TOPIC: What made you stay?

I'll leave my response soon, there is so much to add and my suggestion of fixing the issues up but I don't want to push these changes into the gamemode without hearing your guys opinions first, it's about time we did something about the current meta most importantly and revamp so much old shit that have not been touched in years.

We're listening to you guys, I understand this may be hard to believe due to the past but we really want to make ZARP the best server again by doing all we can possibly do to bring back that experience without bad ideas such as resetting the economy, removing items, etc.

First of all, I would suggest keeping this topic opened as long as you can to discuss it with the LT / Owners and hear from everyone since making an actual change to the server to bring new players is almost impossible at this point.

the main factor that made the server fall down like this, is the lack of communication with the community for example (when the owners/cms decide to add new items during an update they don't give it much thought as it should be, in my opinion, that matter should be discussed with everyone before making the decision since adding items that nobody wants doesn't really make any sense for example the mummy suit which can have up to 1500 hp with x3 the normal damage that suit was unneeded I remember when the jugg suit came out and it had a normal speed so that caused a problem that it was instantly changed to 0.5 the speed so how does the mummy suit compare to it if it has 3 lives and up to 1500hp with a normal speed and x3 damage it is just out of the ordinary, don't get me wrong but suits are fun but I don't think they should have come this far with R&D, instead try to develop new meta's or let the community decide like back in 2015 people would have a bind for SVU and L85 then in 2016 when the psg was buffed it turned into Psg and l85, m24 nowadays I really don't see my self playing the server unless when I see some friends that are willing to use normal weapons to play some pvp in the pd I mean you have no chance agains't someone in anysuit unless his not moving, simply to test this just make an alt and joini zarp with 100k and try to do activities like the server was famous for such as drug dealling / trading / printing / basing, even roleplaying is impossible.

my suggestion for the current state of the server is to remove server 2 and make a new one IDC about the name but just make it a normal roleplaying server with the community's suggestions I promise you it would be a success since s2 atm is for mining only, I only clarified one issue which is fighting meta's but the server had many more that's why this topic is really important to stay open as long as possible. also, bring the old PD or open the floors on this one it is literally so small that you can't even take cover, also i would say Clarky knows better at what could be fixed since he has been here for so long and that's why i voted for him.

how about I tell you what made me leave

As a first, im glad you're actually asking the community. But i think the economy is to far to add new stuff. I'd suggest we need to focus on bringing the money down thats currently on the server. The easiest way is probably to nerf the suits and change the way you can get obtain a suit. But doing so will get alot of players mad.

I would like to thank everyone who has put time into suggesting things for the community. We now know that people do care about what happens but never really suggested anything but nothing *would* have happened and this was a massive oversite in what we were doing beforehand.

I will be looking through them all later on and we will present some of the meta changing ideas that we have had and see if you agree on them.

Thanks

I can probably speak for a lot of the community by saying the competition between gangs made the server interesting to play. This along with the items unique to just this server (Special weapons, suits etc) made me feel like i had something to work towards. I joined at the end of December 2016, probably mid way through the Christmas update because a friend (Wizard) recommended that we play here. We logged on, ran over to crack house into the building that is now the elevator base, and slapped down some printers. We were probably there for like 5 minutes before someone came over and raided us. Once they found out that we had just started however, they placed down a full set of VIP printers. This is probably the main reason i joined back the next day. Nowadays, though, players are too hostile with the new players. It also doesn't help that the new players can't fight the more experienced (richer, because experience does nothing on Zarp anymore) players because of the huge gap between weapons available at the start and at the end of the, i suppose you could say, progression system the server has to offer.

I do agree that there should be some kind of motive to keep playing and progressing towards a goal, but i also believe there should be less of a gap between the rich and the poor. This as a whole would likely decrease the amount of hostility towards the newer players. Another thing i think would help newer players along would be a visualisation of how far they have progressed. Maybe there could be some sort of "checklist system" that new players would have access to which marks an item off the list once complete. I'm fairly sure Rust added something like this for this exact reason. Think of it as more of a step-by-step guide for new players to help them get started.

Gangs. The gang system needs to be reworked. How about instead of the leaderboard basing the rankings off of the amount of money/upgrades a gang has, and instead how much gang loot they have collected. I also believe that there should be a change to how gang loot is obtained. Instead of every gang in the server dropping gang loot from their items, make it so that only gangs with, say 3, gang upgrades or more would drop gang loot. This gives players more of an incentive to raid bigger gangs for the higher ranking on the leaderboard. I know this could be abused, but if players are doing that, they probably don't deserve to be playing on the server because they're taking all the fun out of the system.

Anyways, that's just my two cents on the situation. Thanks for spending the time to read this.

Bunnyslippers69 wrote:
On the idea of gangs would you agree that gang loot from higher gangs that is spawned should come out of the gang so that it actually means something to raid a gang with gang loot. Meaning that if you raid a gang with a large amount it will take 5k out of their gang loot and make it so it spawns maybe 5.2k gang loot on the floor so that you can pick it up?

DEADMONSTOR wrote:
Sounds like a great idea to me. That would make people want to go after the higher up gangs, which can only be a good thing in my eyes.

Mr Red X wrote: Thats why Broccoli existed

Having DEADMONSTOR as Owner

DEADMONSTOR wrote: Does this also mean that if the community does not agree with changes they will be reverted? or will we have to wait 2 years and 2 community polls to change it back.

Eric Ericson wrote: I doubt the mummy is going to be removed when to be fair most people don't even want it in the game, including people who own it.

Cookiezi wrote:
Removed no but I will nerf it to a state that people will like playing with it and like playing against it

AFKminer wrote:
Reset will never happen and you wouldn't even like it if it happen

DEADMONSTOR wrote: where did i say i wanted the mummy to be removed?

Promise of Murder 2, like the frick?

Eric Ericson wrote:
I guess that was suggested due to the word "reverted"

Wolfi wrote:

You were promised that by someone who didn't win the race to CM.

DEADMONSTOR wrote:
Can I change my vote?

By far, the most fun period of time for me HAS to be 2017 summer with the mega 3 months or whatever, when items were massively abundant and the playing fields were relatively level. I didn't even play properly but it was knowing that I could very easily just hop on and play and be able to get up to a similar level as everyone else very quickly.

The server thrives most when there's actually some items in the economy, and I'm sure most people can agree that it isn't fun to be sat there for weeks on end trying to buy an item just to be able to contend with others.

SorIe wrote: Yeah, ontop of that, the suit odds probably need to be buffed from all cases (maybe except skull) to have more suits enter the economy. Booster updates also have to be put out more frequently to get these items in.