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TOPIC: [TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal

[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206421

Name - What is your in-game name? zombiekiller13k
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID ? : STEAM_0:0:121331908
Staff Members Name - Who warned you? squeeze
Punishment Reason - What was the reason of the punishment(s)? prop abuse
Server - Which server did this occur on? TTT, Server 1
Story/Situation so it was me and squeeze left and i was a t so i bought the newton launcher and shot a minecart at squeeze
Anything you would find relevant to your punishments(s)?

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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206425

I don't remember shooting a minecart at someone with a newton launcher to have been punishable. Especially when you're the only 2 on the server.	Vodka4Gaben Offline Diamond Boarder LeBron "King" James Posts: 3106 Thanks received: 1516 Karma: -83
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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206426

I think that u should need to start recording so u can get extra proof next time it will help u out a lot	KingUniverse Offline Senior Boarder Daddy Vankbros :3 Posts: 390 Thanks received: 71 Karma: -18
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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206427

props arent meant to be used that way, they're so glitchy that if you newton launch them at someone it will probably insta kill them which is pretty unfair	maddox Offline Gold Boarder Ian foot Posts: 2416 Thanks received: 1294 Karma: -12
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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206430

Maddox wrote: props arent meant to be used that way, they're so glitchy that if you newton launch them at someone it will probably insta kill them which is pretty unfair but it was the last 2 people alive	zombiekiller13k Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 94 Thanks received: 5 Karma: -24
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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206432

zombiekiller13k wrote: Maddox wrote: props arent meant to be used that way, they're so glitchy that if you newton launch them at someone it will probably insta kill them which is pretty unfair but it was the last 2 people alive thats irrelevant, the rules still apply no matter how many people are alive	maddox Offline Gold Boarder Ian foot Posts: 2416 Thanks received: 1294 Karma: -12
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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206434

Maddox wrote:

zombiekiller13k wrote:

Maddox wrote:

props arent meant to be used that way, they're so glitchy that if you newton launch them at someone it will probably insta kill them which is pretty unfair
:minussp:

but it was the last 2 people alive

thats irrelevant, the rules still apply no matter how many people are alive

isn't newton launcher a "prop manipulating weapon" like u can push people by shooting with it but still

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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206438

Slender Baboon wrote:

Maddox wrote:

zombiekiller13k wrote:

Maddox wrote:

props arent meant to be used that way, they're so glitchy that if you newton launch them at someone it will probably insta kill them which is pretty unfair
:minussp:

but it was the last 2 people alive

thats irrelevant, the rules still apply no matter how many people are alive

isn't newton launcher a "prop manipulating weapon" like u can push people by shooting with it but still

i dont think its classified as a prop manipulating weapon as it is meant to push players of cliffs etc but im not entirely sure to be honest

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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206440

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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206442

Maddox wrote:

Slender Baboon wrote:

Maddox wrote:

zombiekiller13k wrote:

Maddox wrote:

props arent meant to be used that way, they're so glitchy that if you newton launch them at someone it will probably insta kill them which is pretty unfair
:minussp:

but it was the last 2 people alive

thats irrelevant, the rules still apply no matter how many people are alive

isn't newton launcher a "prop manipulating weapon" like u can push people by shooting with it but still

i dont think its classified as a prop manipulating weapon as it is meant to push players of cliffs etc but im not entirely sure to be honest

If we go by that, isnt the magneto stick technically a "prop manipulating weapon" as well and yet if you pick up a prop with a magneto stick and throw it at someone its punishable. You can also just shoot a minecart with a shotgun and it has the same effect. Imo the only "prop manipulating weapon" on the server is the Poltergeist, because it is specifically designed for using a prop/corpse in order to actually use this weapon.

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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206443

TheRealNepgear wrote:

Maddox wrote:

Slender Baboon wrote:

Maddox wrote:

zombiekiller13k wrote:

Maddox wrote:

props arent meant to be used that way, they're so glitchy that if you newton launch them at someone it will probably insta kill them which is pretty unfair
:minussp:

but it was the last 2 people alive

thats irrelevant, the rules still apply no matter how many people are alive

isn't newton launcher a "prop manipulating weapon" like u can push people by shooting with it but still

i dont think its classified as a prop manipulating weapon as it is meant to push players of cliffs etc but im not entirely sure to be honest

If we go by that, isnt the magneto stick technically a "prop manipulating weapon" as well and yet if you pick up a prop with a magneto stick and throw it at someone its punishable. You can also just shoot a minecart with a shotgun and it has the same effect. Imo the only "prop manipulating weapon" on the server is the Poltergeist, because it is specifically designed for using a prop/corpse in order to actually use this weapon.

