1 player at the time of writing this. I do not mean to be rude but as someone else already said, the owners are only laughing at us who are writing literal paragraphs just in hopes of saving this server & if literally EVERY suggestion is turned down then what the actual fuck was the point of even making this topic?

Edit: also dont come at me for something that is spelled or expressed incorrectly, English is not my native language & i think i expressed my thoughts clearly enough for everyone to understand.

so many valid points on this post.

Eco reset defo wont help, played on enough servers and games to realize that doesn't work, just makes many players want to leave with a "WTF" attitude.

i personally do not see any harm in another SSRP server being put up and that is used for trialing new changes that people suggest. This server is separate from the main SSRP servers.
Worst case is the new server that is used to trial new suggestions for changing SSRP for the better doesn't work at all, and ends up being removed, or it could work and save atleast the SSRP part, so why whouldn't you try.

the economy within the main SSRP is not good, the stupid amounts of money within it is over the top, it should have had a market cap within, including a cap on item quantity within the market(opens up opportunities for new roles, such as a pawn brokers, or other little internal business for item exchange/shops)


do i think the community team within zarp has done enough, no, unfortunately i do believe chute is never going to be willing to change, or trialing other risky moves in fear of FP happing to zarp.

furthermore, trialing better options won't make a difference in long run to the community dyeing as it is on the verge of going as is, trialing will either speed up the inevitable, or save it

Martin wrote: I bolded the portion I am concerned with, again. If you're treating this as an experiment, then giving the testers every item is a confounding variable, creating bias as they simply had fun and are providing positive feedback because they had everything to carelessly mess around with. If you want true convicting evidence and feedback you should of taken this variable into account as you can't just rely on the feedback of people having everything, as the issue at hand is the server is both not getting new users and no users coming on. It would have been wiser to receive feedback given that the testers did not have every item in the game. This feedback favors those having everything and just pushes those new players or players that do not have much underneath the fridge. It does not help that regardless of those with items still do not truly want to play. These issues need to be evaluated on why no one wants to play, and simply put, you guys have an issue on your plate that is combined of the communities response to the map, the new player experience, and just in general the communities response to the issues of the server presented on this thread, and likely more that I could not think of. To end, all this does not have an easy answer.

TheXnator wrote: I am (and have been for 2 years) unable to find any zarp server in the server list as it stands. The "ranking" has gone to shit and you seem too stubborn to accept it. Sure you might still have a very small dedicated playerbase left over but it's a fraction of what it once was. What you had was an entirely unique and insanely fun gaming experience and you ruined it with a myriad of bad decisions but you seem too stubborn to accept that too.
As VeGo said, you have no reason to not just try a new server. Come up with a completely new concept if you feel so inclined, but take community feedback into major account. Zarp will be dead and 6 feet under in another year give or take, gmod is a dying game at its core and you'll go with it all the faster if you don't try something new.

Ngl, i get they keep saying a new server is off the table, but i genuinely dont see why. Especialy with the closing of minecraft (could always close TTT too, dead fucking server smh). Like as others are saying what is the downside, many old players WOULD come back to play, even if it is for a few weeks its worth a try. And im sure a lot of old LT/Staff would be willing to help.

I get the initial setup would take a bit of time but its better than pouring time into other current SSRP content (that literaly 3 people will actively play). If there is some big technical reach that im overlooking please let me know. But just saying its not going to happen makes it seem like your neglecting a large majority of the communitys view without saying a reason why?

Shae wrote:
Buddy, TTT is not dead, tf u saying

RubyTheSlump wrote:


it was a joke bro

Shae wrote:
Just remove all the servers with 0 playerbase



But for real though, I asked about the Minecraft server, what are your plans for it, and they just said "Wait for weekend for update!" Or something like that, and they just closed it down. Gencorp faction really killed server

TrueOverL wrote: No, Jay House simply dominated the entire server until everyone quit because they were inferior to Jay House