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TOPIC: [TTT] Demote Request - IEeatBlueCrayons
[TTT] Demote Request - IEeatBlueCrayons 7 years 9 months ago #1013560
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Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ][ Click to hide ] Jax wrote:
Miia wrote:
Jax wrote:
Miia wrote:
I don't know about you but when someone says "They have a knife", you know a traitor item i would say thats pretty much saying i should kill them on sight, but who knows maybe im the strange one. Again this does not change the fact that a KOS was still called, by saying he had a traitor weapon you are saying they are a traitor and should be killed on sight. We do not punish people for not verifying if a KOS is valid before killing the KOSed player, for all you know IEeatBlueCrayons was looking at the sky in that video heard mace mace say what he said and then killed daddy smurf for it, which he is allowed to do as daddy smurf was KOSed. This is why the karma system exists and IEeatBlueCrayons broke no rules.Jax wrote:
Miia wrote:
Show me the rule where it says i have to check a KOS is valid before i kill the KOSed player. With watching that fight happen you are given the following information, daddy is suspected of being a traitor, they are following mace mace and they have a knife. Where is the rule saying i need to verify they have a knife before i kill them? A false KOS is a KOS, no rules were broken by IEeatBlueCrayons for following it.Jax wrote:
This is both the fault of IEatBlueCrayons and the person calling the 'KOS' as IEatBlueCrayons watched the fight happen and saw no knife being pulled out and the person calling the 'KOS' called it falsely saying that he does. When the person who followed a false KOS is deemed equally as bad as the person who called the false KOS. What has TTT become. His intent clearly was not to RDM as he was mislead by a innocent. Im a little shocked that so many people seem to be more against IEeatBlueCrayons than the innocent that literally killed themself to try to get someone killed.There is a difference between watching the fight happen and the person saying that he has a knife than not watching the fight and the person saying he has a knife. Hence why i said both are in the wrong while yes the user was purposely doing this, ultimately RDM is still RDM and if IEatBlueCrayons didn't watch this fight happen then my view on this would be different however that is not the case. IEatBlueCrayons should be only told to be more careful and be more aware inside situations like these and the user should be punished for calling the KOS too. Because he randomly screamed it out when if he was to have a knife earlier and he saw it he would of said it then and there and not wait later on to say it later. You can see clearly in the video that he was not holding a knife. In his inventory he didn't even have a knife and with IEatBlueCrayons watching that fight it is obvious that he is not holding a knife. He did not exactly KOS him but instead he called out a knife meaning that he is KOS but over the fact that he was carrying a knife in which he was not and never did. So IEatBlueCrayons should of seen that and not acted upon that as the KOS was purely based upon the user carrying a knife in which he was not and it was visible by IEatBlueCrayons that he was not. The thing is IEatBlueCrayons saw this happen however if he didn't i wouldn't be saying what i'm saying now. He was KOSed because of holding a knife (In which he NEVER was) and IEatBlueCrayons saw this and then continued to act upon the KOS anyways regardless of him seeing the knife or not. I'm not saying KOSes need to be verified but i'm saying that if you see it all happening then you should know by what you see what is true and what is false and you know when to act upon KOSes and when to not. This 'KOS' in particular and the way it went down and how IEatBlueCrayons saw this happen is why some staff think that it is RDM and others do not because BOTH user and IEatBlueCrayons are in the wrong for 1:User calling out a fake KOS. And 2: IEatBlueCrayons acted upon this whilst seeing this all happening while the person who was KOS did not pull out a knife and was visible that he did not pull out a knife at all as shown in the video. There may not be correct ways to call a KOS but there are correct ways to USE a KOS and when to and when not to act upon them. As i mentioned in my previous reply there is nothing that shows that IEeatBlueCrayons knew he didn't have a knife. Yes his screen was pointing that way but that does not mean his eyes were focused on his hands the whole time meaning he would know with 100% certainty that the user had no knife. You are basing your whole argument against IEeatBlueCrayonson the assumption that he knew the user had no knife and killed them anyway. This is why we have the karma system, because a mistake can happen and it not be RDM or break any rules. |
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Edited 7 years 9 months ago by Miia.