i mean it specifically says that killing and stuff isn't allowed with the magneto stick, and it also says that weapons other than the poltergeist "Void" the no prop killing rule, so other weapons are classified as "prop manipulating" as well. i guess that means that some weapons that can manipulate props get a pass on the rule, im just guessing newton voids it as well cus i've seen it used by staff like zombie did

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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206444

Slender Baboon wrote:

TheRealNepgear wrote:

Maddox wrote:

Slender Baboon wrote:

Maddox wrote:

zombiekiller13k wrote:

Maddox wrote:

props arent meant to be used that way, they're so glitchy that if you newton launch them at someone it will probably insta kill them which is pretty unfair
:minussp:

but it was the last 2 people alive

thats irrelevant, the rules still apply no matter how many people are alive

isn't newton launcher a "prop manipulating weapon" like u can push people by shooting with it but still

i dont think its classified as a prop manipulating weapon as it is meant to push players of cliffs etc but im not entirely sure to be honest

If we go by that, isnt the magneto stick technically a "prop manipulating weapon" as well and yet if you pick up a prop with a magneto stick and throw it at someone its punishable. You can also just shoot a minecart with a shotgun and it has the same effect. Imo the only "prop manipulating weapon" on the server is the Poltergeist, because it is specifically designed for using a prop/corpse in order to actually use this weapon.

i mean it specifically says that killing and stuff isn't allowed with the magneto stick, and it also says that weapons other than the poltergeist "Void" the no prop killing rule, so other weapons are classified as "prop manipulating" as well. i guess that means that some weapons that can manipulate props get a pass on the rule, im just guessing newton voids it as well cus i've seen it used by staff like zombie did

So zombie bassicly u were prop abusing becouse u cannot use the newton launcher for props becouse its meant to push players not props so i think we can deny this

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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206445

Slender Baboon wrote:

TheRealNepgear wrote:

Maddox wrote:

Slender Baboon wrote:

Maddox wrote:

zombiekiller13k wrote:

Maddox wrote:

props arent meant to be used that way, they're so glitchy that if you newton launch them at someone it will probably insta kill them which is pretty unfair
:minussp:

but it was the last 2 people alive

thats irrelevant, the rules still apply no matter how many people are alive

isn't newton launcher a "prop manipulating weapon" like u can push people by shooting with it but still

i dont think its classified as a prop manipulating weapon as it is meant to push players of cliffs etc but im not entirely sure to be honest

If we go by that, isnt the magneto stick technically a "prop manipulating weapon" as well and yet if you pick up a prop with a magneto stick and throw it at someone its punishable. You can also just shoot a minecart with a shotgun and it has the same effect. Imo the only "prop manipulating weapon" on the server is the Poltergeist, because it is specifically designed for using a prop/corpse in order to actually use this weapon.

i mean it specifically says that killing and stuff isn't allowed with the magneto stick, and it also says that weapons other than the poltergeist "Void" the no prop killing rule, so other weapons are classified as "prop manipulating" as well. i guess that means that some weapons that can manipulate props get a pass on the rule, im just guessing newton voids it as well cus i've seen it used by staff like zombie did

I rather think they added this for different weapons. I think they just did that, because if they would add another weapon like the poltergeist and they only said that the poltergeist is the only weapon that is allowed to be used that way they would need to rewrite the rules. I dont know for certain, because I dont think I was LT when they added that rule

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[TTT] zombiekiller13k's Punishment Appeal 4 years 7 months ago #1206452

Thank you for taking the time to make this appeal. The big debate here is if the newton launcher is a prop manipulating weapon or a weapon that just so happenes to be able to manipulate props, in much the same way you could shoot a minecart with any gun and it will move. I do think this needs to be discussed by the LT so a clarification can be made but in my opinion while i do think the intention behind the newton launcher is for it to push players not prop kill i also do not have much of an issue with it being allowed. When prop killing with a magneto stick its almost impossible to track down who did it but when a newton launcher is used we at least have the shot logs of them firing the launcher at the same second someone is killed by the world. Realistically this situation is very rare anyway but a clarification does need to be made.

As for this case after talking to the staff member who punished you we have agreed that the punishment will be removed. It was just the two of you left alive and the outcome would have not changed had you not used the newton launcher as he was busy handling reports at the time, a harpoon or any normal gun would have done the exact same. I will say however that until a clarification is made that no one should go around trying to prop kill with the newton launcher.
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