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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392731

Name - What is your in-game name?
EDF Enjoyer
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID?
STEAM_0:1:185627732
Staff Members Name - Who warned you?
TheYoku
but it was markus who made him actually warn me as i was getting a verbal first :)
(PM) TheYoku: Enjoyer [Admin Chat] (Super Admin) Markus: he requires an actual warning
Punishment Reason - What was the reason of the punishment(s)?
RDA/NLR
Server - Which server did this occur on?
SSRP
Story/Situation - What happened?
i arrested a new player for having a gun out and after that jack bushross pulled out a psg and killed me , i thought he was just having fun since he said in chat
(OOC) Jack Bushross: I am here for Redx's make a wish
i spawned and arrested him , he made an f1 later and claimed that new guy was his "friend" , i didn't try to argue much cuz i thought i was only getting a verbal from yoku because he said it during the sit as well as i didn't have any recents since ages
markus then tells him that I NEED a warning
(PM) TheYoku: Enjoyer [Admin Chat] (Super Admin) Markus: he requires an actual warning
i went then to ask the guy ( the new player that i arrested first ) if he knew who jack bushross was and if its his friend and he said it wasn't he said no and this is the proof for it

Extra Information - Anything you would find relevant to your punishments(s)?
also its not rda since he was wanted :3


(i only broke nlr to arrest jack because he rdmed me and i thought we were having fun)
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392732

you JUST got demoted + you already got a verbal recently
why would u get another???
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392733

You arrested a man after you just died, that is straight up NLR. You have already received verbal's recently, as per your last appeal. You KNOW the rules as you were JUST a staff member, you shouldn't need to get verbal's.

tldr; you just got a verbal, a warning is perfectly understandable
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392734

I will handle this later, If Markus isn't already.
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392735

Jawson wrote:
I will handle this later, If Markus isn't already.
Feel free, I have a feeling he would complain if I did
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392736

Markus wrote:
You arrested a man after you just died, that is straight up NLR. You have already received verbal's recently, as per your last appeal. You KNOW the rules as you were JUST a staff member, you shouldn't need to get verbal's.

tldr; you just got a verbal, a warning is perfectly understandable
i didn't get a single verbal recently what are you talking about ????????????????????
read my entire appeal ? you want me warned so badddd
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392737

Verbal warnings aren't required plus you even had one.
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392738

EDF Enjoyer wrote:
i didn't try to argue much cuz i thought i was only getting a verbal from yoku because he said it during the sit as well as i didn't have any recents since ages
This right here is why the warning shouldn't be removed at all. You have no regard to the rules if you think a verbal is any lesser than a normal punishment, verbals are only used out of generosity of a staff member and the history of the player in question given that you've been around long enough to know even the more in-depth rules verbals shouldn't be given out as freely as they are.
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392739

Sally wrote:
EDF Enjoyer wrote:
i didn't try to argue much cuz i thought i was only getting a verbal from yoku because he said it during the sit as well as i didn't have any recents since ages
This right here is why the warning shouldn't be removed at all. You have no regard to the rules if you think a verbal is any lesser than a normal punishment, verbals are only used out of generosity of a staff member and the history of the player in question given that you've been around long enough to know even the more in-depth rules verbals shouldn't be given out as freely as they are.
read the appeal
for people that dont want to read
i didn't try to prove that it was not really NLR because i only thought i was getting a verbal because uploading takes time :3
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Last Edit: 1 year 6 months ago by EDF Enjoyer.
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392740

What happened is that Jack bushross was trying to help the new player from being arrested and after that failed he shot you for arresting the new player (an endangered species on the server(must protect at all costs)), you can argue if the kill was allowed or not but in the end you are not to decide that fact, the admins decide that. Jamie has had a squeaky clean rap sheet for multiple years and therefore I believe he would not waste that beautiful rap sheet on a simple rdm warning.

Regarding the verbal warning part, from the info I received from multiple reliable sources you were verbally warned numerous times before this, therefor a standard warning being placed was the correct action. arguing this point is useless because the admin's word is final.

Best of luck

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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392741

why are you trying to appeal the warn, you were RECENTLY staff and you should know not to get warned anyway pal.
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[SSRP] Warn Appeal - EDF Enjoyer 1 year 6 months ago #1392742

After checking the logs, I've come to the conclusion that both users are in the wrong here - Jamie was a Citizen so didn't have a valid reason to kill you to "protect" (he was not a fellow gangster/gang-related job), but at the same time you did break NLR in order to arrest him afterwards.

Jamie's not been around much for a while, so I see no reason to punish him over something minor here, but you've supposedly recently received verbal warnings and, regardless of that, have recently been a staff member so should know better. I also noticed in the logs a lot of disrespectful behaviour from you towards other users, please ensure this does not continute.

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