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[TTT] Demote Request - IEeatBlueCrayons 7 years 9 months ago #1013568
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Miia wrote:
Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ][ Click to hide ] Jax wrote:
Miia wrote:
Jax wrote:
Miia wrote:
I don't know about you but when someone says "They have a knife", you know a traitor item i would say thats pretty much saying i should kill them on sight, but who knows maybe im the strange one. Again this does not change the fact that a KOS was still called, by saying he had a traitor weapon you are saying they are a traitor and should be killed on sight. We do not punish people for not verifying if a KOS is valid before killing the KOSed player, for all you know IEeatBlueCrayons was looking at the sky in that video heard mace mace say what he said and then killed daddy smurf for it, which he is allowed to do as daddy smurf was KOSed. This is why the karma system exists and IEeatBlueCrayons broke no rules.Jax wrote:
Miia wrote:
Show me the rule where it says i have to check a KOS is valid before i kill the KOSed player. With watching that fight happen you are given the following information, daddy is suspected of being a traitor, they are following mace mace and they have a knife. Where is the rule saying i need to verify they have a knife before i kill them? A false KOS is a KOS, no rules were broken by IEeatBlueCrayons for following it.Jax wrote:
This is both the fault of IEatBlueCrayons and the person calling the 'KOS' as IEatBlueCrayons watched the fight happen and saw no knife being pulled out and the person calling the 'KOS' called it falsely saying that he does. When the person who followed a false KOS is deemed equally as bad as the person who called the false KOS. What has TTT become. His intent clearly was not to RDM as he was mislead by a innocent. Im a little shocked that so many people seem to be more against IEeatBlueCrayons than the innocent that literally killed themself to try to get someone killed.There is a difference between watching the fight happen and the person saying that he has a knife than not watching the fight and the person saying he has a knife. Hence why i said both are in the wrong while yes the user was purposely doing this, ultimately RDM is still RDM and if IEatBlueCrayons didn't watch this fight happen then my view on this would be different however that is not the case. IEatBlueCrayons should be only told to be more careful and be more aware inside situations like these and the user should be punished for calling the KOS too. Because he randomly screamed it out when if he was to have a knife earlier and he saw it he would of said it then and there and not wait later on to say it later. You can see clearly in the video that he was not holding a knife. In his inventory he didn't even have a knife and with IEatBlueCrayons watching that fight it is obvious that he is not holding a knife. He did not exactly KOS him but instead he called out a knife meaning that he is KOS but over the fact that he was carrying a knife in which he was not and never did. So IEatBlueCrayons should of seen that and not acted upon that as the KOS was purely based upon the user carrying a knife in which he was not and it was visible by IEatBlueCrayons that he was not. The thing is IEatBlueCrayons saw this happen however if he didn't i wouldn't be saying what i'm saying now. He was KOSed because of holding a knife (In which he NEVER was) and IEatBlueCrayons saw this and then continued to act upon the KOS anyways regardless of him seeing the knife or not. I'm not saying KOSes need to be verified but i'm saying that if you see it all happening then you should know by what you see what is true and what is false and you know when to act upon KOSes and when to not. This 'KOS' in particular and the way it went down and how IEatBlueCrayons saw this happen is why some staff think that it is RDM and others do not because BOTH user and IEatBlueCrayons are in the wrong for 1:User calling out a fake KOS. And 2: IEatBlueCrayons acted upon this whilst seeing this all happening while the person who was KOS did not pull out a knife and was visible that he did not pull out a knife at all as shown in the video. There may not be correct ways to call a KOS but there are correct ways to USE a KOS and when to and when not to act upon them. As i mentioned in my previous reply there is nothing that shows that IEeatBlueCrayons knew he didn't have a knife. Yes his screen was pointing that way but that does not mean his eyes were focused on his hands the whole time meaning he would know with 100% certainty that the user had no knife. You are basing your whole argument against IEeatBlueCrayonson the assumption that he knew the user had no knife and killed them anyway. This is why we have the karma system, because a mistake can happen and it not be RDM or break any rules. I can't be bothered to continue this for another 6 pages u win. |
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Ranks I had: TTT Super admin x1, TTT Admin x5, Murder Admin x1, Prophunt Admin x1
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[TTT] Demote Request - IEeatBlueCrayons 7 years 9 months ago #1013580
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Any chance of wrapping this up?
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[TTT] Demote Request - IEeatBlueCrayons 7 years 9 months ago #1013581
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IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
Any chance of wrapping this up? I'll wrap this into Christmas paper or do you rather have New Year's paper? |
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[TTT] Demote Request - IEeatBlueCrayons 7 years 9 months ago #1013595
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Katje wrote:
IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
Any chance of wrapping this up? I'll wrap this into Christmas paper or do you rather have New Year's paper? Christmas paper would be nice, don't forget to make it blue. |
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The following user said Thank You: Katje
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[TTT] Demote Request - IEeatBlueCrayons 7 years 9 months ago #1013655
Hello ManOfLegendz, I have spoken to IEatBlueCrayons and I have established that whilst your point makes some sense, Mace Mace clearly shouts "He has a knife" and then kills himself. Him saying that makes you KOS as its a Traitor Weapon so that makes him KOSing you a valid kill upon you. This makes it a false KOS by Mace Mace, not a rulebreak by IEatBlueCrayons. He doesn't have to say your name due to you being the only person within close proximity that would be able to use a knife. Thank you for making this report! This has been 
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