TOPIC: [Serious] Clarity on why JMT wasn't fully demoted?

Hi SSRP LT,

I'm requesting some reasoning behind the decision behind JMT's demotion to moderator and some reasoning to why it was not a full demotion. As has been said many a time, Zarp has a zero tolerance racism policy and racism usually involves serious punishment even in the first offense case. JMT however clearly has history and hasn't changed his attitude. People have discussed the chances he's had in his appeal so I have no understanding as to why he's not been fully demoted?
As Sally put in his appeal:So why has he been only demoted to moderator? There must be something more to this. I know in a similar situation on bhop or surf I would expect the other LT to also want this kind of user off the staff team.
I have posted this here rather than in private messages as I believe the community deserves clarity on this.

Cheers,
Euan

Clarity isn’t needed, he fucked up and owned up to it.

Jawson wrote: Fucking up by misuing commands is a mistake, racism like that isn't a one off oppsie.

People used to get fully demoted for accidentally breaking nlr. He should have been demoted!

Markus wrote:
Or "FailRP"

You literally thanked Ceo's message where he answered this question
CEO of Business wrote:

Hi euan,

I've already explained this in DMs but I just wanted to include my message here so that the wider community can understand the thought process behind the demotion to moderator a little more:

I personally voted for a demotion to moderator given that I felt an official warning wasn’t enough however that he should be given some degree of leniency based on the fact that, without being approached about it, he went and apologised and clearly felt incredibly bad about what he’d done, and has done a very good job ad a staff member. I was between a full demotion and a demotion to moderator but given his time as a staff member recently and the fact that he did clearly show a lot of remorse, a demotion to moderator was a fair punishment.

If anyone else has any questions or concerns regarding the decision, feel free to contact any member of the SSRP Lead Team or the Community Team and we will be more than happy to explain!

Hi,

I personally voted for a Full - Demotion, I thought that giving him a official warning was to soft. In my opinion after making such a mistake, in my eyes it would be unfair to not punish / slightly punish a staff member for saying the same word than a user who says it and gets heavily punished. But what Xnator already explained, he instantly apologised and felt bad about what he has done.

Personally I've experienced JMT apart from his annoying-childish behaviour towards Martin, did a great job as Administrator. He is a idiot but always shown dedication and effort in his work.

xDutchCat wrote: He somehow got demoted before me. That's weird xd

Kubafx1234 wrote:
This joke wasn't funny the first time you made it, it won't be funny the third time either.

ITztrain wrote:

PZGrens wrote: Clearly didn't work considering he's appealing it

TheXnator wrote:
It doesn't matter what his position is, a staff member that represents the community was racist. Anything else than a full demotion looks like we don't fully disavow his conduct.

Kubafx1234 wrote:
Something you are proud of? It is not funny that someone got justice for what he has done.
You've made mistakes yourself aswell. I shouldn't be laughing at the fact just because he got earlier 'demoted' than you that you will get support. Something you should not be proud of due to the seriousness of the demote

xDutchCat wrote:

xDutchCat wrote:

AtomicLegend wrote: mini 2.0 incident

xDutchCat wrote: o

Neilsen wrote: Goes from saying the N word to chastising other staff about their behaviour within a few days, JMT truly is built differently

I know your statements, and I know JMT did something very wrong, but there is no need to further escalate the situation like this.

Making a forum topic about this was frivolous imo, euan. You could’ve messaged SSRP LT through discord, but nope you had to make a forum topic. All this is doing is making JMT feel worse about himself and bringing no further investigation to the already handled situation.

Maybe I’m wrong, but you should’ve just private messaged the LT on discord.