TOPIC: [Deathrun] Punishment Appeal No.2

Name - What is your in-game name? ♪ Box³ ♪
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID? STEAM_0:0:147144834
Staff Members Name - Who warned you? XxmasterxX
Punishment Reason - What was the reason of the punishment(s)? Disrespect
Server - Which server did this occur on? Deathrun
Story/Situation - What happened? The story is as follows.
I died to a trap upon which I called the trap a bitch then Kai said something so I called him a bitch, at no point whatsoever, did I call Master a bitch furthermore at no point do I recall mentioning Master at all in anything I said, I have no evidence but that shouldn't be relevant the point at hand being I got punished for calling someone a "Bitch", I at no point throughout the couple hours I was on the server had a verbal for disrespect as I at no point disrespected anyone on the server, I had punishments on the server for using earrape taunts however I had absolutely no punishments prior to this for disrespect nor had I had any verbals prior to this for disrespect, I in no way intended to disrespect anyone who was on the server at the time, however, as I have supposedly caused someone to feel disrespected I apologize and hope you can forgive me for doing so and I shall be more careful in future not to disrespect yourself or anyone else on the server.

Extra Information - Anything you would find relevant to your punishments(s)? I am going to repeat this as I want this to be made very clear - I at no point last night aimed disrespect at any individual nor did I harass anyone, nor did I make any attempt to do anything even remotely harmful towards any players on the server, I played some loud taunts, I had some punishments for taunting, but I did not make any attempt to cause harm or disrespect towards anyone.

Time for the hard truth, If you are taking disrespect from bitch, I am sorry but you're going to have to get used to it because you will hear much worse whether it be on this community, on another community, on another game, or in real life.

Red & Nogtog can't handle I suppose.

Sorry you're only allowed to joke if 1. you are staff, 2. you are friends with staff

have a nice day

I'll allow someone else to handle because i just handled the first appeal and i don't want to seem like i just copied over what i said/ didn't make an effort to handle it separately

Edit: Nvm just saw i cant handle anyway which makes sense

nononono no bad word you naughty boy!

do you use chat or voice, if you use chat the logs should say it all

luke_ wrote:
I use a mixture unfortunately on this occasion it was voice.

Pathetic warn imo

Personally, i would never warn someone for calling me a bitch and i've been called much worse and shrugged it off, but that's irrelevant. At the end of the day, if master thinks that you were calling him a bitch and he finds that to be disrespectful to him then it's disrespect. Nothing will change from the first appeal unless he changes his mind and says he's ok with it.

Nogtog wrote:
Its not disrespect just because someone chooses to take offense from it. Box should only be warned if he was being malicious and directing harmful words towards other players. From what I am reading he did neither. I mentioned the ethos in the last post and will mention it here again, it is meant to protect players from being punished when all they need is a simple talking to. Since box came back to zarp a couple of months ago I have never seen him be malicious towards another player so I find it ridiculous that XXmasterXX would feel the need to warn him for disrespect when even the person he was joking around with didnt take offense.

Nogtog wrote:
Well, I suppose that's a gamble that I'll take because I'm not going to sit with a punishment because I called someone a bitch, that's just the pinnacle of pettiness.

orbadoc wrote:
indeed and staff members should be held to a higher standard. can't have a rule for one and not the other, feel like a cm or someone impartial should handle this tbf for the fairest outcome and they should also take into account the staff report.

orbadoc wrote: Pablo plays ear rape taunts constantly and then trys to provoke staff by saying shit like "Do you like this taunt? I got a taunt you are going to love! Do your ears hurt yet?" He did what he did on purpose to try and get a reaction out of a staff member and then recorded it anyway to make a demote request. These 2 situations are different and should be handled as such.

orbadoc wrote: Worse thing about is it was a group of admins picking on a little kid lol after one says ""whenever I saw pablo on the server I wanted to literally kill myself", another giggles like a little schoolgirl with a crush and says "Who doesn't though".

which is literally targeted harassment

Guess I'm handling!

orbadoc wrote: I can't even lie this is fully true tbh. Stephen's was just met with more of a support because it was a demote request and that type of thing isn't grounds for full on demotion. It's fucking hard to see where the line should be drawn because someone handling the appeal has to make a decision for someone else on whether what was said to them is disrespect. Honestly my mind is extremely divided and people have to understand how hard it is to come to a decision on something like this where one person feels disrespected and the other feels like it wasn't disrespectful.

orbadoc wrote: The point is that Master says that Boxy called him a bitch (after calling Kai one first) which Boxy says is not true. This is something that Master saw as disrespect, due mostly to how Boxy was acting prior to this (he had to be removed from the ts channel he was in because Master felt offended by what he was saying). There are no guidelines on what should be disrespectful and what shouldn't be and it's extremely hard to deal with because some people are ok with being called degenerate scum while others hate being called ugly on the internet. It's all extremely personal and other people won't be able to understand their reasoning because they think differently.

PZGrens wrote:
You weren't in the ts channel with me, nogtog, xxmastexx, hellsdevil, stephen, zoe, rose and george. It was a mixture of voice and chat.

IF anything i am the victim in this situation!!! I can confirm he did not call xxmasterxx a bitch and called me a bitch instead. He's not wrong by saying that and i take no offence from him. I am indeed Box's Bitch.

Please free my man from his punishments.

I also called him a bitch, just so you know.

dies to lava in mc, terrible!