orbadoc wrote: The point is that Master says that Boxy called him a bitch (after calling Kai one first) which Boxy says is not true. This is something that Master saw as disrespect, due mostly to how Boxy was acting prior to this (he had to be removed from the ts channel he was in because Master felt offended by what he was saying). There are no guidelines on what should be disrespectful and what shouldn't be and it's extremely hard to deal with because some people are ok with being called degenerate scum while others hate being called ugly on the internet. It's all extremely personal and other people won't be able to understand their reasoning because they think differently.

[quote="orbadoc" post=1316574][quote="Nogtog" post=1316572][quote="orbadoc" post=1316564][quote="Nogtog" post=1316559]Personally, i would never warn someone for calling me a bitch and i've been called much worse and shrugged it off, but that's irrelevant. At the end of the day, if master thinks that you were calling him a bitch and he finds that to be disrespectful to him then it's disrespect. Nothing will change from the first appeal unless he changes his mind and says he's ok with it.[/quote] Pablo took offence from being told something worse by a staff member, but his report was denied. How come staff members have to be ok with disrespect that wasnt even directed at them, but users dont have to be ok with disrespect that comes from staff?[/quote] I can't even lie this is fully true tbh. Stephen's was just met with more of a support because it was a demote request and that type of thing isn't grounds for full on demotion. It's fucking hard to see where the line should be drawn because someone handling the appeal has to make a decision for someone else on whether what was said to them is disrespect. Honestly my mind is extremely divided and people have to understand how hard it is to come to a decision on something like this where one person feels disrespected and the other feels like it wasn't disrespectful.[/quote] I understand, and I agree that Stephen didn't deserve a demotion, but everything else aside, does Boxy really deserve to get punished for calling someone a bitch? Especially when that wasn't even targeted at the person who warned them, and the target didn't even complain, and probably took it as a joke, which it was.[/quote] The point is that Master says that Boxy called him a bitch (after calling Kai one first) which Boxy says is not true. This is something that Master saw as disrespect, due mostly to how Boxy was acting prior to this (he had to be removed from the ts channel he was in because Master felt offended by what he was saying). There are no guidelines on what should be disrespectful and what shouldn't be and it's extremely hard to deal with because some people are ok with being called degenerate scum while others hate being called ugly on the internet. It's all extremely personal and other people won't be able to understand their reasoning because they think differently.